A 2016 prediction

WVPATX

Freshman
Jan 27, 2005
28,197
91
38
If Rubio wins the Republican nomination (a big if), he will win the Presidency.
 

WVPATX

Freshman
Jan 27, 2005
28,197
91
38
Re: Doubt the Tea people will allow that.

Like I said, a big if. However, he has changed his position on immigration. He is young and charasmatic with a terrific personal story (son of a bartender and maid). He is also Latino. Would be tough for Hillary to beat.
 

Keyser76

Freshman
Apr 7, 2010
11,912
58
0
Why assume Hillary will win the nomination?

Especially after 2008. I'm as tired of the Clintons as I am of the Bushes. If it is gonna be a woman for the Democrats I would prefer Warren but I don't think she wants the job.
 

WVPATX

Freshman
Jan 27, 2005
28,197
91
38
Re: Why assume Hillary will win the nomination?

You do know that Warren is a socialist, right? Do you really think this country's President needs to go even further left? Even Warren Buffett, a stout Dem, believes that Warren to too far left.
 

op2

All-Conference
Mar 16, 2014
11,676
1,281
103
Re: Doubt the Tea people will allow that.

If Rubio gets the GOP nomination it will be really interesting to see how much of the Hispanic vote he gets in the general election. The GOP has been losing that segment more and more lately in national elections and that segment is a growing proportion of the overall population. Rubio would surely reverse some of the Hispanic vote losses the GOP suffered in recent elections but it would be interesting to see how much.
 

Popeer

Freshman
Sep 8, 2003
21,466
81
0
Re: Why?

I think Rubio could give Hillary a race -- assuming of course that some other Democrat doesn't come out of the woodwork to knock her out the way Obama did in 2008 -- and if that happens then I'd say his odds of winning the White House would be even better.
 

bornaneer

All-Conference
Jan 23, 2014
30,930
1,633
113
Re: Why?

Not nationally known enough or considered presidential. It will be Bush or Walker against Clinton. The same dynamic that worked for Obama is lacking in Rubio and Warren. Obama was and is a very skilled orator,is charismatic and had a very compelling message. A very,very liberal friend of mine who lives in Vermont told me back in 2005 to keep an eye on Obama. He was correct.
 

WhiteTailEER

Sophomore
Jun 17, 2005
11,534
170
0
I like Warren too ... I'd go with Gillibrand though

I mean, if you're going to have to look at them over and over again for 4-8 years.

Doesn't matter much to me though. Unless somebody strikes me as truly unique, I won't be voting for either party ... again.

If nothing else we need somebody that will move more towards the middle that can potentially start to break down the huge divide between the parties. I don't really care if that person is Republican or Democrat, but that's what I think we need more than anything.
 

MountainBill

Redshirt
May 29, 2001
21,228
2
0
The media will guarantee that Hilary is the next president


they got their first black president now they want their first woman president....the president elected after Hilary will be the first post appocalypse president. Hopefully, there will be an election process for that one.
 

op2

All-Conference
Mar 16, 2014
11,676
1,281
103
Wasn't Obama going to ban you from Net if he won? He's running out of time*

*
 

bornaneer

All-Conference
Jan 23, 2014
30,930
1,633
113
Another reason why.....

Hillary Rodham Clinton and her support
groups are opening a massive fundraising effort to collect an
historically-high $2.5 billion to win the White House, according to
reports. The New York Times reported the total cost at $2.5 billion.
 

MountainBill

Redshirt
May 29, 2001
21,228
2
0
He pushed through his "Net Neutrality" he has two years left


unfettered and unphased by the elections.
 
Dec 7, 2010
20,602
120
0
Stock market was going to crash too


but of course, he's going to subvert the Constitution and run for another term anyway. God save the King.
 

op2

All-Conference
Mar 16, 2014
11,676
1,281
103
But you said Obama was going for force YOU off of the Internet. *

*
 

MountainBill

Redshirt
May 29, 2001
21,228
2
0
You mean like "earned income credit" and "affordable Healthcare"


you mean when the democrats name a law or regulation they name it for what it is actually doing and NOT the EXACT opposite of what it is doing? hmmmm.
 

moe

Junior
May 29, 2001
32,848
279
83
Re: Stock market was going to crash too

Lots of predictions on this board, lots of hot air.
 
Sep 6, 2013
27,594
120
0
Re: He pushed through his "Net Neutrality" he has two years left


I'm still pissed about him taking all of my guns - damn commie, socialist, muslim, dictator, impotent bastard.


On a serious note: I am dumbfounded at how so many people do not have a clue about what net neutrality really is. They really can't grasp the simple concept that net neutrality is a win for ordinary, everyday users of the internet like us. They can't get it through their head that Comcast, Verizon, AT&T, etc. would have been able to stick it to us and the internet would have no longer been a level playing field, with preferential treatment of certian sites.

smh
This post was edited on 4/14 2:07 PM by countryroads89
 

mneilmont

Sophomore
Jan 23, 2008
20,883
166
0
How big is this Tea Party you speak of?


What do they control? Is Hill really getting the press support she got prior to the arrival of Obama? Ain't seeing it so much as reporting the warts. Think the press may be waiting on someone else to step up and replace Hill while not leaving the press with egg on their face for making a hasty jump. Maybe they will fall in bed if no one stands up prior to year end.
 

mneilmont

Sophomore
Jan 23, 2008
20,883
166
0
Re: Doubt the Tea people will allow that.


Are you confusing them with the black block vote? Jeb could pull 30-40%.
 

mneilmont

Sophomore
Jan 23, 2008
20,883
166
0
Re: Why assume Hillary will win the nomination?


She obviously has money and machine and Bill. If she doesn't improve on her presentation, she may lose all.
 

mneilmont

Sophomore
Jan 23, 2008
20,883
166
0
Saw Bernie Sanders polled third on one of the majors


What percent of the liberal voters are on welfare. That would be in their best interest to get more.
 

DvlDog4WVU

All-Conference
Feb 2, 2008
47,205
3,276
113
Re: Why assume Hillary will win the nomination?

OMalley. That's some funny ****. Nothing good in Baltimore or Maryland occurred under that jackass.
Posted from Rivals Mobile
 

wvu2007

Senior
Jan 2, 2013
21,220
457
0
Why assume Hillary will win the nomination?

Especially after 2008. I'm as tired of the Clintons as I am of the Bushes. If it is gonna be a woman for the Democrats I would prefer Warren but I don't think she wants the job.

Should have taken your own advice in the general election. And warren? Pocahontas? lol
 

op2

All-Conference
Mar 16, 2014
11,676
1,281
103
In retrospect I think anyone the Republicans nominated would have beaten Hillary in 2016. I misjudged just how bad a candidate Hillary was.
 

wvu2007

Senior
Jan 2, 2013
21,220
457
0
In retrospect I think anyone the Republicans nominated would have beaten Hillary in 2016. I misjudged just how bad a candidate Hillary was.

To some degree I agree with you. Other Republican candidates would have gotten more of the establishment republican voters but not sure if they could have help up against media attaks the same way as Trump. Trump had a strong base from the beginning that were going to stick with him and did.
 

Keyser76

Freshman
Apr 7, 2010
11,912
58
0
In retrospect I think anyone the Republicans nominated would have beaten Hillary in 2016. I misjudged just how bad a candidate Hillary was.
I think she may have beaten Mitt because he would not have brought out a lot of first time voters like Trump did with his populist appeal for some folks. In retrospect, I'm glad she lost, if she had won then that would have been 12 years of Democrats in the white house and the GOP could have continued to suck up state offices and just based their appeal on opposing the Democrats. With Trump at the helm they have to show they can govern and they aren't exactly broadening their base. "Demographics" may cause chuckles on here but I like statistics and the GOP is doing badly with groups that are growing and doing great with groups that are shrinking.
 

DvlDog4WVU

All-Conference
Feb 2, 2008
47,205
3,276
113
I think she may have beaten Mitt because he would not have brought out a lot of first time voters like Trump did with his populist appeal for some folks. In retrospect, I'm glad she lost, if she had won then that would have been 12 years of Democrats in the white house and the GOP could have continued to suck up state offices and just based their appeal on opposing the Democrats. With Trump at the helm they have to show they can govern and they aren't exactly broadening their base. "Demographics" may cause chuckles on here but I like statistics and the GOP is doing badly with groups that are growing and doing great with groups that are shrinking.
Just because you repeat it doesn’t make it so. Folks care about money, and with Trump, they’re getting more than they were under the last guy. THAT MATTERS and will have an impact. You’re fooling yourself if you think otherwise.
 

bornaneer

All-Conference
Jan 23, 2014
30,930
1,633
113
In retrospect I think anyone the Republicans nominated would have beaten Hillary in 2016. I misjudged just how bad a candidate Hillary was.
Don't think so. Trump won, as I predicted he would, because he ran as a non politician candidate. Hillary would have beaten anyone of the lackluster Repubs that tried for the nomination.