A few thoughts from the Hump

msudawg200

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1. Thank goodness we made our 3s today because we were not good from the line. Granted a lot of them were good looks, so I definitely think we should have shot somewhere north of 40% from 3, it's difficult to maintain 63% from there. Helped make up for what should have been an extra 6 points or so we probably should have gotten from the line.

2. Refs called it very tight today. I think it played to Auburn's advantage because they are the more athletic team, so naturally they're more aggressive and better at getting to the basket. I think this played a big factor in the 1st half as we were not as aggressive as Auburn, so they shot a lot more FTs than us. Credit the guys for making the adjustment at the half because we got into the bonus quickly in the second half by being more aggressive.

3. Man our defense is just not good right now. Obviously there's been a lot of complaints about our perimeter defense and switching on ball screens, but how many open layups did Auburn get today? I mean they had to have had a good 25 points in the first half alone on FTs and uncontested layups. I'm not sure what the answer is here, but if we can't defend the perimeter and we give up several open layups, what can we do defensively?

4. Shaun Smith came up with 7 important minutes today. 5 points, a rebound, and no turnovers is huge from him in 7 minutes. That 3 he made in the first half was very important to help us "buy some minutes" for our regulars, especially considering that at the time he hit it, Bost, Hood, and Moultrie were all on the bench.

5. How on Earth does your senior PG who is the captain foul out with 5 minutes to play on a 3 point shot? That absolutely baffled me that Bost would pick up such a critical foul in that situation. Thank goodness we were able to hold on because I feel this game would have been on his shoulders had we lost in the end with him fouling out in such a poor manner.

6. That being said, we weren't great offensively late in the game without Dee, but we were better than I thought we'd be, and I really gained confidence in Bryant at PG today. Granted I think other guards in the SEC could give him more trouble bringing the ball up the floor than Auburn did, but I still have to give him kudos because he played a solid game, picked up 9 assists to ZERO turnovers (huge stat), and led us to a win. I think this could be a huge point going forward with so much uncertainty around Deville.

Overall, not a great performance, but it was a win and one we had to have. Hopefully we'll play better on Thursday with the Bears coming to town.
 

drunkernhelldawg

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Good post. Bost's foul might have been his worst play ever. We were lucky they missed that three down five near the end when we got the foul on the rebound. Shaun Smith is big news because we definitely need more players to contribute. Sidney did a great job knocking down free throws at the end. Hope we play a sharper game Thursday.
 

msudawg200

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I haven't been impressed with our defense very often this year. It's a real concern to me going forward. You can just look at the individuals we have out there and really, none of them impress you much individually (Dee at times is good but he can get exposed by certain matchups - such as today, he couldn't keep Ward out of the lane), and as a whole, it's even worse.
 

CadaverDawg

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Another thing that I keep noticing is that we can not get through a screen on the defensive end. Rodney Hood and Brian Bryant are the worst, but Dee is horrible at it too. Some of you coaches tell me....is it that other teams set better screens than we do, or our players just not doing something right? Because we are rarely that wide open after a screen when on offense.

But you're right, if you're going to play that far off of the perimeter guys and not get through screens, then we should at least not be giving up so many easy drive-bys to the basket.

I really thought we figured a few things out against their zone in the 2nd half. When we got the ball to Moultrie at the free throw line and he took one step in and pump faked, he had a wide open Sid cutting to the hoop, a kick out to Hood or Steele, or a shot he could take. He made the right decision most of those times and it led to easy buckets. Again, this could have just been bc Auburn plays a bad zone, I'm no coach, but either way I thought offensively we had some very good moments.
 

Bulldog Backer

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CadaverDawg said:
Another thing that I keep noticing is that we can not get through a screen on the defensive end. Rodney Hood and Brian Bryant are the worst, but Dee is horrible at it too. Some of you coaches tell me....is it that other teams set better screens than we do, or our players just not doing something right? Because we are rarely that wide open after a screen when on offense.

But you're right, if you're going to play that far off of the perimeter guys and not get through screens, then we should at least not be giving up so many easy drive-bys to the basket.

I really thought we figured a few things out against their zone in the 2nd half. When we got the ball to Moultrie at the free throw line and he took one step in and pump faked, he had a wide open Sid cutting to the hoop, a kick out to Hood or Steele, or a shot he could take. He made the right decision most of those times and it led to easy buckets. Again, this could have just been bc Auburn plays a bad zone, I'm no coach, but either way I thought offensively we had some very good moments.
...we have had real problems with teams with stronger, more physical guards for years. For some reason, Stansbury picks out 170 pound players. Auburn's #1, Ward, simply was too strong. They would empty out the middle, and Ward would go right by Bryan Bryant. Bryant simply was not physical enough to match up with him. Ward is 6-1 205. Bryant is 6-3 168. Dee did a good job on Frankie Sullivan. Sullivan was their leading scorer, averaging about 14 ppg. Ward was averaging only 11.

We scored 91 points against a team that wins games primarily on defense. We had 5 players in double figures and 21 assists. Like you, I was happy with the offense, the rest got our shooting legs back. If I were coach, I would have our team shooting about 100 free throws each day in practice. We were awful down the stretch. The game wouldn't have been close had we hit 75%.
 

coach66

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we won't go far in the tourney. An average or poor shooting night and we will be done. Defense is easy to correct if your players are in shape and willing to sell out to playing hard nosed aggressive defense. It really is a mindset and we don't have it right now.
 

prairiedawg

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when we forced them to use most of the shot clock and then into a poor shot. Why we can't maintain that is baffling.
 

shsdawg

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about yesterday's game: It's tough to play hardnosed defence in a game with whistle happy refs like those. It is a trend we have to correct though. We know we can do it. Back early we were playing playing pretty tough D.
 

CadaverDawg

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teams are quickly learning that he provides zero help defense on a drive. They are using his man to set a screen, and then they basically have the option of a wide open 3 if the guard goes behind the screen, or a drive to the basket with no help defense from Sid. His lack of mobility on the defensive end is not only hurting us, it's being used as a strategy for other teams offensive game plan. Something's got to give, and I have no idea what the answer is. I just don't see how as a coach you can go in to the NCAA tournament knowing that you will be giving up a guaranteed 10-12 points a game on laziness and lack of defensive help from Sid. And I'm truly not saying this to bash Sid, I'm saying it because I would like to know what some of you think the answer to this is....or am I exaggerating it? In person yesterday it seemed even more apparent how bad his defense hurts us.
 

Dawgbreeze

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he is not the only one who doesn't help out all the time. I find it odd though that all the so called basketball experts on this board aren't gripeing about our offensive sets. Damn, we scored 91 points and left another 10 at the line with misses. We have little depth but our staff did a good job balancing the minutes yesterday with our foul troubles and yes, we need a great lock down defensive guard but we don't have one, so it is what it is. We are still better in the man to man because we can't block out in the zone and teams have killed us on the offensive glass. Lets just hope we put a body on Buckner Thursday night and if we do, we will beat the Bears at home.
 

CadaverDawg

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Especially against the zone. You can tell that Rick has spent time working on it, and you're right, not many people on here want to talk about that like they did when we weren't able to score on a zone. Granted....it was Auburn.

As for the defense though, I'm really worried that playing 4 against 5 on the defensive end is eventually going to be our down fall in the tourney. Auburn has had multiple games this year where they scored less than 45 points in the game. I think they had a 35 point game. But yet, they scored 88 points on the road? That worries the **** out of me. And I understand your "we are what we are" comment, but I disagree with it because we have not been that ****** on defense all year. So either something has changed with our preparation, or teams are figuring out how to take advantage of Sid and our guards. But again, that's just what my observations have led me to be believe.
 

msudawg200

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Yes, Auburn has only scored 40 points a couple times this year, but consider the fact that 1. Ward was a horrendous matchup for us because we don't have a guard who is physical enough to keep him out of the lane, and 2. the refs called an EXTREMELY tight game yesterday, which saw Auburn get 26 points at the FT line. We definitely played poor defense yesterday, but I don't think you can necessarily compare how many points they scored vs us to how many they scored vs team X because different teams have different strengths/weaknesses. Also, I think with normal officiating yesterday, the game would have ended closer to 81-78 instead of 91-88.
 

CadaverDawg

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on offense, because he has the skills to put up 16-18 a night. He is a great role player right now though, with a really good feel for the game. Doesn't make a whole lot of mistakes or take many bad shots. Very underrated what he has done for us this year
 

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I don't know if its coaching or I've overestimated our talent but it's starting to feel like pre-season expectations are once aGAIN not going to be met. The vandy road win is the only SEC game this year I felt met those expectations. If we don't kick it up a notch, getting our asses beat in the first round looks more likely than the sweet 16.
 

CadaverDawg

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to our competition, we also tend to play Up to our competition as well. Not to mention, we have played very well on a neutral court this year. Combine that with a group of guys like Moultrie, Bost, and maybe Sid who will be playing their last games in college, and Hood who is a winner....you could just as easily see this team make a run and play their asses off in the tourney too. I know that is not a popular opinion on this board, but nobody can say we haven't competed with every good team we played this year. The Arkansas game, and the last 5 minutes of Florida are our only two bad outings since the Akron debacle.