Alec Baldwin kills someone on movie set

[stuway]

Whatever it is you think you're railing against, it's not half as bad as whatever leftist ignorance you've uncritically embibed yourself with which makes you think people here are celebrating what happened, view it as antyhing but the horrible tragedy it is, because of "politics."

Alec is a complete POS, simple as that... bad politics or good.

I'm railing against the ignorant. As I said above, I hate both political parties, they are both evil. You assume just because I disagree with you that I'm if a different than you regarding politics. This has nothing to do with politics. Someone died here. Only the truly ignorant politicize a pandemic and a tragic death.
This is why I hate politics, we are all Americans on the same side. Now people bring real hate into politics it's scarey and sad.
Both political parties suck and are evil. Those who follow one or the other blindly are sheep. Baaaa baaa blind sheep

 

[berniecarbo]

No really. That’s why you hire people who know more than you.

When handling firearms, someone could die. That's why you put in the effort to learn basics. You don't have to become an expert.

 

[TortElvisII]

Just glad that Alec Baldwin doesn't have access to prop nuke codes on a movie set.

I hope Samantha Bee and Tina Fey are in Baldwin's next movies.

 

[SDC8888]

Just wondering who you are a reincarnation of?

You only live once Edstein, but yes, it's indicative of brainwashed deluded politics to presume the political other celebrates bad things happening to you because they are the bad people.

It's not the political other that does that, it's bad people that do that, like leftists celebrated Rush's death and others.

They took so much gratitude in his death, you'd think they'll throw parades on the anniversaries, but I see no evidence anyone here took "joy" in this tragedy like you assume.

I'm railing against the ignorant. As I said above, I hate both political parties, they are both evil. You assume just because I disagree with you that I'm if a different than you regarding politics. This has nothing to do with politics. Someone died here. Only the truly ignorant politicize a pandemic and a tragic death.
This is why I hate politics, we are all Americans on the same side. Now people bring real hate into politics it's scarey and sad.
Both political parties suck and are evil. Those who follow one or the other blindly are sheep. Baaaa baaa blind sheep

Ok, then be part of the solution, not further contribution to the problem. Alec Baldwin was part of the problem.

The assumptions all around are incorrect.

 

[TortElvisII]

Society is at fault because Hollywood millionaires enjoy pointing weaponry at the crew and pulling the trigger. How does our society fix this?

 

[bigsmoothie]

When handling firearms, someone could die. That's why you put in the effort to learn basics. You don't have to become an expert.

So knowing the basics you would know if it was a live round and a blank?

 

[TortElvisII]

So knowing the basics you would know if it was a live round and a blank?

No, he wouldn't point it towards the crew and pull the trigger.

 

[bigsmoothie]

Society is at fault because Hollywood millionaires enjoy pointing weaponry at the crew and pulling the trigger. How does our society fix this?

No, he wouldn't point it towards the crew and pull the trigger.

So you don’t think a prop gun is ever pointed towards the camera or maybe the director setting up a shot?

 

[TortElvisII]

So you don’t think a prop gun is ever pointed towards the camera or maybe the director setting up a shot?

My favorite part of a Western is when there's a showdown and they shoot the director or the producer. You're unreal.

 

[berniecarbo]

So knowing the basics you would know if it was a live round and a blank?

Yes, you should. Typically a blank will not have a projectile at the end, instead it will be crimped. Since a blank round can also kill if fired close enough to the target, I'd inspect the weapon even with blanks.

 

[bigsmoothie]

My favorite part of a Western is when there's a showdown and they shoot the director or the producer. You're unreal.

Yes, you should. Typically a blank will not have a projectile at the end, instead it will be crimped. Since a blank round can also kill if fired close enough to the target, I'd inspect the weapon even with blanks.

If you were military yes I bet you would know. Most other people no

 

[TortElvisII]

The gaffer got it.

 

[berniecarbo]

If you were military yes I bet you would know. Most other people no

And that is why if I were an actor, handling something potentially dangerous to my fellow man, I'd take time to learn to recognize what was in my weapon. I guess he was to important to do something that took a very tiny bit of his precious time, though he was going to handle it daily during the making of the movie (and likely past movies).

 

[Backer cutter]

If you were military yes I bet you would know. Most other people no

So your average deer hunter is loading his or her weapon, and don’t notice the shell they pop into the chamber doesn’t have a projectile? Seriously? Lol.

 

[bigsmoothie]

And that is why if I were an actor, handling something potentially dangerous to my fellow man, I'd take time to learn to recognize what was in my weapon. I guess he was to important to do something that took a very tiny bit of his precious time, though he was going to handle it daily during the making of the movie (and likely past movies).

I give up.

 

[bigsmoothie]

So your average deer hunter is loading his or her weapon, and don’t notice the shell they pop into the chamber doesn’t have a projectile? Seriously? Lol.

I don’t hunt. Do you often buy shells without projectiles?

 

[Backer cutter]

I don’t hunt. Do you often buy shells without projectiles?

Never would have figured that one out.

 

[berniecarbo]

I reckon this thread highlights the difference in a lib and a conservative. A lib says someone else should take responsibility. A conservative says the individual has responsibility.

 

[Beatle Bum]

If you were military yes I bet you would know. Most other people no

The prop person should know, right?

 

[Beatle Bum]

And that is why if I were an actor, handling something potentially dangerous to my fellow man, I'd take time to learn to recognize what was in my weapon. I guess he was to important to do something that took a very tiny bit of his precious time, though he was going to handle it daily during the making of the movie (and likely past movies).

Baldwin has a lot of experience with movies and props. I suspect he knows the difference between the look of a blank and the look of live ammo.

 

[bigsmoothie]

Baldwin has a lot of experience with movies and props. I suspect he knows the difference between the look of a blank and the look of live ammo.

And he’s probably used to working with prop people who know what they are paid to do.

 

[berniecarbo]

Baldwin has a lot of experience with movies and props. I suspect he knows the difference between the look of a blank and the look of live ammo.

If so, did he negligently fail to inspect his weapon?

 

[bigsmoothie]

The prop person should know, right?

I would hope so. It’s their job to know

 

[Beatle Bum]

And he’s probably used to working with prop people who know what they are paid to do.

Agreed. But, neither you nor I know if Baldwin was present when the gun was loaded. Why are you trying so hard to defend Baldwin on every little comment? Are you in his fan club?

 

[bigsmoothie]

If so, did he negligently fail to inspect his weapon?

If you borrow someone’s car do you inspect it before you drive it? If you have surgery do you inspect the doctors tools?

 

[Beatle Bum]

If so, did he negligently fail to inspect his weapon?

I don’t know if he had the duty to inspect. I suspect not. But, if he was present when it was loaded, he could be liable. We are talking live ammo when everyone should have known it was to be a blank. He is pulling the trigger at another person.

 

[bigsmoothie]

Agreed. But, neither you nor I know if Baldwin was present when the gun was loaded. Why are you trying so hard to defend Baldwin on every little comment? Are you in his fan club?

I actually don’t care for him at all.

 

[berniecarbo]

Agreed. But, neither you nor I know if Baldwin was present when the gun was loaded. Why are you trying so hard to defend Baldwin on every little comment? Are you in his fan club?

One of the first things you learn in BASIC gun safety classes is ALWAYS assume the gun is loaded, even if you watched someone else. When you accept the gun, it becomes your responsibility.

 

[Beatle Bum]

One of the first things you learn in BASIC gun safety classes is ALWAYS assume the gun is loaded, even if you watched someone else. When you accept the gun, it becomes your responsibility.

I was taught never point any gun at another, unless you plan to shoot that person, even if you think it unloaded. Even if your shotgun is broken, I was taught to hold the gun toward the ground.

But, I am not sure actors on sets should worry that their prop gun has live ammo. Not saying either way. I just don’t know.

 

[Backer cutter]

If you borrow someone’s car do you inspect it before you drive it? If you have surgery do you inspect the doctors tools?

Only during a colonoscopy. Have to see if it needs sharpening.

 

[Backer cutter]

By the way, thought you gave up?

 

[berniecarbo]

If you borrow someone’s car do you inspect it before you drive it? If you have surgery do you inspect the doctors tools?

Not even remotely the same thing. Your man Baldwin proves to be clueless about firearms, but wants to take them from others? Maybe he should have a clue what he's talking about before opining about or handling them?

 

[IdaCat]

If you were military yes I bet you would know. Most other people no

No, anybody who handles a gun assumes the responsibility of knowing basic gun safety. This was not a toy, obviously. It was a real gun capable of deadly force, duh. A blank vs a bullet is also obvious. Even a blank can be dangerous and you should NOT fire a blank directly at a person. Look it up. Learn something.

The fact that you don't know these basics is clear. Don't ever touch a gun.

 

[roguemocha]

So your average deer hunter is loading his or her weapon, and don’t notice the shell they pop into the chamber doesn’t have a projectile? Seriously? Lol.

Baldwin has a lot of experience with movies and props. I suspect he knows the difference between the look of a blank and the look of live ammo.

I lean conservative and own plenty of guns. I would always act as if a gun were loaded. But if I were an actor that’s held hundreds of guns and shot hundreds of blanks that he doesn’t load or is expected to check I wouldn’t check it either probably. They probably screw around like that all the time on set. To lay the blame at his feet is dumb. I’m sure all the hundreds of actors and extras in saving private Ryan we’re all expected to know how to and to double check their Ammo….

It’s an accident and it’s not his “fault”.

 

[IdaCat]

Edstein is as ignorant about guns as baldwin. He also loses his **** and tries to derail every gun thread posted on this board. Same ignorant, radical gun hating dumbassery.

 

[Beatle Bum]

Yeah, @Ed323232, this is some ironic ugliness. Agree?

It’s a tough question for a fan. I understand.

 

[Backer cutter]

I lean conservative and own plenty of guns. I would always act as if a gun were loaded. But if I were an actor that’s held hundreds of guns and shot hundreds of blanks that he doesn’t load or is expected to check I wouldn’t check it either probably. They probably screw around like that all the time on set. To lay the blame at his feet is dumb. I’m sure all the hundreds of actors and extras in saving private Ryan we’re all expected to know how to and to double check their Ammo….

It’s an accident and it’s not his “fault”.

The only takeaway I got from your post is you own lots of guns, huh. Maybe, have an auction soon. They say the Tropics are nice this time of year, enjoy. Ps, glad you will be weapon less upon your return.

 

[TortElvisII]

I lean conservative and own plenty of guns.

False and I hope not.

 

[roguemocha]

The only takeaway I got from your post is you own lots of guns, huh. Maybe, have an auction soon. They say the Tropics are nice this time of year, enjoy. Ps, glad you will be weapon less upon your return.

Why would I be weaponless when I get back?

False and I hope not.

And true. You all are seeing things from just your life and perspective. How come the guy that shot Brandon Lee wasn’t charged? If you don’t like Baldwin fine, I dont give a **** either way but to act like he’s a murderer is ridiculous.

Actors point guns at cameras, other actors/extras, directors, etc. There shouldnt have live ammo on set period, why would an actor think there was live ammo?

 

[TortElvisII]

Why would I be weaponless when I get back?

And true. You all are seeing things from just your life and perspective. How come the guy that shot Brandon Lee wasn’t charged? If you don’t lie Baldwin fine, I dont give a **** either way but to act like he’s a murderer is ridiculous.

Why is a gun being pointed at the crew? Why was the trigger pulled? You do understand that when a movie is made there's a tremendous difference in a scene between two actors and someone on the crew being involved.