40 year anniversary of Kent State Shootings

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dawgatUSM

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Never knew this, but Nick Saban was a freshman at Kent State that year. He's on Outside the Lines discussing the incident now...
 

Coach34

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and the early 1970's...it's almost hard to believe life was really like it was then...all the hippies, protests, races fighting, war in Vietnam, church bombings, assassinations, students getting shot...

just crazy
 

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Coach34 said:
it's almost hard to believe life was really like it was then...all the hippies, protests, races fighting, war in Vietnam, church bombings, assassinations, students getting shot...
My how times have changed.

Since all this is still goin on...i suppose the correctresponse would be the more things change, the more they stay the same.
 

SilentDog

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too bad they didn't have tasers then...they could have killed those kids with tasers and it would have been a lot less bloody.

/going to hell
 

CivilEngineerDog

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also, 2 students at Jackson State were also shot in 1970 by the Miss Hwy Patrol....just sayin
 

HammerOfTheDogs

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...by the SDS. There's even a report that one of the rioters might have fired a gun at the NG troops (perhaps with blanks) in order to provoke a violent response. The fact that, despite untrained Ohio National Guardsmen were trying to fight off violent students, only four were killed.
 

HammerOfTheDogs

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20 times the people, including women and children, were killed at Waco....and I bet Neil Young sabotaged Lynyrd Skynyrd's plane.
 

futaba.79

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by the Ohio National Guard in 13 seconds. Two 19 yr olds and Two 20 yr olds killed. Another kid left paralyzed. But go ahead and defend the ONG. I'd expect nothing less from you.
 

brantleyjones

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...the MS Highway Patrol <span style="font-weight: bold;">and</span> Jackson City Police emptied their weapons in to a women's dorm.

Far worse than f'ing with the Ohio Nat'l Guard.
 

RocketCityDawg

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After my graduation from MSU, we were trained to use sticks rather than bullets to quell civil disturbances, and that only as a last resort.

What happened at Kent State was an unfortunate abberation, and the fault lies on whomever in the chain of command gave the order to fire live rounds against defenseless unarmed students.

Duh, that's historical Germans perspective from me.
The students were exercizing their free speech, which I was sworn to protect and defend.

If I'd been there and seen Saban and known what he was to become, it would have been hard not to bust his chops with my stick.
Just kidding.
 

RocketCityDawg

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It's the 40th anniversary. Anno, the root of anniversary, means "year."

For the unclued, there is also no month-anniversary. Meaningless when you say that.
 

Chickamauga

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There is no mass protest movement against the wars we're fighting today, and there won't be unless middle-class and wealthy kids face a real threat of being sent to fight against their will.

Racial conflict is limited to overheated public discussions between people like Al Sharpton and Pat Buchanan.

As for assassinations, I'm not sure when the last one we had was. In 1968, by contrast, Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy were killed within months of each other.
 

HammerOfTheDogs

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...thought they were being shot at by somebody, it's surprising that more weren't killed. Because the SDS was able to get "martyrs", the US was forced to cut and run from their allies in Southeast Asia, resulting in millions slaughtered in the Killing Fields and almost as many fleeing for their lives.

To be saddened by the loss of millions of lives- you can expect no less from me.
 

AROB44

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And how long should we have stayed in that hell hole proping up a corrupt govt that was no better than the ones we were fighting?
 

HammerOfTheDogs

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South Korea is an economic powerhouse, while North Korea is a ******** where everybody is starving to death. If you remember, South Korea had some unsavory characters running it as well. However, because the US stuck with them, they have a much more stable government.

South Vietnam had some lousy leaders as well. However, they were Pro-American and we would've influenced their government the same way we influenced the South Koreans. As it is, we made a promise to the Vietnamese and Cambodians, and we reneged on that promise. To this day, there are many countries that are still wary of getting into an alliance with us.
 
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those first 2 million deaths did not show we were sufficiently dedicated to the cause. Is that what you are trying to argue?
 
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