Alternative theory on Sidney not going to Europe.

Hanmudog

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This may have already been mentioned but does anyone think it is possible that Stansbury realizes that Sidney is just not going to get his **** together and wanted to use the Europe trip as a way to get them used to playing together without him so he told him to stay home?

On a side note: Is the Latvian guy going to be able to play on the Europe trip?
 

Hanmudog

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This may have already been mentioned but does anyone think it is possible that Stansbury realizes that Sidney is just not going to get his **** together and wanted to use the Europe trip as a way to get them used to playing together without him so he told him to stay home?

On a side note: Is the Latvian guy going to be able to play on the Europe trip?
 

Hanmudog

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This may have already been mentioned but does anyone think it is possible that Stansbury realizes that Sidney is just not going to get his **** together and wanted to use the Europe trip as a way to get them used to playing together without him so he told him to stay home?

On a side note: Is the Latvian guy going to be able to play on the Europe trip?
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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Any out of season trip, such as this one, is voluntary by the student athlete.

Sidney wanted more time with Lucas, knowing that would do him more good than five games in Europe.

Other-side of the coin, we can now see how we will potentially do WITHOUT Sidney.
 

mstateglfr

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karlchilders said:
Any out of season trip, such as this one, is voluntary by the student athlete.

Sidney wanted more time with Lucas, knowing that would do him more good than five games in Europe.

Other-side of the coin, we can now see how we will potentially do WITHOUT Sidney.

I can't believe there are actually people who buy this story.

Take a look at the trip. See how many days it lasts. Now think about realistically how little someone can improve their shape/condition in that time. Now add to that the fact that the alternative isn't sitting on a couch getting fatter, instead it's playing a handful of games against solid competition and getting exercise each time.

You really think staying behind will make him any measurable difference better in terms of weight or conditioning? Come on.

He could play alongside his new teammates...ones he hasnt played with much at all since he had been in Houston all summer up till 10 days ago or so.

Why couldn't he have been in Houston from mid July until a day or two before the Euro trip and then join the team for it? There is no chance at all that what he would do during that time would be a significant improvement versus going on the trip and playing.
And why the hell couldn't he workout on his own in Europe during the days off to keep his routine up?...the same one that he would do in Houston?

Nope, obvious and logical ways to solve this 'situation' aren't acceptable. Instead, it should just be accepted that nobody thought even the slightest bit out of the box and showed Sidney and Stans that the current setup is dumb as hell as a cover story and even dumber as actual reality.
 

tenureplan

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Remember when he commited to us and lawyered up. His lawyer said that Europe was not an option. Maybe Sidney has a record or something that is preventing him from getting a passport.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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all that I'm saying is that the NCAA rules say that Sidney is NOT required to go on the Europe trip.

Visited this week, with a relative that is a MSU grad, that works in the AD at another Univ., and he verified to me that Sidney was notrequired to go on the trip. We had a full discussion about this situation.
 

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patdog

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Why do people continue to buy into the theory that this was Stans's idea? There's absolutely NO evidence to support that. And there's plenty to support that this was Sidney's decision. Stans screwed the pooch by not giving Sidney an ultimatum on this. You're either on this team or you're not. And if you're in Houston when we go to Europe, you're gonna stay in Houston. Stans will NEVER get the respect of the team he coaches, and this is why. I like him, and I appreciate what he's done for us, but unless this season turns out a lot different than I think it will, it's time for him to go.
 

jackstefano

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RS will not play for MSU this year. This comes from Renaldo's half-brother though, who's half crazie.
 

mstateglfr

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karlchilders said:
all that I'm saying is that the NCAA rules say that Sidney is NOT required to go on the Europe trip.

Visited this week, with a relative that is a MSU grad, that works in the AD at another Univ., and he verified to me that Sidney was notrequired to go on the trip. We had a full discussion about this situation.

That isn't at all all that you are saying.

You posted why he is in Houston too. And I responded to that comment.

It's a joke that he is there. He either messed up again, isn't allowed to go, and concocted this story to save face, or this actually is the genuine plan and it is the most ridiculously stupid plan ever concocted by a college basketball program. Either way, it is infuriating if you allow yourself to think about it for more than 2 minutess.

The team simply isn't overseas for a long enough period where Sidney could actually impove more stateside than while traveling.
Oh, and it was reported, by him, that he was running w whopping 3 miles a day and doing some 1 on 0 post work each day. Seriously, that can't be done on the trip during days off?!?!

Either way it's sliced and whatever the truth actually is, the story is batshit crazy and concocted by morons.
 

Shmuley

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I can believe it so easily. It would be just like this Mickey mouse basketball program to end up with essentially nothing in the middle. And the bury apologists will blame the inevitable suckitude on players who quit.
 

BoDawg.sixpack

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I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell he's not at least going to be on the court the first game. Now whether or not he'll make it to the end of the season without being booted is another debate.
 

Coach34

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mstateglfr said:
karlchilders said:
Any out of season trip, such as this one, is voluntary by the student athlete.

Sidney wanted more time with Lucas, knowing that would do him more good than five games in Europe.

Other-side of the coin, we can now see how we will potentially do WITHOUT Sidney.

I can't believe there are actually people who buy this story. Take a look at the trip. See how many days it lasts. Now think about realistically how little someone can improve their shape/condition in that time. Now add to that the fact that the alternative isn't sitting on a couch getting fatter, instead it's playing a handful of games against solid competition and getting exercise each time. You really think staying behind will make him any measurable difference better in terms of weight or conditioning? Come on. He could play alongside his new teammates...ones he hasnt played with much at all since he had been in Houston all summer up till 10 days ago or so. Why couldn't he have been in Houston from mid July until a day or two before the Euro trip and then join the team for it? There is no chance at all that what he would do during that time would be a significant improvement versus going on the trip and playing. And why the hell couldn't he workout on his own in Europe during the days off to keep his routine up?...the same one that he would do in Houston? Nope, obvious and logical ways to solve this 'situation' aren't acceptable. Instead, it should just be accepted that nobody thought even the slightest bit out of the box and showed Sidney and Stans that the current setup is dumb as hell as a cover story and even dumber as actual reality.
A. Dont practice your zone offense in the 6 weeks before the season starts and lose to Rider??? It's ok- The Recruiter will have them ready by SEC play

B. Dont have amodern strength program like other normal schools? It's ok-The Recruiter wins SEC West games

C.Constant transfers by key players? Its ok- The Recruiter will just bring in more

D. Players running the team and telling The Recruiter they arent going on the trip? It's ok- thats what The Recruiter really wanted instead of team-building and bonding

It just defies logic
 

Coach34

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BoDawg said:
I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell he's not at least going to be on the court the first game. Now whether or not he'll make it to the end of the season without being booted is another debate.
he can work on his game with Lucas, show out in pre-draft camps because there is no pressure, and doesnt chance playing the whole season and getting exposed.

If he plays well in the pre-draft camps- he'll get drafted- kidsdo it every season
 

patdog

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Sidney's a cancer on this team. We'd have been a lot better off if we'd never signed him.
 

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I am not saying it won't happen like that, but if it does it will end up costing him millions. NBA teams already know the kid can play, hell they have been watching him since his early high school days. Its is not about his skill level, but all about his attitude.
If he doesn't play in college this year then that will just go to show the guy is incapable of change and it will be hard for an NBA team to justify risking a couple million dollars on a guy that has not shown he can live up to his end of the bargain.

It still wouldn't surprise me if him didn't suit up for us again because as we have seen, the RSS is incapable of logical thinking.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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I'm neither for nor against Stansbury(like you).
You are so blinded by hate, that you can not be objective.
But we have know that.
 

Coach34

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obviously, playing this year and dominating would be the best thing he could do. BUT, he can easily get drafted even if he were to sit out this season and just go to the pre-draft camps and workouts. NBA teams will take chances on guys with talent. Pro sports teams do it every season. Ask Jamarcus Russell.

There is simply no predicting how all this is going to turn out- making it so Stansbury
 

Coach34

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karlchilders said:
I'm neither for nor against Stansbury(like you).
You are so blinded by hate, that you can not be objective.
But we have know that.

my post was 100% true
 

jackstefano

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Rosebowl said:
it will be hard for an NBA team to justify risking a couple million dollars on a guy that has not shown he can live up to his end of the bargain.
Yeah,that never happens.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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Coach34 said:
mstateglfr said:
karlchilders said:
Any out of season trip, such as this one, is voluntary by the student athlete.

Sidney wanted more time with Lucas, knowing that would do him more good than five games in Europe.

Other-side of the coin, we can now see how we will potentially do WITHOUT Sidney.

I can't believe there are actually people who buy this story. Take a look at the trip. See how many days it lasts. Now think about realistically how little someone can improve their shape/condition in that time. Now add to that the fact that the alternative isn't sitting on a couch getting fatter, instead it's playing a handful of games against solid competition and getting exercise each time. You really think staying behind will make him any measurable difference better in terms of weight or conditioning? Come on. He could play alongside his new teammates...ones he hasnt played with much at all since he had been in Houston all summer up till 10 days ago or so. Why couldn't he have been in Houston from mid July until a day or two before the Euro trip and then join the team for it? There is no chance at all that what he would do during that time would be a significant improvement versus going on the trip and playing. And why the hell couldn't he workout on his own in Europe during the days off to keep his routine up?...the same one that he would do in Houston? Nope, obvious and logical ways to solve this 'situation' aren't acceptable. Instead, it should just be accepted that nobody thought even the slightest bit out of the box and showed Sidney and Stans that the current setup is dumb as hell as a cover story and even dumber as actual reality.
A. Dont practice your zone offense in the 6 weeks before the season starts and lose to Rider??? It's ok- The Recruiter will have them ready by SEC play

B. Dont have amodern strength program like other normal schools? It's ok-The Recruiter wins SEC West games

C.Constant transfers by key players? Its ok- The Recruiter will just bring in more

D. Players running the team and telling The Recruiter they arent going on the trip? It's ok- thats what The Recruiter really wanted instead of team-building and bonding

It just defies logic
 

Coach34

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point out what I said that wasnt factual or stupid?

(psst, Karl...we all know you can't- and you were just throwing a little ***** fit because I'm always right about Stansbury and you people thinking he will actually do something big one day keep ending up wrong season after season. This season is already turning into a soap opera and we havent even started classes yet. So, let this go, quit pouting, and let's all just watch the upcoming drama that is Miss State basketball with Rick Stansbury)
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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I would hope that any of us could post without enduring his tyrant, or antibody's tyrant.
This **** is geting old.
 

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that some things he stated were factually incorrect. Although coach34 might be a complete retard, he's 100% correct on his statements on Stansbury and they aren't even debatable.

So if your statement calling him stupid was not implying that he was factually incorrect... then technically you just wasted a lot of time inserting yourself into this thread without offering anything more than an insult toward someone.
 

Coach34

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thats what morons do- he didnt like the facts being thrown in his face once aGAIN, and just reacted the way ignorant people react- with name-calling
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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just like many of his post...I'm not that radical about Stansbury...AND it gets old, very old.
I'm not a Stans fan, but not an enemy either.
 

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Resolved said:
Sid has a "smoking" problem. Or so I've heard.

So its obvious, but you have only heard?
I'd say that it's not an obvious theory.

Not saying it's wrong, since lots of college kids smoke and it seems lots of college athletes in football and baseball smoke, just saying it isn't obvious.

If all it takes to get sent to Lucas is smoking, the Augustus would have been there every summer.