Looking at the lower half of the 16-team South Bracket in 5A, it appears that Rochester's road to the semi-final will be only SLIGHTLY more difficult than it would have been in 4A. I only say this because I can't see anyone in their bracket of 8 beating them, although the teams they will beat to get to the semi-final will be somewhat more competitive than the teams the Rockets would have played in 4A. Any HONEST observer will admit that they will be favored over any of the other 7 teams in their bracket. And if, by some SLIM chance, SHG happens to reach the quarterfinal, young Leonard will put another beating on his daddy the way he did in the regular season. I believe Morris would be their most competitive opponent out of the 7 teams.
5A South - Rochester
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If Rochester makes it to the semi’s and plays at home, I would favor them over anyone in the South bracket. 25+ home playoff wins in a row.
Wait, man! Let me do the thing I'm good at...I know I've been gone for two seasons...but let me play this out, damn it!
Rochester already lost by 30 points in the regular season.
There is no team that could even come close to doing that to JCA.
Rochester does not match up with them. You got no chance. Welcome to 5A.
There is no team that could even come close to doing that to JCA.
Rochester does not match up with them. You got no chance. Welcome to 5A.
Run the ball and play super physical with them. Morris had them in 2017 and let them off the hook. They are extremely well coached offensively and I admire them, but play physical.
Read my post, but SLOW this time. Did I say anything about the semifinal except for them getting there?
Rocket Booster Stadium is where 4A teams go to die. 5A teams, at least until the semifinals (here that Wassup, UNTIL THE SEMIFINALS), will experience the same fate.
Glad we both understand Rochester is done when they meet JCA.
Where did I state that? Somehow, you and the word "understand" just don't go together. And don't try to assume that Rochester will lose to JCA just because you guys did last year.
If Rochester waltzes to the semis...
No, it's when Rochester waltzes to the semis!! Coach Leonard will present his team with the challenge of facing 5A teams for the first time in the postseason, and he will be even sharper in his game preparation. Your comment seems to imply some sort of doubt. Fair enough, but you will have to name the team which is going to prevent them from "waltzing". Come on, no fudging now - NAME IT!!!!!!!!!!!
Now, I’m usually not one to do the whole “Whoa look at the grammar on this guy!” routine, but when you pull out the bold, the ALL CAPS, and you’re using parenthesis (albeit correctly
), I can’t help but throw myself into the ring.It’s “Hear” jabroni.
Every year there is a thread about how team X is going to smoke Rochester and it never seems to happen, they are very good and have an outstanding scheme. Unless JCA has figured out how to stop a passing team this game goes to the wire and I like Rochester’s chances.
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Now, I’m usually not one to do the whole “Whoa look at the grammar on this guy!” routine, but when you pull out the bold, the ALL CAPS, and you’re using parenthesis (albeit correctly
It’s “Hear” jabroni.
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Rochester is a good team and very well could beat JCA in a (hypothetical) semi matchup. That said, I don’t think it’s fair to continue the narrative of “unless JC can finally defend against the pass.”
The last few years, JC has dropped below their accustomed level as a juggernaut program (which they had even when they couldn’t defend the pass). But the 2018 and 2019 versions of the Hilltoppers have had some of the best secondaries in school history. They may lose to a spread team like Rochester. But it will NOT be because it is the “same old” Hilltoppers from the early 2010s that looked inept against an adequate passing team with a semi mobile quarterback.
the 2018 Hilltoppers struggled to stop Montini on the ground but defeated them in the title game largely in the backs of a huge INT by a safety and the blanket coverage 3 plays in a row of a corner on a goal line stand to end the title game.
JC is not what they were in 2004, 2007, or even 2013. But in one very important area they are actually better than they have been in decades, and that area is athleticism and execution in the defensive backfield.
ClownBaby, I know you're trying to be reasonable with some of the less educated on this site when it comes to the Rockets, but after awhile it becomes a wasted effort. I guess they'll just have to have it demonstrated to them.
Dude, you’re a classic wagon hitcher. Two years ago you were Samson Evan’s Drew Rosenhaus and now you’re Derek Leonard’s sugar daddy.
Very good and informed assessment of this year's Hillmen team, and acknowledgement of the possibility that Rochester could beat JCA in a semifinal matchup. Perhaps you could let Wassup know.
I see the post Bears game booze is flowing on this thread. Admittedly, none of the drivel seems to be coming from the JCA faithful.
1) I am glad to see Rochester up in 5A. They play 5A/6A all year. They don’t usually boat race the final anyway, but they should get a good test in the semis.
2) I wouldn’t be so quick to declare JCA as locks in the hypothetical semifinal. If this years iteration of ICCP can beat JCA then I’d give Rochester a decent chance.
1) I am glad to see Rochester up in 5A. They play 5A/6A all year. They don’t usually boat race the final anyway, but they should get a good test in the semis.
2) I wouldn’t be so quick to declare JCA as locks in the hypothetical semifinal. If this years iteration of ICCP can beat JCA then I’d give Rochester a decent chance.
He wasn't correcting your spelling, he was correcting your grammar. This missed, wildly.
Search function only goes back to 12/2018 so its kinda tough to post but Althoff, Phillips, Highland and few other were all the teams that were going to handle Rochester and more often then not they have fallen on their face. People on this board hate Rochester so they tend to discount how good they really are they, their coaching staff is second to none and their in game adjustments are outstanding. JCA may very well beat them but the people writing them off in this thread are stupid.
Spot on as usual, JCHillmen. I will say, though, in the next few years (2020 & 2021) JCA has a chance to approach the levels of some of their teams from the early to mid 2000's. Their current Frosh to Junior talent level is very, very good.
I have never really felt the hate for Rochester on this board. If anything, I would say most people on this board give very little thought to Rochester.
I've noticed that too. Not sure why he's jumped off the ESL bandwagon. I thought that was this year's team (before they ended up in 6A). He's like a fickle high school girl throwing his allegiance towards the latest boy band.
IMO...Most people on here see a JCA / Rochester semi final game between 2 very good teams and great coaching staffs (hard to disagree with). But I think one of the greatest challenges facing these 2 outstanding coaching staffs is this: keeping 50+ excited teenagers focused on getting there first.
Both of these 2 very good programs must win 3 consecutive playoff games against good teams / programs, long before this game can materialize.
Both of these 2 very good programs must win 3 consecutive playoff games against good teams / programs, long before this game can materialize.
Anyone who has attended a home game knows what the officials do to any quality visiting opponent. Typically in the playoffs. Talk about home field advantage. They've also been said to have IHSA ties which get the right officials assigned. All hearsay. I get it. But the calls I've seen go against their opponents are legendary. That's why the boaster specified "at home". Knows of what he speaks.
I haven’t seen the frosh, but the current level of talent in the younger age groups does seem quite high. Love the current juniors playing on varsity this year and Anderson and some sophs can be scary good in a few years. Skill position talent is clear. Curious to see how like play develops.
but yes I can see them being quite dominant at times the next few years if everything comes together.
1. I don't hate Rochester, and few do. The complaints about them were for not petitioning up
2. Their coaching staff is definitely top 10, maybe 5, in the state
3. Who's writing them off?
This, i think once you win 25 plus games in a row etc ... and clearly do it with some interesting talent, a petition up seems, well, i've never thought it was a team's job to do the work of the ihsa when it comes to classes, but you know....25 plus games.
Rochester will get to the semis, i'm certain. In the north side of the bracket, i would not be so certain...I'm not certain about JCA, as we are basically a sophomore team this season. But that seems suitable in the lowly 5a south. Hope it pans out, honestly, for Rochester's sake. They deserve the right to finally get some competition.