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Chazz Michael Michaels

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for potential HC Hire.

Here's mine:

1. Kirby Smart, UAlabama DC
2. Tom Herman, UHouston HC
3. Matt Rhule, Temple HC
4. Matt Campbell, Toledo HC
5. Justin Fuente, Memphis HC

Others of lesser consideration: Doug Nussmeier UF OC, Rod Carey NIU, RRod?, Philip Montgomery Tulsa HC
 
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Chazz Michael Michaels said:
for potential HC Hire.

Here's mine:

1. Kirby Smart, UAlabama DC
2. Tom Herman, UHouston HC
3. Matt Rhule, Temple HC
4. Matt Campbell, Toledo HC
5. Justin Fuente, Memphis HC

Others of lesser consideration: Doug Nussmeier UF OC, Rod Carey NIU, RRod?, Philip Montgomery Tulsa HC
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Rich Rod....although I would love to see it happen.....won't happen here ever again. Too many people won't just let it go and bring him back. I believe that he would come back in a heartbeat and would have a feeling of something to "prove" to everyone, which would equate to us getting back to where we were in 2007.

Besides him, the ones in your list that I have reservations about:

1. Matt Rhule - Temple......simply because of what Al Golden could NOT do at Miami, has me concerned
2. Tom Herman - Houston....we don't need another "Dana"
3. Kirby Smart - Alabama....he's been around for a while, yet hasn't gotten a big time job....makes me scratch my head.


I guess what I would like is for someone with experience, someone that's been to the big time. Someone like........

JIM TRESSEL
 
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1: Doc Holliday
2: Rich Rodriguez
3: Lincoln Riley
4: Al Golden
5: Chris Ash

I listed WV natives at top, because the odds of them leaving for a bigger program after having success is smaller. Golden is a good coach, but was given a tough situation in Miami. Lincoln Riley is a potential big time HC, but would bail on us after success. Ash is a gamble, but could be great. However, he would leave after success as well. New AD means both Doc and Rod would consider coming back.
 
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LOL. Tressel ball would get run right out of the Big 12.

The correct hire is Doug Meacham.
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I would go with another Patterson disciple in Fuente.
Others...
Brohm
Smart (familiarity with Lyons lends itself to this one imo, although i am leary of no experience as a HC)
Doc (his connections in Fla would help keep that pipeline intact)
Ideally I'd like someone that has had a few years at the helm of a team...
 
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all decent choices. i also like al golden. he was given a raw deal at miami, from the beginning. he would recruit this area well
 
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Chazz Michael Michaels said:
for potential HC Hire.

Here's mine:

1. Kirby Smart, UAlabama DC
2. Tom Herman, UHouston HC
3. Matt Rhule, Temple HC
4. Matt Campbell, Toledo HC
5. Justin Fuente, Memphis HC

Others of lesser consideration: Doug Nussmeier UF OC, Rod Carey NIU, RRod?, Philip Montgomery Tulsa HC
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other than the fact he coaches at Bama (yes, that is a plus), what makes Smart show up on so many of these type of lists? Bama wins with better talent. Can he recruit that type of talent to WV? Whoever we get, recruiting needs to be a strong suit.
PS - RRod will never coach at WVU again because there are many like me who would drop their season tickets (which I have held for 28 years and counting).
 
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JIMEER86 said:
other than the fact he coaches at Bama (yes, that is a plus), what makes Smart show up on so many of these type of lists? Bama wins with better talent. Can he recruit that type of talent to WV? Whoever we get, recruiting needs to be a strong suit.
PS - RRod will never coach at WVU again because there are many like me who would drop their season tickets (which I have held for 28 years and counting).
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PS - There are many out there that would gladly swoop in and gobble up your dropped season tickets if he came back. Trust me.
 
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I didnt' think of Al Golden. That is interesting. He had a tough situation at Miami but then again,
you should still be able to win there. But, he won elsewhere. Not sure how he's viewed now in Florida.
Could he still recruit strong there?
 
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Chazz Michael Michaels said:
I didnt' think of Al Golden. That is interesting. He had a tough situation at Miami but then again,
you should still be able to win there. But, he won elsewhere. Not sure how he's viewed now in Florida.
Could he still recruit strong there?
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No. If we fire Dana and hire Al Golden, I'll be really pissed off. That is a lateral hire at best.
 
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In no order of preference:

Doc Holiday - knows the culture and challenges - with the right coordinators would do well
Al Golden - he will be a winner in the right situation
Lane Kiffin - A bit of a gamble but I would bet he's matured and learned a lot about leading a program under Saban
Jeff Brohm - knows the region and I like his style
Justin Fuente - like his pedigree but I'm betting he will be hard to get
 
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It's fine to pass time by offering up our choices, but no one here is in a position to really make a sound decision. We don't have the knowledge or the means to get the knowledge to distinguish among people who meet the equivalent of the posted job qualifications.

That's why process is so important and why our last two hires were very poorly done. You could have multiple candidates who, on paper, look equally qualified. That's where due diligence begins. We can't inquire in the coaching club and find out what their bosses or former bosses think about them and what they see as their strengths and weaknesses. We don't know about temperament or personality issues that may be good or bad signs.

We employ people to make these decisions (and they often will seek out others with more specific expertise of he game and first-hand knowledge of the candidates).

I can say what we absolutely should not do. We shouldn't let one person have all the authority to sign us with a flavor of the month "hot commodity" because he hopes to make himself look smart. We'll pay the price when it turns out he isn't so smart about such things and failed to do proper vetting and due diligence.

We need to do this one the same way a corporation with close to $100 million dollars in annual revenue would hire a top executive who could literally make or break the company, not the way we have been doing it.
 
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It's fine to pass time by offering up our choices, but no one here is in a position to really make a sound decision. We don't have the knowledge or the means to get the knowledge to distinguish among people who meet the equivalent of the posted job qualifications.

That's why process is so important and why our last two hires were very poorly done. You could have multiple candidates who, on paper, look equally qualified. That's where due diligence begins. We can't inquire in the coaching club and find out what their bosses or former bosses think about them and what they see as their strengths and weaknesses. We don't know about temperament or personality issues that may be good or bad signs.

We employ people to make these decisions (and they often will seek out others with more specific expertise of he game and first-hand knowledge of the candidates).

I can say what we absolutely should not do. We shouldn't let one person have all the authority to sign us with a flavor of the month "hot commodity" because he hopes to make himself look smart. We'll pay the price when it turns out he isn't so smart about such things and failed to do proper vetting and due diligence.

We need to do this one the same way a corporation with close to $100 million dollars in annual revenue would hire a top executive who could literally make or break the company, not the way we have been doing it.
 
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Low Mountains Drifter said:
It's fine to pass time by offering up our choices, but no one here is in a position to really make a sound decision. We don't have the knowledge or the means to get the knowledge to distinguish among people who meet the equivalent of the posted job qualifications.

That's why process is so important and why our last two hires were very poorly done. You could have multiple candidates who, on paper, look equally qualified. That's where due diligence begins. We can't inquire in the coaching club and find out what their bosses or former bosses think about them and what they see as their strengths and weaknesses. We don't know about temperament or personality issues that may be good or bad signs.

We employ people to make these decisions (and they often will seek out others with more specific expertise of he game and first-hand knowledge of the candidates).

I can say what we absolutely should not do. We shouldn't let one person have all the authority to sign us with a flavor of the month "hot commodity" because he hopes to make himself look smart. We'll pay the price when it turns out he isn't so smart about such things and failed to do proper vetting and due diligence.

We need to do this one the same way a corporation with close to $100 million dollars in annual revenue would hire a top executive who could literally make or break the company, not the way we have been doing it.
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just having fun. not sure anyone thinks the next coach will be picked on this board :)
 
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"This whole conversation bothers me..."
- Herm Edwards (possibly under consideration for the USC HC opening)

 
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Chazz Michael Michaels said:
for potential HC Hire.

Here's mine:

1. Kirby Smart, UAlabama DC
2. Tom Herman, UHouston HC
3. Matt Rhule, Temple HC
4. Matt Campbell, Toledo HC
5. Justin Fuente, Memphis HC

Others of lesser consideration: Doug Nussmeier UF OC, Rod Carey NIU, RRod?, Philip Montgomery Tulsa HC
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I'm hearing the following names:
  1. Mark Mangino (won big at Kansas)
  2. Terry Bowden
  3. Houston Nutt
  4. Gene Chizik (won national title)
 
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Chazz Michael Michaels said:
for potential HC Hire.

Here's mine:

1. Kirby Smart, UAlabama DC
2. Tom Herman, UHouston HC
3. Matt Rhule, Temple HC
4. Matt Campbell, Toledo HC
5. Justin Fuente, Memphis HC

Others of lesser consideration: Doug Nussmeier UF OC, Rod Carey NIU, RRod?, Philip Montgomery Tulsa HC
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What about Brent Venables? He has done really well turning Clemson's defense into a force and he has Big 12 pedigree.
 
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Knows WVU & Region:
1. Rich Rodriguez
2. Doc Holiday
3. Terry Bowden
4. Bo Pelini
5. Tom Bradley

Non-Power Conference Coaches or Coordinators:
1. Justin Fuente
2. Tom Herman
3. Matt Campbell
4. Larry Johnson
5. Matt Rhule

Other Good Coaches:
1. Gene Chizik
2. Mike Munchak
3. Mike Leach
4. Dave Johnson
5. Larry Fedora
 
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CaptainSidneyReilly said:
Knows WVU & Region:
1. Rich Rodriguez
2. Doc Holiday
3. Terry Bowden
4. Bo Pelini
5. Tom Bradley

Non-Power Conference Coaches or Coordinators:
1. Justin Fuente
2. Tom Herman
3. Matt Campbell
4. Larry Johnson
5. Matt Rhule

Other Good Coaches:
1. Gene Chizik
2. Mike Munchak
3. Mike Leach
4. Dave Johnson
5. Larry Fedora
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What ties does Bo Pelini have with the region?
 
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Gene "Blind Squirrel" Chizik bought a title when he paid for Heisman winner Cam Newton. After Cam left, Auburn promptly went into the crapper. Chizik's teams were undisciplined, out of control train wrecks.
 
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LOL - the trolls and low information fans have moved on from doing a message board firing to doing a message board hiring. What is next - a message board national championship? Any doubt that this is a free idiot board?
 
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wbgvwbgv said:
LOL - the trolls and low information fans have moved on from doing a message board firing to doing a message board hiring. What is next - a message board national championship? Any doubt that this is a free idiot board?
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I just don't understand these types of posts. Judge much? What is the point of this board in your opinion? Discussion? Community? Or is it just some sad attempt by "true fans" to set themselves apart and feel superior to others? I've got a headache trying to understand what goes on in here. I came for discussion, but it's hidden under lots of BS like this post.
 
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WVex-pat in GA said:
Mark Stoops, and don't say we can't get him. If PSU could get Franklin from Vandy, we can get Stoops from UK.
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Connections matter. Could see Lyons using personal connections like with amm
wbgvwbgv said:
LOL - the trolls and low information fans have moved on from doing a message board firing to doing a message board hiring. What is next - a message board national championship? Any doubt that this is a free idiot board?
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I am neither a troll nor a "low information" fan. I simply asked from a fan's perspective, what would your top five choices be for a potential hiring. That's it. This is a message board. How is that not a topic.
If you don't like it, take your pretentious self and move on. You have almost 8,000 posts - does that mean you have a superior intellect because you spend more of your time posting on the internet while others are busy with a career and their family?
 
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Chazz Michael Michaels said:
Connections matter. Could see Lyons using personal connections like with amm

I am neither a troll nor a "low information" fan. I simply asked from a fan's perspective, what would your top five choices be for a potential hiring. That's it. This is a message board. How is that not a topic.
If you don't like it, take your pretentious self and move on. You have almost 8,000 posts - does that mean you have a superior intellect because you spend more of your time posting on the internet while others are busy with a career and their family?
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I like the thread, thanks for posting it.
 
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Boomboom521 said:
What ties does Bo Pelini have with the region?
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He is a Youngstown Boy with Tressel and Stoop Brothers knows most of the Ohio, PA and WV River Towns. WVU is an Excellent Program and University and will attract a very good coach.

Dana is not a bad coach but coaches against some of the Best Coaches and Programs in the Nation within the Big-12! Bo would come in a minute!
 
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Pop Warner
Knute Rockne
Vince Lombardi
Doyt Perry
Tom Landry

Don't scoff, in the multi-verse it happened as soon as I typed this. Ain't science great?
 
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