Alabama freaking blows.

Hanmudog

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You absolutely do not have to guard them outside the three point line. They make our offense look like the Showtime Lakers.
 

Hanmudog

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You absolutely do not have to guard them outside the three point line. They make our offense look like the Showtime Lakers.
 

MsuDogfan12

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They may be shooting lower than 10% from 3pt range. Hope they shoot like this when we play them in T-Town soon.
 

JulesWinfield

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That's good because we don't guard anybody beyond the 3 point line anyway. Our guards are so soft and so scared of being picked at the top of the key that they cheat and try to run around and leave guys wide open.
 
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Neither are very good offensively. Both are big and physical. I think Bama has more talent and OM is more prone to "mental lapses" and such, but neither are what I'd call very good.

I know its against OM, but the poetic justice of the Bama fans being outraged over not getting every call imaginable in a sporting event is a nice touch to this game.
 

Coach34

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it's they cant shoot from outside...Releford is a slasher that struggles from deep...their other guards are young and struggling...Steele is their best shooter, but he has only been back for 8 games...<div>
</div><div>They shoot 27% as a team, and they get better looks than we do- they just struggle</div>
 

Hanmudog

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Coach34 said:
it's they cant shoot from outside...Releford is a slasher that struggles from deep...their other guards are young and struggling...Steele is their best shooter, but he has only been back for 8 games...<div>
</div><div>They shoot 27% as a team, and they get better looks than we do- they just struggle</div>
That is a load of ****. They are open because no one is guarding them and sagging back in the lane on Green. If our offense looked like theirs you would lose your mind. They do the same pass it around the perimeter offense against this Ole Miss zone that we do.
 
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Completely dominate Bama in the 1st half with stifling man to man defense that leads to playing intense basketball? Check. Switch to zone in the second half for no reason to compensate for being so unfair to Bama in the first half so that Bama can win the game? check.
 

Coach34

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I said- "the problem is not the offense they run"<div>
</div><div>You said- "<span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; ">They are open because no one is guarding them"</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; ">
</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; ">
</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; ">So we agree that they are getting open looks- that's all you can ask for as a coach...now, if they were having to throw up 25 foot 3's at the end of the shot clock quite often (like another team I know of), then you could blame the coach</span></div>
 

Forrest4Moore

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Except for Cal, has any other coach come in to the conference during Stans tenure and proved to be a better coach than Stans? Stans has lasted longer than similar counterparts in Brady, Gottfried, and Lebo. Pelphrey and Pearl are both gone. Trent Johnson has done nothing since his first year. Grant has yet to do anything of note, and seemingly won't this year. Obviously, Kennedy has yet to even make the tourney. Donovan is Donovan and USCe and UGA have done nothing in a decade. Stallings is basically on par with Stans accomplishment wise.

Just wondering when the love fest with mid-major coaches will end. And I pray we make the Sweet 16 just to shut our fan base up.

1a. Calipari
1b. Donovan
3a. Stallings
3b. Stans

There's a big gap from there to anyone else.

Not meant to be a thread hijack.
 

RocketCityDawg

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(Translate that to mean: Al Quida vs Taliban) Which W for either of these spawn-of-Satan would best elevate our MSU condition?
That's my only interest.
 

Hanmudog

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I did not agree with you. You said they were open because of the offense they run. I said they were open because defenses sag off them and pack the middle because they cannot shoot a lick. Their "offense" is painful to even watch. <div>
</div><div>Don't get me wrong. I like Grant alot. He is a great defensive coach. However, they have underachieved as much as any team in the SEC so far this year.</div>
 

Coach34

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<span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">"Just wondering when the love fest with mid-major coaches will end. And I pray we make the Sweet 16 just to shut our fan base up."</span><br style="min-width: 0px; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><br style="min-width: 0px; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">1a. Calipari- took mid-major UMass to the national title game</span><br style="min-width: 0px; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">1b. Donovan- came from mid-major Marshall to Florida</span><br style="min-width: 0px; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">3a. Stallings- came from mid-major Illinois St to Vandy</span><br style="min-width: 0px; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">3b. Stans</span>
 

QuaoarsKing

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We can list ones who didn't on and on... (John Brady, John Pelphrey, Stan Heath, Mark Fox, Jeff Lebo, Tony Barbee, Cuonzo Martin, Anthony Grant, Mark Gottfried, etc.)<div>Those are just off the top of my head. Random mid major coaches have a pretty low success rate in the SEC.</div>
 

Coach34

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QuaoarsKing said:
We can list ones who didn't on and on... (John Brady, John Pelphrey, Stan Heath, Mark Fox, Jeff Lebo, Tony Barbee, Cuonzo Martin, Anthony Grant, Mark Gottfried, etc.)<div>Those are just off the top of my head. Random mid major coaches have a pretty low success rate in the SEC.</div>
John Brady won 2 SEC titles, and went to the Sweet 16 and a Final Four<div>Mark Fox? He is doing a good job</div><div>Tony Barbee? He took over the a worse situation than Freeze has at Mississippi</div><div>Cuonzo Martin? Wtf? Guy hasnt even coached a full season</div><div>Anthony Grant has improved Bama every season so far</div><div>Mark Gottfried didnt work out? Seriously? He was fired with a winning record.</div><div>
</div><div>Random mid major coaches have a pretty low success rate in the SEC.
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</div><div>Billy Donovan, Stallings, Pearl, Brady, Gottfried, Tubby Smith, Nolan Richardson, Eddie Fogler- SEC's most successful coaches in the last 20 years came from mid-majors for the most part</div><div>
</div><div>You need to remember it took The Recruiter 4 seasons to make an NCAA Tourney before discounting some of these guys as failures already</div>
 

Chesusdog

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squirldawg

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programs. There is much more to sell or buy at most other SEC programs. <div id="isChromeWebToolbarDiv" style="display:none"></div>
 

patdog

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No matter how ridiculous or how farfetched, you're going to twist the facts to try to make any coach other than Stans look like a worldbeater and try to make Stans look like the worst coach in the conference. Grant's in his THIRD season now, 6th overall, he only has a 1-2 record in the NCAA tournament, and Bama's getting worse instead of better under him. Yet somehow, he's a better coach than Stans.
 

Ol Blue.sixpack

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which says a lot about how common the league is.<div>
  • Since Trent Johnson took Brady's talent on a silver platter in a watered down league, LSU has been one of the worst programs major college programs in the country going 35-50 (8-32). I sense that if he doesn't get to .500 in the league, LSU may be conducting another search.
  • Darin Horn was on the hot seat going into his final season at WKU until he parlayed a half court shot into a lucrative deal at SC. Why schools do that I will never know, but he is showing why he was on the hot seat at WKU. He wouldn't make the end of the season if it wasn't so close to the end
  • Fox at Georgia is pulling a Trent Johnson. Once the talent on hand exited, so did his "brilliance".
  • Stallings' teams have always played soft. This year is really no different. His PG is out of his league against athletic players which spells trouble for the Commodores. He's not on thin ice yet, but he ground is shaky.
  • I thought I was watching Upward basketball last night with the Tide and the Rebs down the stretch. That was awful. How glad are Gator fans that Donovan came back to UF?
  • I'm not sure about Barbee. It's Auburn.
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so I still pull for them when they aren't playing MSU and do not harbor the hatred that most MSU fans (or Ole Miss fans from the other side for that matter) seem to think is necessary in this rivalry. I catch plenty of hell for it, but its been my stance on the 2 schools since the first day I set foot on campus in Starkville. No reason to go changing now.