has been there for only a short period of time, he seems to be gaining momentum in recruiting. Any chance that he could flip any of State's commitments? Sometimes when a player of Ward's stature is seen committing to the Rebels on national television, it can influence others in the state. I'm sure Coach Mullen will be alert to this possibility.Also, Issac Gross is having a career game tonight to go with MSU's big win in the Music City Bowl. Lots of positive publicity for the state of Mississippi!
Although Bear's coach Hugh Freeze.......................
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has been there for only a short period of time, he seems to be gaining momentum in recruiting. Any chance that he could flip any of State's commitments? Sometimes when a player of Ward's stature is seen committing to the Rebels on national television, it can influence others in the state. I'm sure Coach Mullen will be alert to this possibility.Also, Issac Gross is having a career game tonight to go with MSU's big win in the Music City Bowl. Lots of positive publicity for the state of Mississippi!
MSU has 25 guys on-board with three signed and enrolled for the spring with 3 to 4 spots left. tsun has 12-13 commits and if true lost a couple the last few days and added 1 Ward to a class of 12-13. When you have 4 times the number of spots to fill it will make the news.I think our guys remain strong based on twitter reports tonight!
Not really sure how he is gaining "momentum". The bears got a commitment from a player everyone knew they would get.
Plus you gotta realize that we only have a few spots left while the bears still have somewhere around 10-15. There will be a lot more bear recruiting news the next couple of weeks as they try to fill all of their of their open spots.
Plus you gotta realize that we only have a few spots left while the bears still have somewhere around 10-15. There will be a lot more bear recruiting news the next couple of weeks as they try to fill all of their of their open spots.
Last time I check (10 minutes ago) tsun is ranked last in the SEC and 67 in the nation in recruiting. Just because they got a guy whose brother they gave a scholarship to, and from tribal knowledge circulating, has been a paid employee of a certain bear owned natural resource company in his hometown since ninth grade, which I might add, he's never shown up a day for, yet collects paychecks. Oh, and by the way, did I mention they only have 13 commits as of January 5?...... Oh yeah, they must be a gaining a ton of momentum straight back to another 2 win season. Hope it all works out for him, what a shame...... but I guessed we never survived not signing barksdale, singleton, snoop, johnson, morris, burnetti, thompson, martin, golson, etc, etc, etc.... add him to the list. I'll take the last three, and a staff on which nobody has had to worry about there players catch menstrual cramps during the season. Oh yeah, which booster do you think fancy yorter is dressing like a sailor and pulling on his special hot dog for tonight?
And that doesn't even take into account the fact that I'tavious Mathers decommited from them. So drop out a 4 star recruit and they're back near #70 (which is where they were before Ward). They'll get Liggins, possibly Richie Brown, and the rest scraps. And Isaac Gross is reported to be looking around. Factor in all the speculation about grades casualties and their schedule next year and they are in a world of hurt.
Time for new material? Why do ya'll think it's some big accomplishment that Mullen and staff have a full class while OM only has 12-15? Hell, how long did OM go without anyone recruiting? I understand the hate, but at least be logical in your thinking, otherwise you just look desperate.
is due to not having anyone on the recruiting trail, not the 2 year dumpster fire.
And Gunter Brewer was on it the whole time. Seems the decision to put him on that job, that he couldnt see himself staying in, the debacle of the process that had you all screaming for big name coaches to come up with a former assistant fired 4 years ago, and keeping Boone in place considering what former athletes were saying about him, was FAR more detrimental that the idea you didnt have anyone out there to hear "no thanks sir".
And Gunter Brewer was on it the whole time. Seems the decision to put him on that job, that he couldnt see himself staying in, the debacle of the process that had you all screaming for big name coaches to come up with a former assistant fired 4 years ago, and keeping Boone in place considering what former athletes were saying about him, was FAR more detrimental that the idea you didnt have anyone out there to hear "no thanks sir".
gravedigger said:
I mean there's a good chance, as in all but one player for sure, but good chance we land Liggins, Jefferson, Brown, and Dawson. So before freeze we had two dd. After freeze we have six. I agree all this trash talking about how TSUN bearz not having a lot of commitments is dumb. Freeze was in four different states on the east coast in two days. The man does work. Our last staff didnt and it is showing a little now, but should be very apparent in coming years. And I know I know we TSUN dumpster fire bearz can have our recruiting championships, but good lord this board lit on fire right after Ward committed. You can't start a thread about an OM recruit and end it with "we don't care about recruiting"
Also I don't think you lead for Jefferson. It's 50/50 for R. Brown, but Liggins is all OM.
But you are correct Freeze is way out working Nutt, but Nutt just left him nothing at all. Plus you've lsot a couple or three commits from the coaching change. I'tavius Mathers, and Jake Meador have bailed this week. Picking up Channing was huge for you guys otherwise things could have really fallen apart. But Nutt has to get a little credit on the assist for letting Taurus walk-on.
But you are correct Freeze is way out working Nutt, but Nutt just left him nothing at all. Plus you've lsot a couple or three commits from the coaching change. I'tavius Mathers, and Jake Meador have bailed this week. Picking up Channing was huge for you guys otherwise things could have really fallen apart. But Nutt has to get a little credit on the assist for letting Taurus walk-on.
EAVdog said:
What I'm saying is I do think we lead for Jefferson and Brown. I know a lot of y'all think the same, but we'll just have to wait an see. And I also believe at the most, we end up only losing one out of Meador and Mathers. Once again you have every right to think differently, but come feb 2 I truly believe all this "freeze only has 12 commits on January" is going to sound extremely stupid.
I'm not implying that you'll end up with only 12. As of Tuesday AJ Jefferson said, and was quoted by Paul Jones, that State still has the edge. Now maybe Ole Miss gains ground but at best I'd say right now it's 50/50. Channing and Issac have made friends with AJ but so have Nick James, Quay, Cedric Jiles, etc... Right now I'd say Coach wilson gives usa slight edge.
As for Richie Brown, that guy is a total guess. I know he's made a few unofficial trips to Starkville to go hunting outside of campus, and I also know he has some familiarity with Freeze. Also Tennessee is still lurking, they did lose their LB Coach though. I'd say it's tooclose to call, if you wanted to say he was an Ole Miss lean I couldn't argue but I'd like to know why.
Realistically we have 3-5 Scholly's left. (assuming 2 don't make it for whatever reason, pure statistical speculation here). We've got Bo Wallace in play now, Beniquez Brown, Alonzo Moore, AJ Jefferson, and a couple others on the fringe. There is not much else we can do. That leaves a lot of pretty good players out there looking for SEC slots, as much as I'd like to see y'all end up with a terrible class you will end up in fine shape.
As for Richie Brown, that guy is a total guess. I know he's made a few unofficial trips to Starkville to go hunting outside of campus, and I also know he has some familiarity with Freeze. Also Tennessee is still lurking, they did lose their LB Coach though. I'd say it's tooclose to call, if you wanted to say he was an Ole Miss lean I couldn't argue but I'd like to know why.
Realistically we have 3-5 Scholly's left. (assuming 2 don't make it for whatever reason, pure statistical speculation here). We've got Bo Wallace in play now, Beniquez Brown, Alonzo Moore, AJ Jefferson, and a couple others on the fringe. There is not much else we can do. That leaves a lot of pretty good players out there looking for SEC slots, as much as I'd like to see y'all end up with a terrible class you will end up in fine shape.
...at SEC Media Days.
Funny how everybody has already forgotten this:
•Nutt was asked three times about Mississippi’s State’s “Our State” billboards that are up at every major roadway entering Mississippi. Nutt was asked if it affects his recruiting: “You checked recruiting this past season, right? It didn’t affect us. We had the best recruiting in the state of Mississippi.”
http://blogs.clarionledge...-its-finally-nutts-turn/
Funny how everybody has already forgotten this:
•Nutt was asked three times about Mississippi’s State’s “Our State” billboards that are up at every major roadway entering Mississippi. Nutt was asked if it affects his recruiting: “You checked recruiting this past season, right? It didn’t affect us. We had the best recruiting in the state of Mississippi.”
http://blogs.clarionledge...-its-finally-nutts-turn/
And time will tell if he was right with that statement. Hard to say who had the better 2011 class so far. I think we did, but we will find out soon enough.
..my point is OM consistently has better recruiting classes than MSU (at least according to website rankings). Then even the coach goes around talking smack about it at high profile events.
I think this is the first time in years MSU is destined to have a higher ranked recruiting class than OM (even though there is enough time left for Freeze to work some of that Oxford magic).
Having said that, I would be willing to bet in 2 years very few of your 2011 signees will be contributing to the University of Mississippi football program.
I think this is the first time in years MSU is destined to have a higher ranked recruiting class than OM (even though there is enough time left for Freeze to work some of that Oxford magic).
Having said that, I would be willing to bet in 2 years very few of your 2011 signees will be contributing to the University of Mississippi football program.
Coach34 said:
I'll go back and look at the rankings later, but as I've already said, rankings don't mean a thing. Perfect example is 09'. We may have finished a slot or two ahead of you but we took 70 kids? Anyone who follows recruiting can look at those two classes, even without attrition, ignoring the rankings, and looking at the individual players and see your class was much better
Coach34 said:
I can't speak for spirivals but I think we had better classes the past two years, while the three classes before those belonged to y'all. As I've said several times, viewing classes purely on what scout or rivals ranks them is asinine
UM picked up some very talented guys last year in Johnson, Moncrief, Brassell, Singleton, etc. Don't know how all these guys turn out but I know the Bears have a much better chance getting these guys to produce to their potential under a new coach than they ever had under Nutt. Getting the consensus best defensive HS player in the state 2 years in a row (CJ and Ward) certainly should eventually help bolster a currently pathetic defense. Ward should be solid but it will be interesting to see if CJ is ever anything more than a head case.
http://www.outreach.olemiss.edu/wintersession/General.html
Because of these 3 sessions, the only 3 weeks of the year that the Oxford campus is not hosting classes are basically from Dec. 11-Jan.2. This also explains why State'sfall and spring semester calendars are about a week ahead of Ole Miss.
Because of these 3 sessions, the only 3 weeks of the year that the Oxford campus is not hosting classes are basically from Dec. 11-Jan.2. This also explains why State'sfall and spring semester calendars are about a week ahead of Ole Miss.
...is the consensus best defensive HS player in the state.
Oh, I get it: When he signed with MSU, he immeidately forfeited that honor.
It's amazing the lengths some posters here will go to in order to help Mississippi build legacy myths around their recruiting classes.
It might make at least some sense if Mississippi would stop consistently fielding 3 win teams. Outstanding recruiting classes coming out of Oxford every year...look at all those gutsy freshmen. And look at those consensus best defensive HS players they signed 2 years in a row.
All that yet Mississippi still can't beat anybody, & is now the regular recipient of *** whippings in the Egg Bowl. Oh the unsolved mysteries.
Oh, I get it: When he signed with MSU, he immeidately forfeited that honor.
It's amazing the lengths some posters here will go to in order to help Mississippi build legacy myths around their recruiting classes.
It might make at least some sense if Mississippi would stop consistently fielding 3 win teams. Outstanding recruiting classes coming out of Oxford every year...look at all those gutsy freshmen. And look at those consensus best defensive HS players they signed 2 years in a row.
All that yet Mississippi still can't beat anybody, & is now the regular recipient of *** whippings in the Egg Bowl. Oh the unsolved mysteries.
most recruiting services and newspapers NOW have Ward the top defensive player in the state (likely because of Quay's problems with being removed from his team by his coach) but its certainly not a total consensus and Quay could very well end up being more dominating in college than Ward. Just admitting that Freeze does have a couple of big time defensive recruits to try and build something around in the future if he can come up with someone to coach them.
RonnyAtmosphere said:
It's really easy to see why our team sucked the last two years, and it was largely based on talent issues resulting from an undersigned 2007 class, a transition 2008 class that no one thought was very good, and a 2009 class that had way too much attrition.
When you start piling up underachieving classes, you lose football games.
I'm sure you understand that. When you start putting together classes with enough quality players, you win football games.
We've got to graduate some thin classes and run off some bad apples, and we have to rebuild with players. It remains to be seen how good the 2010 or 2011 classes were right now. We'll know a few years from now. I think there is enough there that if we piece together a solid 2012 transition class and put together a solid 2013 class, we will be back on track.
That's the good thing about college sports. Since every 4-5 years brings 100% turnover, it doesn't take long to change your stripes. MSU fans should understand that very well since you spent most of a decade in the wilderness and still managed to recover.
whereisomaha said:
freezdku Good grief howlame. How bout this one...are HUUUGH ready........ Get the 17 outta here
mstatedogs said:
Yeah if I said that, it would be a joke too, but once again it would be way over your head