Aikman texted Dak

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Troy Aikman on @dfwticket said he texted Dak Prescott, "First postseason win of many," after beating Seattle. "I really believe that. He's going to be the Cowboys quarterback for a long time and he's going to find himself winning a lot of football games in January going forward."— Jon Machota (@jonmachota) January 8, 2019
 
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That quote goes against the narrative pushed by many on this board that Troy is jealous and doesn’t like Dak.
 

Shamoan

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i dont think jealousy has anything to do with it. people were critical because aikman, as an analyst, was holding dak to a standard he himself could not uphold.
 

msstate7

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i dont think jealousy has anything to do with it. people were critical because aikman, as an analyst, was holding dak to a standard he himself could not uphold.

Then joe buck should never critique any player in the nfl...

Bushrod misses a block that gets brees sacked, and buck says, "well I won't say anything bc I would've missed that block too"
 

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i dont think jealousy has anything to do with it. people were critical because aikman, as an analyst, was holding dak to a standard he himself could not uphold.

Interesting perspective from a frequent critic of M-State athletes and coaches.
 

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I think there is a balance in providing honest criticism, but Aikman's comments are not even in-line with other analysts including Romo and other quarterbacks. I believe fans are justified in feeling there is something off in Aikman's commentary on Dak, and I'm not sure what it is. Maybe Dak didn't bow to him properly at some social function as a Dallas icon? Something's off and its not just pure analytical criticism.
 
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It’s just the way he is. He and Collinsworth can be overcritical at times during games and it’s not just at a certain player, it’s everyone.
 

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how do you know im not a winner? unfortunately, im merely a spectator and cant control the program, coaches, or players.
 
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DoggieDaddy13

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I really think Troy is a big homer and believes the more he critiques Dak's play the better it might make him. I bet you Troy likes Dak as a person and player way the hell better than he liked Romo. When you go way out of your way to critique a player - like Troy definitely does - there's more there.
 

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Troy sounds like he had a "talking to" from Jerruh.

I think it may have started with Jerry. When Dallas was 3-5 Troy made some critical, "blow it up", comments on Dallas radio.

I suspect Jerry shot back at Troy. Maybe a text. Whatever, but since then Troy has at times been overly critical and short on praise for Dak.
 

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I think Troy is overall critical of QBs and especially the Cowboys. It’s his head overcompensating for trying not to be a homer. I like Troy’s call most the time.
 

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Aikman saw Sixpack's downvote this week and decided to do something about that ****
 

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Somewhat related question- aikman blamed dak for noah browns illegal shift. Brown was the only man in motion so he can be in motion at the snap. Why was he called for an illegal shift?
 

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Seems like maybe his last twitch/move was squared up and towards the LOS instead of continuing across.
 

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Somewhat related question- aikman blamed dak for noah browns illegal shift. Brown was the only man in motion so he can be in motion at the snap. Why was he called for an illegal shift?

When Dak called him back in, I think the refs determined that he made a move towards the line of scrimmage, which meant he had to get reset for 1 second.
 

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He went in motion and then squared up to get reset, but wasn’t set for a full second before the ball was snapped. That penalty is on the quarterback because he called him in motion and then didn’t wait for him to get reset before calling for the snap.
 

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When Dak called him back in, I think the refs determined that he made a move towards the line of scrimmage, which meant he had to get reset for 1 second.

And the play clock was around 2 seconds so Dak had to snap it even without Brown being set or get the penalty. I'm guessing in a split second decision he decided it was worth a shot and hope the refs didn't notice it.
 

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And not that it shouldn't have been called, but I'll just say that that exact same scenario happens in nearly every NFL game without the officials calling it. Like holding, there never seems to be any rhyme or reason to when the NFL's zebras decide to blow a whistle at times
 

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I think some of aikman's criticisms are fair because dak is not, nor ever will be, a prototypical NFL quarterback. Dak can make all the throws, but not consistently. On the flip side, Dak has intangibles that are rarely seen.
 

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Seems like maybe his last twitch/move was squared up and towards the LOS instead of continuing across.


once he went into motion he could have stayed in motion till the ball was snapped. but he stopped and squared up to the line--but would have to be there and be set a full count to be legal.
 

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I normally like Troy and Collinsworth, but I watch 90% of every televised game, if 2 overlap I'll watch the NFC normally. But those two and the rest absolutely nit pick everything about Dak's game when they in no way do such in the other QB's and when plays well they'd rather remain silent as heep 2 ounces of praise on him. Oh they'll say he's a great guy, a great teammate, hell even a great leader. But that's stuff they could say about 80% of sixpackers, what they say about the QB who leads the NFC in wins in his 3 seasons is condescending at best.
 

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Aikman kills me. That bum’s stats aren’t Hall of Fame worthy. He rode a team full of Hall of Famers and Pro Bowl guys to 3 Super Bowls.
 

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Aikman kills me. That bum’s stats aren’t Hall of Fame worthy. He rode a team full of Hall of Famers and Pro Bowl guys to 3 Super Bowls.

Comparing QBs in the 90s to now is so unfair. In 1993, there were 3 QBs with a passer rating over 90; aikman was 2nd to Steve young at 99.0. This year there are 24 guys over 90 and 9 over 100. You could hit QBs and mug WRs then
 

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Comparing QBs in the 90s to now is so unfair. In 1993, there were 3 QBs with a passer rating over 90; aikman was 2nd to Steve young at 99.0. This year there are 24 guys over 90 and 9 over 100. You could hit QBs and mug WRs then

Nah it’s pretty fair. 1993 was by far Aikman’s best season. He only had 2 seasons with a rating over 90 in his career. Career average rating of 81. He was an overrated bum. He only had 1 season with more than 20 TDS. 1! Dak, who catches a ton of ****, has already had 3. Aikman made zero All Pro teams. He had 165 TD Passes to 141 Ints. Career completion % of 61. He’s not a Hall of Fame QB.
 

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Nah it’s pretty fair. 1993 was by far Aikman’s best season. He only had 2 seasons with a rating over 90 in his career. Career average rating of 81. He was an overrated bum. He only had 1 season with more than 20 TDS. 1! Dak, who catches a ton of ****, has already had 3. Aikman made zero All Pro teams. He had 165 TD Passes to 141 Ints. Career completion % of 61. He’s not a Hall of Fame QB.

John elway's career rating is 79.9.
Joe Montana's career rating is 92.3.
Dan Marino's career rating is 86.4.

If all those guys put up that rating this season, here's where that would rank...

Aikman = 30th
Elway = 30th
Montana = tied for 22nd
Marino = 27th

Does this give you an idea of how dumb comparing then to now is?
 

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Uh, he actually IS a HOF QB. You simply can't blindly compare QB stats from one era to another. The game has changed dramatically, even just in the last decade. A perfect example is Eli Manning. He's not a top 20 QB today, but his stats are in line with his stats from early in his career when he was easily a top 10 QB.
 

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Nah it’s pretty fair. 1993 was by far Aikman’s best season. He only had 2 seasons with a rating over 90 in his career. Career average rating of 81. He was an overrated bum. He only had 1 season with more than 20 TDS. 1! Dak, who catches a ton of ****, has already had 3. Aikman made zero All Pro teams. He had 165 TD Passes to 141 Ints. Career completion % of 61. He’s not a Hall of Fame QB.

When you're the QB of a team that wins 3 SBs in 4 years and you're the MVP of one of them, you're a Hall of Famer. You're kinda cherry picking stuff to make a case that he's a bum.

Success in the postseason is more important than success in the regular season and he was very good in those games playing against the best of the best.

ETA from what I can tell he made 6 consecutive Pro Bowl teams and was 2nd Team All Pro in the NFC behind either Young or Favre 3 times.
 
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When you're the QB of a team that wins 3 SBs in 4 years and you're the MVP of one of them, you're a Hall of Famer. You're kinda cherry picking stuff to make a case that he's a bum.

Success in the postseason is more important than success in the regular season and he was very good in those games playing against the best of the best.

ETA from what I can tell he made 6 consecutive Pro Bowl teams and was 2nd Team All Pro in the NFC behind either Young or Favre 3 times.

I’m not cherry picking ****. That’s his career stats. That’s not true. It’s full body of work. Eli Manning is borderline too and him having 2 rings is the only reason why he’s in the discussion. Nick Foles has a super bowl MVP. He’s not a Hall of Famer either.
 
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I’m not cherry picking ****. That’s his career stats. That’s not true. It’s full body of work. Eli Manning is borderline too and him having 2 rings is the only reason why he’s in the discussion. Nick Foles has a super bowl MVP. He’s not a Hall of Famer either.

Yeah, you are. Nick Foles had a great run and can be a very good QB, but he hasn't been the leader of the best team in football for a number of years like Aikman was in the mid 90's. I'll let others decide on Eli, he's a tough case. Aikman is not.
 

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Uh, he actually IS a HOF QB. You simply can't blindly compare QB stats from one era to another. The game has changed dramatically, even just in the last decade. A perfect example is Eli Manning. He's not a top 20 QB today, but his stats are in line with his stats from early in his career when he was easily a top 10 QB.

I’m not. I’m compared one thing to Dak. That’s it. I’m comparing him to other QBs in his era. The Dallas Cowboys were the best and most talented team in the NFL for most of the 90s. He threw for 20 TDS once in his career. He had 165 TDS to 141 Intercpetions with 9 rushing TDs and 58 fumbles. He had more turnovers than TDs in his career and he played for the best team in the NFL.

For comparison Steve Young lost 5-6 years of his career in Tampa and being behind Montana. He went on to throw for 20+ TDS 5 times in his career. Young also threw for 232 TDS and 107 interceptions. He also started 22 less games than Aikman.
 

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Troy Aikman is Brad Johnson on a better team.

You could make that type of comparison about any number of Hall of Famers. You need to be on the right team, get an opportunity, and then perform. Aikman did.

If Dak is drafted by another team he might not have started an NFL game yet.
 
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