82, Who said this? "A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a 1000 times becomes the truth"

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And the goal line changes again.

Never for me. I have always been skeptical of man-made global warming. But it is definitely warmer than it was when I was a kid in Weirton back in the 70s.

On a serious note, we have two much bigger problems on this earth that everybody ignores. The first is population growth and the second is clean, fresh water. Why the global warming folks refuse to acknowledge the surge in global population as a potential cause for warming is crazy to me. The earth's population could grow by 40% by 2050. Why is this not an issue? More people means more electrical generation, cars, food, waste, resource consumption. Water is already scarce in many parts of the world and we hardly throw resources to either issue. Shows me that the agenda isn't saving the world when it comes to global warming.
 

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Never for me. I have always been skeptical of man-made global warming. But it is definitely warmer than it was when I was a kid in Weirton back in the 70s.

On a serious note, we have two much bigger problems on this earth that everybody ignores. The first is population growth and the second is clean, fresh water. Why the global warming folks refuse to acknowledge the surge in global population as a potential cause for warming is crazy to me. The earth's population could grow by 40% by 2050. Why is this not an issue? More people means more electrical generation, cars, food, waste, resource consumption. Water is already scarce in many parts of the world and we hardly throw resources to either issue. Shows me that the agenda isn't saving the world when it comes to global warming.

I grew up in Bridgeport and can't tell any difference.

Averaged over all land and ocean surfaces, temperatures warmed roughly 1.53 degrees Fahrenheit (0.85 degrees Celsius) from 1880 to 2012, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (see page 3 of the 2013 summary report).

If you can tell a difference in Weirton of 1.53 degrees, you are more definitely sensitive to heat than anyone I know.
 

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I grew up in Bridgeport and can't tell any difference.

Averaged over all land and ocean surfaces, temperatures warmed roughly 1.53 degrees Fahrenheit (0.85 degrees Celsius) from 1880 to 2012, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (see page 3 of the 2013 summary report).

If you can tell a difference in Weirton of 1.53 degrees, you are more definitely sensitive to heat than anyone I know.
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I grew up in Bridgeport and can't tell any difference.

Averaged over all land and ocean surfaces, temperatures warmed roughly 1.53 degrees Fahrenheit (0.85 degrees Celsius) from 1880 to 2012, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (see page 3 of the 2013 summary report).

If you can tell a difference in Weirton of 1.53 degrees, you are more definitely sensitive to heat than anyone I know.

You are joking right? The leaves aren't dropping as early and the spring flowers are blooming earlier. I live in Richmond now and we had leaves on the trees in November this year. I have pictures from January of 2016 showing my annuals still blooming. You aren't noticing that? I mowed in early December this year.
 

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You are joking right? The leaves aren't dropping as early and the spring flowers are blooming earlier. I live in Richmond now and we had leaves on the trees in November this year. I have pictures from January of 2016 showing my annuals still blooming. You aren't noticing that? I mowed in early December this year.

Local results are not an indication of anything.
 

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You are joking right? The leaves aren't dropping as early and the spring flowers are blooming earlier. I live in Richmond now and we had leaves on the trees in November this year. I have pictures from January of 2016 showing my annuals still blooming. You aren't noticing that? I mowed in early December this year.

We have noticed no difference. A 1.5 degree warming over the last 140 years is negligible. If you can tell the difference, good for you. You are much more sensitive to heat than me. Our leaves, grass, etc., no discernible changes.

BTW, you do know any warming is not equally distributed across the globe, right?
 
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We have noticed no difference. A 1.5 degree warming over the last 140 years is negligible. If you can tell the difference, good for you. You are much more sensitive to heat than me. Our leaves, grass, etc., no discernible changes.

BTW, you do know any warming is not equally distributed acros
s the globe, right?

Honestly this topic doesn't interest me in the least. I'll be long dead before our blood boils from global warming, Yes I understand that warming is measured across the planet, but in my neck of the woods, so to speak, it is warmer than it was when I was a kid and I am not complaining.

I am not man-made global warming guy
 

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I am not man-made global warming guy

Me either OM. We can't even control when it rains (which typically cools off our very hot "dog days" here during Summer in Hotlanta.

How the hell can we heat up or cool down a 'water planet'?

Bogus hysteria
 

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You are joking right? The leaves aren't dropping as early and the spring flowers are blooming earlier. I live in Richmond now and we had leaves on the trees in November this year. I have pictures from January of 2016 showing my annuals still blooming. You aren't noticing that? I mowed in early December this year.
The leaves and flowers blooming argument. Love it.

Damn that George Bush and his black hating weather machine!
 

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Yes, we all better enjoy nature before Trump guts the EPA.....

The EPA deserves all the gutting it gets. It hid emails from FOIA requests by using aliases on private email servers. It abused it's power and was struck down by SCOTUS. Cut it in half and send the power back to the states. We can still have clean air and water.

Their most egregious regulation was one that forced power plants away from coal to achieve a .001% change in global warming.
 
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The EPA deserves all the gutting it gets. It hid emails from FOIA requests by using aliases on private email servers. It abused it's power and was struck down by SCOTUS. Cut it in half and send the power back to the states. We can still have clean air and water.

Their most egregious regulation was one that forced power plants away from coal to achieve a .001% change in global warming.

Overhauled yes....gutted no way. Kind of nice to catch game fish in Ohio and James rivers
 

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Overhauled yes....gutted no way. Kind of nice to catch game fish in Ohio and James rivers

And the states want you to do that too. Why must all the power reside in Washington? Do states want dirty air and water? Do states not want fishermen to visit and spend money in their states?

Libs are far too tied to an all powerful central Government. They can't imagine distributed government of the kind that our Founders created.
 
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And the states want you to do that too. Why must all the power reside in Washington? Do states want dirty air and water? Do states not want fishermen to visit and spend money in their states?

Libs are far too tied to an all powerful central Government. They can't imagine distributed government of the kind that our Founders created.

States can't afford to effectively regulate. You know that.
 

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They can if you flow the money wasted at the Fed level down to them.

Why is it assumed Washington always has all the answers?

In my opinion, they are the primary source of most of the problems.

Devolution now, devolved forever hopefully.
 
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States can't afford to effectively regulate. You know that.

And if states aren't play
Why is it assumed Washington always has all the answers?

In my opinion, they are the primary source of most of the problems.

Devolution now, devolved forever hopefully.

Damn the CFPB for going after that firm that scammed 9/11 cancer victims and NFL Concussion victims.
 

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om...

sounds like the brain washed obamapuppets...

eight years of lies have turned half of this country into raging lunatics...

like the Nazi party in 1930's Germany...
 
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