According to a tweet from Jeff Hoover the new state budget gives state employees a raise except teachers.....
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Education majors are among the most academically inferior degrees in Higher Ed. They are loaded with worthless liberal ideology and fluff courses while only lightly covering real academic material.
I'd prefer a Math major to be hired as a Secondary school Math teacher over an Ed major with a watered down Math concentration any day. Most of these people are only lightly qualified if that to teach real academic subjects. I don't know if KY is hiring from this racket or not, but I've seen it elsewhere and it's helps explain the poor quality of education in those areas.
At the doctorate level, PhDs laugh at EdDs. They get no academic respect and are a joke in Higher Ed ... and among the dumbest supposedly "highly educated" individuals I've met.
Most of these incompetents strive for administrative positions so they can feel important while doing nothing that helps students. In fact, their "contribution" is to support and leech off the bloated bureaucracy while further increasing the cost of education and degrading the quality.
I'd prefer a Math major to be hired as a Secondary school Math teacher over an Ed major with a watered down Math concentration any day. Most of these people are only lightly qualified if that to teach real academic subjects. I don't know if KY is hiring from this racket or not, but I've seen it elsewhere and it's helps explain the poor quality of education in those areas.
At the doctorate level, PhDs laugh at EdDs. They get no academic respect and are a joke in Higher Ed ... and among the dumbest supposedly "highly educated" individuals I've met.
Most of these incompetents strive for administrative positions so they can feel important while doing nothing that helps students. In fact, their "contribution" is to support and leech off the bloated bureaucracy while further increasing the cost of education and degrading the quality.
You just get all the ****** students, because parents who care are starting to pull their kids from the nonsense going on in our public school systems.
Thank goodness for our legislature making charter schools more viable! Competition will force you guys to be better.
My Mom and my sister were both elementary school teachers, and while I DO love them, neither one them are going to split the atom.
I'll leave it at that.
The best math teacher I ever had in public school had an engineering degree. He took the gig with an emergency certification (due to a shortage) to get by until he could find a job in the private sector.
I'll leave it at that.
The best math teacher I ever had in public school had an engineering degree. He took the gig with an emergency certification (due to a shortage) to get by until he could find a job in the private sector.
So you think the teachers unions have done a good job this past two years?
Teachers Unions don't care about employees, they care about the union. Not to mention there's still no discussion why school board member salaries continue to raise and raise and they create nonsensical positions that aren't needed.
I understand the outside influence you're saying, but teachers also don't know what it's like in the private sector...tho all of us did go to school. It still fails to explain why they are so desperate to put something in a 5 year olds education.
Priests make like 15k
Pretty sure School Board is an unpaid position. And they don't create positions. The superintendent will present staffing requests and the board either approves or doesn't.
Administrative overhead is through the damn roof though. Schools need: more boots on the ground, in the form of additional technical support, and physical plant workers, and fewer "curriculum specialists", Title 1 compliance officers, academic deans, etc.
Tech support, in particular, at FCPS is woefully understaffed. The technician to school ratio was roughly 10 campuses per tech when I left, which is ridiculous, when you consider that they support all of the staff, and every student (in the form of Chromebooks, which are 1 to 1 now) That is thousands upon thousands of workstations, not to mention software issues, phone issues (all the phones are VOIP (voice over IP), upgrades, account maintenance, deploying replacememt machines, maintaining a running inventory. Those folks are BURIED. And teachers have become SO reliant on the technology, that when it fails, they have NO backup plan, and freak out. If it were a private business with 70 plus satellite work locations, 80,000 devices, and 40,000 plus users the IT staff would be triple, at least, as compared to what FCPS currently employs.
When I retired last August, There was a backlog of 5000 Chromebooks to be repaired (all done in house) It got so bad that FCPS had to hire temps to come in to help repair them, and after a year they got it DOWN to 5000.
Administrative overhead is through the damn roof though. Schools need: more boots on the ground, in the form of additional technical support, and physical plant workers, and fewer "curriculum specialists", Title 1 compliance officers, academic deans, etc.
Tech support, in particular, at FCPS is woefully understaffed. The technician to school ratio was roughly 10 campuses per tech when I left, which is ridiculous, when you consider that they support all of the staff, and every student (in the form of Chromebooks, which are 1 to 1 now) That is thousands upon thousands of workstations, not to mention software issues, phone issues (all the phones are VOIP (voice over IP), upgrades, account maintenance, deploying replacememt machines, maintaining a running inventory. Those folks are BURIED. And teachers have become SO reliant on the technology, that when it fails, they have NO backup plan, and freak out. If it were a private business with 70 plus satellite work locations, 80,000 devices, and 40,000 plus users the IT staff would be triple, at least, as compared to what FCPS currently employs.
When I retired last August, There was a backlog of 5000 Chromebooks to be repaired (all done in house) It got so bad that FCPS had to hire temps to come in to help repair them, and after a year they got it DOWN to 5000.
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The worse thing FCPS did was to allow those Chromebooks to go home without a simple way of tracking where they are. Once they’re off the network, they Marcus Welby on Mars. And the amount of damage done to them when all schools made them available to go home during “winter” is insane.
Mind you, that took place AFTER the circus that HK described above. I can’t even fathom how many they have at the depot now.
Mind you, that took place AFTER the circus that HK described above. I can’t even fathom how many they have at the depot now.
We may disagree a lot...but we have something common that not everyone understands.
No down time? Says the guy with 25,000+ posts on just this forum. I am sure none of them are during your work hours since you are so damn busy
As teachers post on here? lmfao.
I'm an IT guy. I spend most of my day on forums. Some for work, some for pleasure.
I also upgrade systems overnight. Yep, you heard that right.. I work past 5pm.
And priests get everything paid for. My uncle is one at some small *** country church and he gets housing, a car, health insurance, clothing allowance (and it covers a lot more than what he just needs for church), frequent free meals from the congregation, etc. His salary goes almost entirely to luxury. And since he basically only has to work two days a week at the church (according to him), he works on the side as a pastor two days a week at the local hospital system.
So, if we're keeping score at home, it's:
Teachers - 1
Clergy - 1
IT workers - 2
There is nobody on God's green earth, that works more f***ed up hours than IT folks. It's like being on call 24/7
I had to remote in from a GD cruise ship one time to fix a server at transportation. Bad weather? System is down and won't re-boot? Get in the car at 2:00 in the morning and drive in. A high level administrator can't remember a password, and somebody gave him/her your number? 11:00 pm call on a Saturday night. On and on ad nauseum. And it isn't a rare occurence. It's pretty damn regular.
That's not entirely fair. There are a lot of folks in the trade/service industry that have to do that as well.
Teachers - 1
Clergy - 1
IT workers - 2
There is nobody on God's green earth, that works more f***ed up hours than IT folks. It's like being on call 24/7
I had to remote in from a GD cruise ship one time to fix a server at transportation. Bad weather? System is down and won't re-boot? Get in the car at 2:00 in the morning and drive in. A high level administrator can't remember a password, and somebody gave him/her your number? 11:00 pm call on a Saturday night. On and on ad nauseum. And it isn't a rare occurence. It's pretty damn regular.
That's not entirely fair. There are a lot of folks in the trade/service industry that have to do that as well.
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I am an educator. I have worked second jobs to make ends meet. However, I will forfeit the social security I pay and should receive. So as you say, I only work part of the year...and thus work another job to help make ends meet, but can not get the social security I pay and deserve. Would you be happy to work knowing the money you are paying will be taken? How would you feel about forfeiting part or all of your social security? It is the Government Pension Offset and the Windfall Elimination Provision. Tell me again how great we treat our teachers!
PR is a real fun one when someone at your company ***** up. "CEO of Company X Arrested for Human Trafficking" well have fun with that **** storm every day for the next few months, if not longer
Why are KY teachers ineligible for social security? Are they also exempted from paying into it?
If we’re comparing ****** schedules my brother is an ICU physician so think he has everyone beat these last couple years 
. He literally texted me the other day bitching he hasn’t had a raise in 11 years so it is true everyone feels underpaid lol
. He literally texted me the other day bitching he hasn’t had a raise in 11 years so it is true everyone feels underpaid lolI did what I did for various reasons. Major one being, my folks couldn't financially bear the burden of college. So I enlisted to take some burden off them.
Could have went, times I wished I had. But I was able to make a good living, pay our bills and raise our kids. Probably the smarter thing would have been to a get a degree. No doubt.
Factory work is what it is. I worked my up the ladder. But my body has paid the price. Made lots of very good friends along the way. Everyone chooses a path. I chose mine. We make the best of it.
Could have went, times I wished I had. But I was able to make a good living, pay our bills and raise our kids. Probably the smarter thing would have been to a get a degree. No doubt.
Factory work is what it is. I worked my up the ladder. But my body has paid the price. Made lots of very good friends along the way. Everyone chooses a path. I chose mine. We make the best of it.
I didn’t think Kentucky teachers pay into social security? Can you send me a link that says they do?
That’s always been my understanding.
Kentucky teachers do not pay into social security. However, in the second jobs I have to work, I do pay into social security AND have paid enough to earn benefits, which I will not see because I am a Ky teacher. It is called the Gov Pension Offset and Windfall Elimination Provision. There is nothing fair about it.
Yes. I have always worked multiple jobs. I just wish they would let me receive what I have earned.
Interesting stuff, that piece is news to me. Looks like there are quite a few variables that go into the reduction. Looks like at some point there is a chance none is forfeited.I am told I will lose 2/3 of the social security I have earned. It won't be a great deal because it was always the second jobs that I paid into social security. But the fact that I forfeit any is pretty sickening. I don't think that is being unreasonable at allJust want what I earned through all my hard work (like anyone else).
It is completely unfair and ridiculous. The democrats of this state set it up that way and opted out of social security back in the day because they thought they could manage the pension better than the federal government. It also gave them funding options for the state budget with the flexibility to adjust payments to the pensions in tight years.
A quick look at the pensions for teachers will show you how short sighted and ignorant that notion was.
And for a much as I've griped in this thread, the underfunded pension liability pisses me off more than anything. You make a promise, you keep it. And we are not doing that.
Yep. It is utterly disgusting IMO. Most people do not realize these "acts". I didn't realize this until after I began my teaching career in 1995. Still glad I became a teacher. I love what I do. And I would love to get the amount of SS that I have earned. I earned every penny of my pension and I have earned every penny of SS.
First off, the other poster was poking fun. I was not. So, direct your comments to him.
Second, I would know what I’m getting into. If I knew I wasn’t going to get SS and that bothered me……I would either not go into teaching or I would have a plan for it (like investing)…..I wouldn’t complain about it.
Third, most states have changed their format. Tennessee teachers have a self funded retirement like a 403……and get SS. Why hasn’t Kentucky changed?
Bevin tried to modernize the pension and the teachers union threw a giant hissy fit, staged illegal walkouts, and spent millions of dollars against his reelection.
They barely defeated him and got us stuck with Andy the dipshit, but they are still a huge faction of votes.
Does he work three 12s?If we’re comparing ****** schedules my brother is an ICU physician so think he has everyone beat these last couple years
If we’re comparing ****** schedules my brother is an ICU physician so think he has everyone beat these last couple years
Bevin lost because people hated him. He was an ahole and a jerk and not nearly as smart as you think he was.
I didn't vote for him either. He was definitely a jerk, but not as much of a dipshit as Andy.
All Bevin had to was keep his mouth shut...but he was too dumb even to do that
100%. He lost by 5K and the other republicans won by 180-300k votes. Moron.