Amazing stat from Rivals recruiting guy Chris Nee.

[mstatefan88]

Says that at least 1/3 of the MS All Star team is going to JUCO, and it may end up being more than that. I think a big part of the reason we can't compete with other teams in the SEC is because some of the best talent in the state of MS goes JUCO and we never hear from them again. There is a huge difference between one of those kids being on an SEC workout program with an SEC staff coaching them everyday and being on a JUCO workout program with JUCO coaches around them everyday.

I know the JUCO schools in MS are good, but there is no comparison to the SEC and a program like ours that has an S&C coach like Balis.It's a shame that grades are what comes between alot of these talented kids going to a D1 programs. I know I was blessed to have parents that expected A's and B's regardless of what other things I was involved in, and I was taught how to balance all of those things in my life. It really amazes me that many kids will end up not going to D1 schools right out of high school.

 

[mstatefan88]

Says that at least 1/3 of the MS All Star team is going to JUCO, and it may end up being more than that. I think a big part of the reason we can't compete with other teams in the SEC is because some of the best talent in the state of MS goes JUCO and we never hear from them again. There is a huge difference between one of those kids being on an SEC workout program with an SEC staff coaching them everyday and being on a JUCO workout program with JUCO coaches around them everyday.

I know the JUCO schools in MS are good, but there is no comparison to the SEC and a program like ours that has an S&C coach like Balis.It's a shame that grades are what comes between alot of these talented kids going to a D1 programs. I know I was blessed to have parents that expected A's and B's regardless of what other things I was involved in, and I was taught how to balance all of those things in my life. It really amazes me that many kids will end up not going to D1 schools right out of high school.

 

[drail14me]

I know there are exceptions to the rule......

 

[57stratdawg]

If Quay, James, Grindle, Liggins, Cowan, and company were down there it wouldn't be the case.

I think he's saying we're not talented enough, not so much about the grades. But 1/2 the Dandy Dozen didn't go, so I can see why most of the guys there will be headed to JUCO.

 

[NashvilleBulldawg]

and I mean that truthfully and sarcastically at the same time. The MS ed system, as most public school systems, is the equivalent of someone going for a driver's license and getting passed if the only thing they know is where to put the key and how to start the car.

 

[wk80]

I know coaches who have parents start talking about test scores and grades the last semester of their senior year, to try to get them qualified. Sad situation, but can't blame it all on the school and teachers. Show me one kid whose parents are involved, who can't make the grades and then we could talk about the teachers and school.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

I know coaches who have parents start talking about test scores and grades the last semester of their senior year, to try to get them qualified. Sad situation, but can't blame it all on the school and teachers. Show me one kid whose parents are involved, who can't make the grades and then we could talk about the teachers and school.

in the public school system in MS.

 

[Shmuley]

nm

 

[wk80]

than trying to throw money at the problem. </p>

 

[Xenomorph]

*

 

[Chesusdog]

wk80
Not a teacher, just someone who thinks a little personal responsibility would help more than trying to throw money at the problem. </p>

This.

 

[bullysleftnut]

Parental involvement is key to getting kids to put forth effort in school and make it to a 4 year college. It's a problem that plagues lower income families / communities - and it's not a racial issue it's an income issue.

People who work blue collar jobs (or don't work at all) don't tend to put the emphasis on education that white collar workers do with their children.

 

[drt7891]

and this is not limited to just MS Public education... I've seen a good lack of personal responsibility at the college level, too. Many people don't know how to take personal responsibility for themselves and expect things to be given to them. Money doesn't fix everything. That's a rant for another day, though.

 

[EAVdog]

Hell here in Atlanta the School System burns through an enourmous amount of cash. The schools suck. Probably because their payroll is bloated with one Administrator per four Teachers, and a lot of the head honchos were getting salaries into the hundreds of thousands. The previous head was making almost 500k. And the entire System was just busted for massive cheating on standardized tests!
There is a whole lot of blame to go around and personal responsibility is part of it. But there are a lot of issues that are outside the control of Parents and Students, and even the Teachers for that matter. I went to Public Schools in Mississippi and if the schools were of the quality that they were when I went through I'd send my kids there. But Public Schools have taken a nose dive and I'll be looking for other options when my Son becomes school age.

 

[Big Sheep81]

is the BIGGEST issue. And yes, TheStateUofMS, I am married to a public school teacher with having 2 daughters gone through the public school system. I am a product of a private school (although I turned in my diploma and got a GED instead).

Very few of these athletes come from homes with two parents and even fewer from homes where the parent cares about grades until they smell a scholarship and possibility of a pro career. You can dog the Mississippi public school system all you want, but my wife and daughters all got college and master degrees. When the parent(s) care, the grades are not an issue.

 

[eurotrash]

Poor east Asians do fine academically. The children of poor, undereducated, non-English speaking Ashkenazi Jews who immigrated to the U.S., somehow managed to get into Ivy League schools. Poverty is only one factor and often simply an excuse. There are some awful schools as well but good students seem to do fine in some of those schools. IQ and parents matter more. Choose your parents wisely because it's challenging to raise IQ (it can be done--see the Flynn Effect)

No one should be surprised about those stats for the Dandy Dozen. That's going on nationwide. Check out the low educational achievement of 3rd and 4th generation Mexican Americans (discussed in the book Generations of Exclusion).

There is a vast gap in educational achievement with Asians and whites at the top and Mexicans and blacks quite far behind. No education reforms over the past couple of decades have narrowed the gap. We need to do something because the Education Testing Service (think SAT) had a study that concluded that the skills and educational achievement of Americans is declining and will soon be below the achievements of Americans in 1990. This is not just a problem for State football.

 

[Coach34]

Mississippi has some good schools- even out in the Delta. But the product they begin with is totally different.<div>
</div><div>It's all about a kid's homelife and where they begin educationally. My oldest daughter could read when she went to kindergarten because my ex-wife and I worked with her alot. She was learning letters at 2 years old. We prepared her. My ex-wife is a school counselor at a K-3rd grade school- and she tells stories of kids getting to kindergarten and having to learn letters at age 5. You have some kids reading at age 5, and others learning their ABC's.</div><div>
</div><div>Teachers only get so much time to work with kids. They have to do alot of studying on their own. And we have too many kids in the state of Mississippi going home to babysit their little brothers and sisters while Momma is at work and Daddy is nowhere to be found. How in the hell do you expect these kids to be able to figure out Algebra in the 7th grade?</div><div>
</div><div>Education begins at home</div>

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

..on 6pack.


Hopefully, it'll be the last.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

..it's amazing some of the dumbass ******** you read here (unless you are being sarcastic, & I missed it).

 

[BCash]

For a large percentage of unemployed Americans, it IS the corrupt, rigged system of Wall Street that cost them their jobs. But let's save that lesson for another day not on a sports board.

 

[dudehead]

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[eurotrash]

Your natural brilliance keeps destroying my arguments. Props to that State education for allowing it to flourish.

 

[eurotrash]

Couldn't be BO, could it? He's for little guy. Just ask him. Had over 1,000 bankers prosecuted for the S&L scandals (under Reagan and Bush I) but maybe 1 or 2 under BO. Hope and change.