60 Yard field for football.. 40 Yards for Sugarland....
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Gonna be a hell of a football game. 60 yards? I heard 90 yards for football.
They'll have to inflate the numbers for the media
They'll have to inflate the numbers for the media
all this whining and bitching isn't going to do anything. the school's like to make their goal of fans and will make money for the school. nothing at all wrong with that.
I come to a message board and a beauty salon breaks out. I even got involved once. The bitching is just out of control.
just to barely break even on the deal. I think Stricklin has done a very good job for us and my initial reaction to the Sugarland concert was that it was a great idea, even though I personally can't stand Sugarland. But the more I heard from people pissed off that theywould have to pay $100 to take their family to the game and a concert that they had no desire to see, I realized I was wrong. It's a bad idea. And no, bitching and whining about it isn't going to do anything. But people have a right to ***** and whine when they're pissed off. Keeping quiet about it isn't going to do anything either.</p>
It's doing so much good on a message board. Don't have a problem with people being upset or voicing their opinion but it's doing no 17ing good here. Email him...tweet him...walk up to him at the baseball game tonight. Any of those would be better than thread after thread here.
because its probably a cheaper ticket than you could get to most any of their normal concerts. If you DON'T like Sugarland its a horrible deal to have to pay $100 plus bucks (family of 4) to watch a glorified practice that won't even be on a full length field. Will be interested to see how many folks just show up for the concert that have no interest in even watching the MSU spring game. Still thinking the walk up crowd will be significant IF the weather is decent which is IFFY at this point.
<div>I still like the idea. If it flops, it flops. I'm just glad we had the balls to try something different. Whether you like it or not, there are going to be people at this spring game who never would have stepped foot on MSU's campus. So long as they go home with a favorable impression, then it is a success.</div><div>
</div><div>Not surprised at the bitching, though. This is Mississippi. Where change is considered the devil's magic.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span></div>
</div><div>Not surprised at the bitching, though. This is Mississippi. Where change is considered the devil's magic.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span></div>
I like the fact that Stricklin is innovative. He's had a lot of great ideas that have generated great publicity and made money. I thought this was a great idea when I first heard it. But it's not. Sure there will be some people at the spring game who would have never stepped foot on MSU's campus otherwise.Most of them won't step foot on campus again. And virtually none of them are going to decide to become an MSU fan and buy football tickets.</p>
we won't get any new fans out of the deal. I would guess that of those that come just for the show, a few hundred will be high school age. If just 15 or 20 of these kids pick State because of the experience, then Stricklin's idea pays off. I'd be willing to bet that happens.
I don't like the idea, but what I want and what's for the good of MSU don't always match up.
I don't like the idea, but what I want and what's for the good of MSU don't always match up.
And if these fans are truly "diehard" then we're not going to lose their support. The upside is we gain support from some high schooler or sidewalk Alabama/Ole Miss/LSU fans because they came to campus, had an awesome time and thought it was a beautiful place. <div>
</div><div>My post wasn't directed at you as much as the "diehard" fans who refuse to see this for what it is - a chance to broaden the exposure of MSU athletics to someone other than the "diehard" fans. The diehard fans are gonna be there no matter what. Pissed off or not. If not, they're not really diehard. </div>
</div><div>My post wasn't directed at you as much as the "diehard" fans who refuse to see this for what it is - a chance to broaden the exposure of MSU athletics to someone other than the "diehard" fans. The diehard fans are gonna be there no matter what. Pissed off or not. If not, they're not really diehard. </div>
I really hope the program doesn't develop that attitude. I attend most MSU home football games. I watch nearly every MSU game of most sports that's on TV. The university gets a good bit of money from those things already, but I am NOT an ATM for the university. There is a limit to how much i will spend on MSU athletics, because every dollar i give is a dollar that one day will not provide for my kids. And if the program starts treating me as persona non grata because of it, then it will lose the business i already give it. And that would be a mistake, because there's a hell of a lot more fans like me, than fans like you.
I just saw the tweet pic. Yeah with the sbd it does eat up most of field. I can't believe they didn't fix that for the game...oh well, it is what it is
But the "stage" itself is just in the endzone.
But the "stage" itself is just in the endzone.
I, like you, love my university. I spent 4 wonderful years there and want to see it succeed in everything it does. That includes athletics, academics, fundraising and growing the largest fanbase in the state. I don't think that each of these things should be mutually exclusive. This is a way to branch out to new fans. It is not intended to be an affront to loyal fans like you. I hope you had the opportunity to attend one of the freescrimmages previously held in spring practice.
My point is we are losing almost half the football field for a damn country band. It's supposed to be a spring football game, not a ****** concert.
I did not complain about the cost of the tickets and never will for a sporting event.
I did not complain about the cost of the tickets and never will for a sporting event.
...I don't have a problem with the concert thing. I don't personally like it, because i don't like Sugarland, but i understand the attempt. And while i loved the free scrimmages, i understand charging for it, as hosting 20,000 for a scrimmage has significant costs for the university. I may even attend Saturday, events permitting. But I do hope the AD learns from the attempt. I won't ***** for a first attempt having some problems, that happens in anything. For the future, i would suggestdiscounts for those with kids, or kids under## get in free, etc. I would suggest finding a combo event that does not detract from the scrimmage, and if that means no concert because it would shorten the field, then drop the concert idea.
I don't take the concert idea as an affront. I take as an affront the attitude that those that don't want to spend $150 on a scrimmage aren't 'true fans'. Hell, 3/4 of those that come to home games don't come to FREE SBW scrimmages.
I don't take the concert idea as an affront. I take as an affront the attitude that those that don't want to spend $150 on a scrimmage aren't 'true fans'. Hell, 3/4 of those that come to home games don't come to FREE SBW scrimmages.
this isn't about damn football. If you wanted to see football you should have came to the scrimmage yesterday. This is a Sugarland concert for $25. This is MSU Athletic Department branching out to try and promote their current product and brand to a different audience. This is to have a huge *** event so recruits and families will want to come to our campus to see a concert and experience a football practice.
how many people are now NOT coming because of the cost versus those who are coming because of Sugarland?<div>
</div><div>Stadiums aren't built for free. I'm notinsinuatingyou are obligated to tithe to a university, but you get my point. Some people act like its their God given RIGHT to attend SBW for free. It's been aprivilege, but now there is a new guard. I don't want to pay money to see the game either, but 17 it, I will because I love MSU football. If ticket prices magically tripled, I'd make arrangements. People just need to learn to budget.</div><div>
</div><div>Honestly, they should have done a weekend pass for $30 that got you into the concert, GA at all the baseball games, and the spring game.</div>
</div><div>Stadiums aren't built for free. I'm notinsinuatingyou are obligated to tithe to a university, but you get my point. Some people act like its their God given RIGHT to attend SBW for free. It's been aprivilege, but now there is a new guard. I don't want to pay money to see the game either, but 17 it, I will because I love MSU football. If ticket prices magically tripled, I'd make arrangements. People just need to learn to budget.</div><div>
</div><div>Honestly, they should have done a weekend pass for $30 that got you into the concert, GA at all the baseball games, and the spring game.</div>
First of all, the shortened field is not new information. It has been known for months. How many 60+ yard TD's have you seen at the spring game anyway? I can't remember one in the last 10 years. If you know what you are looking at, 60 yards is plenty of room to be able to see what the hell we look like at this point. Also, do you not think Mullen had any say so in all of this?
Also, the football game is only a part of this weekend. Until Mullen starting pushing this spring game, most people came for the baseball series, and other FREE events going on all weekend, and never came to the football game because they were too busy bitching about how it was a glorified practice and boring.
As for your 15,000 comment, we'll see what the final number is for the concert. I can't wait for the weekend. It's going to be a damn good time whether there is a concert or not with a band I don't like playing or not.
Lastly, for the folks bitching about $25. Let's say you have a family of 4, so that's $100. Hell, let's include your gas $ at another $100. That's $200 total. This weekend has been known about since Septmber I believe. That means if you put back $5 a week since then, you're in.
If you don't like it, don't 17ing come. Who will miss you? My goodness, the level oif ***** that roams this board is sickening.
Also, the football game is only a part of this weekend. Until Mullen starting pushing this spring game, most people came for the baseball series, and other FREE events going on all weekend, and never came to the football game because they were too busy bitching about how it was a glorified practice and boring.
As for your 15,000 comment, we'll see what the final number is for the concert. I can't wait for the weekend. It's going to be a damn good time whether there is a concert or not with a band I don't like playing or not.
Lastly, for the folks bitching about $25. Let's say you have a family of 4, so that's $100. Hell, let's include your gas $ at another $100. That's $200 total. This weekend has been known about since Septmber I believe. That means if you put back $5 a week since then, you're in.
If you don't like it, don't 17ing come. Who will miss you? My goodness, the level oif ***** that roams this board is sickening.
well, there's also not a God given right for there to be a way to have a SBW scrimmage w/ 15,000 fans that doesn't lose money, is there? i think you're missing that there's a difference between it not being free, and it being overpriced.
you could look at is as a dang miracle that we can get so many people to come to Starkville for essentially a random spring weekend, and if we 17 with it we may kill it.
i do like that weekend pass idea though. would work better with better baseball times though.
i'd also suggest a concert at the Hump, with tickets to spring game at $5 or $10 (demand/attendance dependent), and concert tix whatever, with a combo ticket discount. or a scrimmage, baseball, hump concert back-to-back-to-back, so you can just walk over from the baseball game.
you could look at is as a dang miracle that we can get so many people to come to Starkville for essentially a random spring weekend, and if we 17 with it we may kill it.
i do like that weekend pass idea though. would work better with better baseball times though.
i'd also suggest a concert at the Hump, with tickets to spring game at $5 or $10 (demand/attendance dependent), and concert tix whatever, with a combo ticket discount. or a scrimmage, baseball, hump concert back-to-back-to-back, so you can just walk over from the baseball game.
The $30 or $50 weekend pass would be a great idea.
I think it was a good idea to try this and I salute them for thinking outside of the box. I think in the future they need to have a way to seperate the football game and the concert. I am planning on going to the concert, but I will be skipping the football game. I have no interest in getting there at 5pm to watch 2 hours of a practice, sit there another 30 minutes while they get ready for the show, and then sit there 2 hours watching the concert.If I could come and watch the first half of the game and then come back in for the concert that would be great, but as I understand it that is not an option. If you are taking kids to the concert there is no way I would want to keep up with them in there for 5 or 6 hours.
Again, great idea and I am glad we are trying, I just hope we learn from the pains of this year.
I think it was a good idea to try this and I salute them for thinking outside of the box. I think in the future they need to have a way to seperate the football game and the concert. I am planning on going to the concert, but I will be skipping the football game. I have no interest in getting there at 5pm to watch 2 hours of a practice, sit there another 30 minutes while they get ready for the show, and then sit there 2 hours watching the concert.If I could come and watch the first half of the game and then come back in for the concert that would be great, but as I understand it that is not an option. If you are taking kids to the concert there is no way I would want to keep up with them in there for 5 or 6 hours.
Again, great idea and I am glad we are trying, I just hope we learn from the pains of this year.
Most of you guys first mistake is not understanding the Sports business. Every Sport Business program in the country PREACHES that to grow your fan base, and increase your revenue, you must appeal to the fans sitting on the fence, not the die hard fan. The truth is that this message board would be a terrible place for Scott to get opinions on this issue because everyone on here is a die hard fan. You wouldn't be posting and reading this message board everyday unless you were. Due to that, no matter how good or bad this concert/football thing goes, you will be in the stands and emotionally connected come football season. This concert isn't for you! It is for the fence sitters, the people with no allegiances, and the first time people on campus. It is a good business decision. However, because you are die hard fans, you refuse to see that side.
Music Maker concerts have always had many sponsors, but that revenue didn't come close to covering the band.
i guess if the stadium is covered in Regions banners etc., then it's true.
i guess if the stadium is covered in Regions banners etc., then it's true.
I was just saying that Sugarland is getting 40 yards of the field for the Spring Football Game, that really doesn't make it a football game, now does it.
Where did I blame Mullen? I blame our AD/High School Cheerleader for this fiasco..
If you don't like my post, don't read it or reply to it...
Where did I blame Mullen? I blame our AD/High School Cheerleader for this fiasco..
If you don't like my post, don't read it or reply to it...
I didn't say you blamed Mullen. Just pointing out I feel certain he had some say so in the length of the field.Also, you started the thread, and my reply was to all the bitches in the thread, not just you. However, it appears you took it personally, and for that I am glad.
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