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You can check back through the NAFOOM archives and see my thoughts on Quay. I've said all along he'd be a great player and was worth the risk. He actually sat in front of me a few times over the past 2 seasons. Seemed like a nice kid. Looked like a grown man. I'm not trying to save the day related to recruiting, I was just chiming in on Nkemdiche and it morphed into all this other stuff.
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It's seemingly taken out of context or added for effect, but it is in the video. The video is still up on youtube. I watched it with the sound turned down this morning.
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Or a douche for that matter. I've attacked no one. I've obeyed the 17 rule. I've tried to clearly state my points. I've owned up that my opinions are opinions and not facts. What about that makes me a dick?
I am liking this cat fight as a nice diversion in late July. Continuing slapping one another gentlemen and may the best homer win.
Simple. You don't take his commitment and tell him you need to reevalute his knee later before you can commit to him. You certainly don't take his commitment, preach to him about what a commitment means, and then have him spend all summer not visiting other schools.
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Ole Miss is not Alabama and if they get enough publicity for pulling this kind of stuff, I think it will prove incredibly hard to get out of state kids to commit to them, especially early, or to stop looking for better offers even when they say they've committed.
I really hope on a lot of levels that this kid gets healthy, has an amazing senior year, and goes on to play for a school who pounds Ole Miss every year for his college career.
Ole Miss is not Alabama and if they get enough publicity for pulling this kind of stuff, I think it will prove incredibly hard to get out of state kids to commit to them, especially early, or to stop looking for better offers even when they say they've committed.
I really hope on a lot of levels that this kid gets healthy, has an amazing senior year, and goes on to play for a school who pounds Ole Miss every year for his college career.
Maybe Dan wants to give Lelland Ducksworth that speech on what commitment means again. Dan cut him less than two weeks before signing day...after he had been committed for 5 months. Mathis has plenty of time to find a new school. As a matter of fact, he has a MSU offer. Sign him up.rexxx said:
This **** happens every day in college football. Quit acting shocked. Prospects flirt and don't honor their commitments and coaches cut guys to make room for better commitments.
not offering 300 rising seniors scholarships. Anybody who didn't see a train wreck coming out of this is in idiot. Don't be alarmed when this happens aGAIN (possibly many more times) before signing day.
My roommate is the strength and conditioning/wide receiver coach at Thomasville High School. I remember the day he came in and told me Mario had committed to Ole Miss. I promptly responded, "You'd better tell him to beware, they are offering wayyyy too many kids for a commit this early to withstand." One way or another, I knew they were going to 17 this kid in the ***.
Another thing I thought was fishy: there is not one person from the Ole Miss staff that has even SPOKEN to the head coach at Thomasville High School. RobbieRandolph texted me Friday about Mario's commitment being nullified. I called my roommate immediately - his reply: "What? He was there last weekend. He visited the trainers and everything, told him he was cleared to play." How in the 17 is the interwebs gonna know about this before his High School coaches?
Good luck recruiting Georgia in the future, this whole thing just stinks to high heaven.
My roommate is the strength and conditioning/wide receiver coach at Thomasville High School. I remember the day he came in and told me Mario had committed to Ole Miss. I promptly responded, "You'd better tell him to beware, they are offering wayyyy too many kids for a commit this early to withstand." One way or another, I knew they were going to 17 this kid in the ***.
Another thing I thought was fishy: there is not one person from the Ole Miss staff that has even SPOKEN to the head coach at Thomasville High School. RobbieRandolph texted me Friday about Mario's commitment being nullified. I called my roommate immediately - his reply: "What? He was there last weekend. He visited the trainers and everything, told him he was cleared to play." How in the 17 is the interwebs gonna know about this before his High School coaches?
Good luck recruiting Georgia in the future, this whole thing just stinks to high heaven.
You keep saying that, yet everyone has provided evidence that Dan Mullen is different than Hugh Freeze. It is clear that Freeze is a southern preacher that is good at what he does - talk. And it is clear that he does not care about walking the walk that accompanies his preachings. Yes, Freezus is full of bs not unlike your former coach. Dan Mullen is not, he is a hard-working, dedicated coach that is hell bent on winning. He will do what he says and he holds those around him to the same standards. <div>shamelessselfpromoter said:
</div><div>Sorry you have a ****** person as a head coach. It is embarrassing to the state of MS that he represents us, standing on his soap box and preaching to naive, impressionable young minds that these coaches care about them as people, not just tools of success, when in reality that is all it seems that matters to Freezus. </div><div>
</div><div>Don't take a commitment from one of these young men if you think that he may not be there come signing day.
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I said it once, and then reiterated it when my post was misinterpreted. I don't know the extent to which all of them do it, but it is appears to me that they all do. Maybe Mullen doesn't preach Christianity to his players, only discipline and hard work, but I'd be surprised if he didn't. We are in the Bible Belt where most families expect that out of the men they entrust to mentor their children. I personally am not a big fan of that. It sets you up to look like a hypocrite when something like this happens. That's why I referenced the video that you all are so pissy about. Mullen's words in the video were twisted around to make him look like a hypocrite. <div>
</div><div>And I'm not defending what Freeze did by pulling the scholarship. SEC football is a business and sometimes ****** things happen to good people in business. We could still end up with Mathis, who knows. I'm not a coach, a talent scout, or a medical professional who is capable of diagnosing the progress of an ACL surgery recovery. I don't know what was discussed with the player and his family upon his commitment. If it went down just like the AJC reported, then I agree, it's kind of ******. I suspect we didn't get the whole story. I'll give Freeze the benefit of the doubt. You guys obviously do not. You all act like he's the worst human being to ever step on a football field.
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</div><div>And I'm not defending what Freeze did by pulling the scholarship. SEC football is a business and sometimes ****** things happen to good people in business. We could still end up with Mathis, who knows. I'm not a coach, a talent scout, or a medical professional who is capable of diagnosing the progress of an ACL surgery recovery. I don't know what was discussed with the player and his family upon his commitment. If it went down just like the AJC reported, then I agree, it's kind of ******. I suspect we didn't get the whole story. I'll give Freeze the benefit of the doubt. You guys obviously do not. You all act like he's the worst human being to ever step on a football field.
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1. You might, but I'm not going to hold my breath on that. Especially with the bad taste left in that young man's mouth after having his scholly pulled. <div>2. He is.</div>shamelessselfpromoter said:
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1. I'm not going to refute you on that. I have no idea. Although from the updated article it certainly seems as if we still lead for his services.<div>
</div><div>2. Really? Based on what? I don't know him or anything, but he seems like a good guy. I've not read anything personally negative about him. I'm not flaming you here, I just don't get the seemingly unwarranted hatred. I'd love to hear why he's such a bad guy.</div>
</div><div>2. Really? Based on what? I don't know him or anything, but he seems like a good guy. I've not read anything personally negative about him. I'm not flaming you here, I just don't get the seemingly unwarranted hatred. I'd love to hear why he's such a bad guy.</div>
I hope for the day we give them their 12th loss and listen to those clowns talk about LSU as their real rival.
Of small children, snatching candy from their hands as he gallantly strolls down the aisle selling the Dream to everyone. Honestly though,I don't really think he's a bad guy. I have no idea what he is really like. But like you, I cannot stand all that preachy bs, especially after Nutt. And that stuff really gets under my skin.<div><div>
</div><div>He needs people to buy in but it's not going to happen overnight.<div>
</div><div>The fact that he said he had more talent at ASU was absurd; that's not a way to motivate players that aren't buying into you. He does need to weed the garden however, remove all the bad seeds, whether they be cedar or poison ivy the ones that aren't buying in shouldn't corrupt the players that are.<div>
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</div><div>He needs people to buy in but it's not going to happen overnight.<div>
</div><div>The fact that he said he had more talent at ASU was absurd; that's not a way to motivate players that aren't buying into you. He does need to weed the garden however, remove all the bad seeds, whether they be cedar or poison ivy the ones that aren't buying in shouldn't corrupt the players that are.<div>
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He said "there was more talent, or maybe depth is a better word, at certain spots." pretty big difference, and probably true considering they had like 4 guys drafted.
when mullen has situations where we are under the impression that a kid wants to commit, yet mullen will not take the commitment until he hears from a higher rated kid or a kid from MS in liggins case
Some examples that come to mind
Jeremy Liggins vs Nick S
Nash Nance/Barry Brunetti/Dylan Favre vs Cam Newton
Some examples that come to mind
Jeremy Liggins vs Nick S
Nash Nance/Barry Brunetti/Dylan Favre vs Cam Newton
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/08/01/insider-recruits-flip-flopping-between-colleges-over-the-summer/
This was published in the AJC blog this morning castingacynical lighton what was said byMathis' mom in the CA article. It is really interesting that Mario, his dad, and coach areinsinuating vastly different things than the mom.Add this to the Chris Robinson story and, in the words of CarlWeathers,you got yourself a stew going. we could all stand to learn a thing or two from Freeze.****
This was published in the AJC blog this morning castingacynical lighton what was said byMathis' mom in the CA article. It is really interesting that Mario, his dad, and coach areinsinuating vastly different things than the mom.Add this to the Chris Robinson story and, in the words of CarlWeathers,you got yourself a stew going. we could all stand to learn a thing or two from Freeze.****