Is that he chooses to receive the ball. Every playoff team that has won the toss today has deferred. It’s the smart play. A small thing that bothers me.
A sign Lebby isn’t super smart
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There are lots of signs unless you choose not to recognize them
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Yes, I've always thought that was strange.
Remember one time a few years ago, one player said "we'll kick" instead of "defer" and they wound up kicking both halves?
Remember one time a few years ago, one player said "we'll kick" instead of "defer" and they wound up kicking both halves?
Going For it on his own 18 on fourth down resulting in a pick Six told me we may dealing with a booger eater
4th and inches and we line up in the shotgun bothers me
I swear. I think he believes all gas all the time even with a lead against Texas and a field goal to win the game at Florida.
It's like those high school coaches that never punt on 4th down in a way. All gas.
It's like those high school coaches that never punt on 4th down in a way. All gas.
The sequence just before halftime against Ole Miss when we had first down at the Ole Miss 22 down 14-7 with 2:13 left in the half and the clock running & then kicked off to them with 1:45 left without making them burn a time-out because we ran a play before the 2 minute warning and then threw 2 incomplete passes leaving them plenty of time for a TD after we kicked a FG for a 21-10 halftime lead - that did it for me.
I told my buddy behind me in the stands that Lebby would screw it up & give Ole Miss the ball back too early when Fluff ran out of bounds.
I told my buddy behind me in the stands that Lebby would screw it up & give Ole Miss the ball back too early when Fluff ran out of bounds.
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To be fair if I was him I'd want to keep our defense off the field too
As pointed out in this thread and many other threads, he gets $4M/year and doesn't know the basics of game management. There are high school coaches that manage game clocks better. The head coach isn't supposed to be a liability, but Lord help us, we have a Lebbylity running the show this season.
Why was the automatic option to receive 30 years ago? I don’t think I ever heard of or saw anyone defer until the late 90s.
Hot take here. Kamario could be a program changer for us, but he won’t be bc we will not put the players around him to succeed. We’ll get close, but the lack of talent combined with poor coaching will lead to another disappointing season next year.
We fire Lebby, Kamario leaves. Rinse and repeat. Make another questionable hire and roll the dice.
Lebby is not a competent SEC head coach. Yet we are going to waste 3 years on him.
I’ll give Ole Miss this. Those MFers want to win. Mississippi State is Content.
We fire Lebby, Kamario leaves. Rinse and repeat. Make another questionable hire and roll the dice.
Lebby is not a competent SEC head coach. Yet we are going to waste 3 years on him.
I’ll give Ole Miss this. Those MFers want to win. Mississippi State is Content.
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The first huge sign I got that he is not super smart was when he hired a dude named Coleman Hutzler as his DC that had NO resume to hold the job. Even the big Bama fans I talked to didn't know anything about Coleman Hutzler.
Jackie once won the toss and deferred both halves. Only time I’ve seen it happen.
No it was Florida who chose to kick both halves. Mistake by captain. It was the 3rd & 57 game I believe.
Kamario signed with MSU despite Lebby. He ain't going anywhere unless we do something historically stupid. Remember Uncle Omar signed with JWS & stayed despite CROOM
Deferring gives you your only chance at 2 consecutive possessions.
Apples to oranges. Historically stupid? Our whole football existence is littered with historically stupid decisions.
I absolutely agree - do not ever underestimate the ability of MSU athletics to make a stupid decision.
Kinda like the Obama comment - Never underestimate Joe Biden's ability to 17 up any situation.
Oops - gonna get it locked
Way back in the day there was no option to defer. You could either receive or kick or pick which end you want to defend. That’s it. If you don’t choose to receive the 1st half kick, you won’t be receiving the 2nd half kick either.
There are also onside kicks, and turnovers….
And even in a best case scenario where you actually get the ball end of the first half and beginning of the 2nd half, there’s still a 25 minute break between the two possessions. So, it’s not some huge advantage where you get a tired defense for the 2nd “consecutive” possession.
I just don’t think the receive / defer decision is as cut and dry as you say. Plenty if variables go into it….talent / depth of both teams, wind / weather, etc.
Then it’s happened twice. Jackie did it because he was playing field position with the defense.
Turnovers are not consecutive possessions. Onsides technically are but the chances of getting it through deferring is far greater.
This is 6 years old but looks like electing to defer is a 1 point per game advantage.
https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/opening-kickoff-receive-or-defer/
Y’all could be watching OM clown show to not get the field goal kicked but instead you want to dump on our coach.
Skilled at multitaskingY’all could be watching OM clown show to not get the field goal kicked but instead you want to dump on our coach.
You should have had people in place who would have been able to identify his lack of smarts in the 1st two minutes of his initial interview
Maybe that person(s) could have prevented him from hiring Hutzler & retaining him for year 2. We pay him $4-$5 million per year to not make those type mistakes
I don’t think you can look at anything “on average” as it relates to college football…where there isn’t parity from the top to the bottom. What Toledo should do against Central Michigan is going to be a lot different than what Mississippi State should do against Georgia, or what Alabama should do against Louisiana Monroe.
Generally speaking, a team without a lot of talent or depth on defense is going to want the ball first, to delay that from coming into play for as long as possible. A team with superior depth on both sides should defer. If it’s an 11 AM game in September, that comes into play even more. There just isn’t a universal right or wrong answer.
Didn’t Leach also like to take the ball?
edit: I still think deferring is almost always the right call, but I don’t think that alone necessarily means Lebby’s a moron.
edit: I still think deferring is almost always the right call, but I don’t think that alone necessarily means Lebby’s a moron.
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We are ran by an incompetent Bureacrat who let Cohen walk over him . Cohen sacrificed Football for Baseball.
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