8 coaches on hot seat....check out number 8

57stratdawg

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I think they're basically saying "Look Dan, your expectations are 8+ wins this year. Lets not shy away from that if you fail to meet them at the end of the season".
 
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WayboDawg

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For Mullen to stay out of hot water, he needs at least 8 regular season wins. 1 of those wins needs to come against a strong SEC opponent like Alabama, LSU, Texas A&M, or Auburn. A combination of an Egg Bowl loss and less than 8 wins won't be good for job security.
 

Oxford Andrew

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Firing Mullen, even after a bowl-less season, would be Cutcliffe-like.

I'm not saying it would be the wrong decision, I'm saying you'd be crucified in the media and getting the next coach could be harder than it should be.
 

msstatelp1

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Even if he doesn't win at least 8, does anyone really think he wouldn't get one more year at a minimum? I'd tend to believe that next year would be his "hot seat" year in that scenario.
 

Dawgzilla

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That's pretty absurd. They go out of their way to say that Mullen could be on the hot seat IF "things go horribly wrong and the bottom falls out...." Duh, couldn't you say that about 95% of the coaches out there? Very few coaches are so secure in their job position that they could survive a truly disastrous season. Only those who have been very successful (like Saban), or those who are just starting out at a new venue (like Strong) will be given a pass if "things go horribly wrong".

Even then, if things go horribly wrong this season, I only see that as moving Mullen to the hot seat. He had have to have an unimaginably bad disastrous season to get fired this year....like 0-8 in the SEC and a loss to USM.
 

AHSDawg

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They describe exactly how he CANNOT be on the hotseat. Hot seat is basically a "you better have a good year or you are gone". Mullen is incredibly far from that. We expect a good year so how can our coach be on the hot seat? None of the other coaches listed are, in any way, expecting a good year. Mostly because of the **** that got them on the hot seat. They are now reaping those fruits. Mullen is reaping the rewards of putting in the work. Just dumb. By that rationale, Saban should top the list. He is on a hot seat if he doesn't win the NC.
 

Dawg4ever49

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It's absurd to think he is on the hot seat. If Dan is, then every coach is on the hot seat. If anyone should be on the hot seat then Freezer should be on it since they have list 4 of 5 Egg Bowls. After this season I hope its five loses of last six.
 

BiscuitEater

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So, when did Barrett Sallee start writing for Fox?

Seriously, 'whoever' wrote this simply doesn't have a single clue about Mississippi State Football history.

If anyone wants to see a REAL website dedicated to determining Coaches 'relative' hot seats, go to ... http://www.coacheshotseat.com/CoachesHotSeatRanking.htm

Here is how they rank the SEC coaches ... Mullen is #75, ranked 8th 'hottest is the SEC.


1Will MuschampFlorida
5Bret BielemaArkansas
14Nick SabanAlabama
15Mark StoopsKentucky
36Butch JonesTennessee
47Mark RichtGeorgia
70Hugh FreezeMississippi
75Dan Mullen Mississippi State
101Kevin SumlinTexas A&M
105Gary PinkelMissouri
110Derek MasonVanderbilt
111Gus MalzahnAuburn
112Steve SpurrierSouth Carolina
119Les Miles LSU

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Dawgzilla

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They describe exactly how he CANNOT be on the hotseat. Hot seat is basically a "you better have a good year or you are gone". Mullen is incredibly far from that. We expect a good year so how can our coach be on the hot seat? None of the other coaches listed are, in any way, expecting a good year. Mostly because of the **** that got them on the hot seat. They are now reaping those fruits. Mullen is reaping the rewards of putting in the work. Just dumb. By that rationale, Saban should top the list. He is on a hot seat if he doesn't win the NC.

They should have listed Malzahn instead of Mullen. I mean, Auburn has already shown that "if things go horribly wrong" they will not hesitate to fire a championship coach. Meanwhile, MSU had developed a track record of hanging on to losing coaches for too long.
 

57stratdawg

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To me, Les Miles is the guy that needs to watch out. If they win less than 9 games this year, they're really going to be pissed at him. I'm not sure they get that many wins this year.
 

Sandman.sixpack

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Dawg4ever49..... Freezer is 1-1 in the Egg Bowl. One blowout win and one overtime loss. Do you really think he should be on the hot seat because Nutt lost his last three Egg Bowls? Makes a lot of sense! lol
IMO.... neither Dan nor Freezer should be on the hot seat. Both have done very well.
 

johnson86-1

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Muschamp is gone before 2015.

The schedule is going to make it too hard for him. Alabama and LSU from the West and then FSU out of conference. Barring a collapse from one of them, that's basically 3 losses. Seems likely he'll drop two of USCe, Mizou, UGA, and UT. I'm assuming 7-5 gets him a pink slip.
 

AHSDawg

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exactly right. We are far from the throw out the dishes with the dishwater mentality. Almost every other SEC school resembles that much moreso than us.
 

natchezdawg

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Saban is higher on the hot seat ranking than...

Pelini? Higher than Kevin Wilson, who is 10-26?

How is Saban even in the Top 100?

Sell crazy someplace else....
 

The Peeper

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Check out this quote:

Brian Kelly went 12-1 in 2012 and had a chance to win a national title he made less money from Notre Dame than Charlie Weis did while going 1-11 at Kansas (and let's not forget that Kansas paid $2.5 million that same year).

He will be paid by the NBC Irish through 2015 season according to the same article...........
 
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I am surprised that he has survived this long. They lost to GA Southern last year. GA17Southern! I do not care how many injuries you have. Florida's cheerleaders should be able to beat GA Southern.
 

Shamoan

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these journalists crack me up. mullen seems to be on the eternal hot seat and all he has done for us is make history. the man has his flaws, but its starting to get ridiculous.
 

stinkfoot

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Flip Stoops and Butch Jones based on their respective fan bases....

Seriously, 'whoever' wrote this simply doesn't have a single clue about Mississippi State Football history.

If anyone wants to see a REAL website dedicated to determining Coaches 'relative' hot seats, go to ... http://www.coacheshotseat.com/CoachesHotSeatRanking.htm

Here is how they rank the SEC coaches ... Mullen is #75, ranked 8th 'hottest is the SEC.


1Will MuschampFlorida
5Bret BielemaArkansas
14Nick SabanAlabama
15Mark StoopsKentucky
36Butch JonesTennessee
47Mark RichtGeorgia
70Hugh FreezeMississippi
75Dan Mullen Mississippi State
101Kevin SumlinTexas A&M
105Gary PinkelMissouri
110Derek MasonVanderbilt
111Gus MalzahnAuburn
112Steve SpurrierSouth Carolina
119Les MilesLSU

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w/l history of the schools. At some point, they just need to end the list. Neither Freeze nor Mullen belong on it and whoever put Saban at 14 is an idiot. Miles is not the safest SEC coach, and I suspect some real rumblings start this year. I think its more likely than not that one of the MS schools knocks him off and they won't like that in BR.
 

patdog

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Wow. Fox is completely clueless when it comes to college sports, as usual.
 

Arloguthrie

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You had a good run Hud. For a few months there way back in September - November 2013 you were a hero to MSU fans, a True Maroon savior just biding your time, waiting to return and rescue them from their bumbling idiot of a head coach. "Fire Mullen! Hire Hud!" they screamed in near unison. But no more.

"Hud?" they ask. "Name sounds familiar but I can't place it. A decent coach perhaps, but no Dan Mullen. . . . Hot seat? Mullen? Now what in the world would give you that idea? Preposterous."
 

GTAdawg

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I was never on that wagon, though there were a vast majority clamoring for that move.
 

Sack N City

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Classic sports writers during the slow time of the year.

Classic sports writers during the slow time of the year.

They just throw out bait in order to get people riled up so they will have some people respond. State’s record next year will be 7-5, at a minimum. The probable record is 8-4. Record with a lot of luck 10-2.

Sure wins are S. Miss, UAB, S. Alabama, and Ten-Martin. Almost sure wins are Kentucky, Arkansas and Vandy (Starkville) . Toss up games are Texas A & M (Starkville) and Ole Miss . Probable losses are Alabama, Auburn and LSU .
 

Dawg4ever49

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Understand that Freezer is 1-1, but they are 1-5, and if they go 1-6, or 1-7, Freezer would be on the hot seat. He would possibly be 1-2, or 1-3 and in trouble.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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Saban is just there as a conversation starter

I think, just to see if you can fog a mirror.


Fla. and Ga both had a horrendous number of injuries last year.
 

Dawg1976

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Yep. The same arguments for keeping Bury will be used here. Hopefully we win 8 and don't have to hear it.
 

tuku 2

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Really....

You get to choose the timeline......? I think Mullen is a damn good coach, but some of the threads started during a "BYE-WEEK".... Sheeesh.... Okay, Fire Him! Chris Jones has a sick grandmother in Oxford and needs to transfer! (pleasepleaseplease7poundbabyjesus)
 

johnson86-1

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You had a good run Hud. For a few months there way back in September - November 2013 you were a hero to MSU fans, a True Maroon savior just biding your time, waiting to return and rescue them from their bumbling idiot of a head coach. "Fire Mullen! Hire Hud!" they screamed in near unison. But no more.

"Hud?" they ask. "Name sounds familiar but I can't place it. A decent coach perhaps, but no Dan Mullen. . . . Hot seat? Mullen? Now what in the world would give you that idea? Preposterous."

Just shows you how thin the line is in SEC football. Had our true freshman qb not turned out to be a very good game manager, Mullen would need to win 8 this year to cool his seat at all and possibly could lose it at 6-6.

As it is, he'd probably lose a ton of support if he went 6-6 this year, but he wouldn't lose his job unless he completely lost control of the team in an embarrassing manner (think fighitng in the stands or legal issues with him or his staff, or the players if they are well beyond the normal incidents that occur in major college football) while winning 4 games or less.
 

Optimus Prime 4

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The egg bowl is not what's important, sorry

But taking a team that was 2-10 to six, then seven wins is what's important. If he wins 8 then 9, he can be 1-3 and on an ice cold seat.
 

was21

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my point: what does "horribly wrong" mean? Where did the writer of the article graduate? If he did
 

PBRME

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You would think that would be common sense, but look at our fans wanting to fire Dan after the best run we've had in 12 years.