An egg bowl loss will seal Lebby's fate at State...

[patdog]

Totally agree. But not as tough as OM, who beat them head to head in Norman, and is guaranteed to have the same record or better.

It won't come down to it cause UMiss isn't losing the Egg Bowl. But if it did, UM has only 1 top 25 win. Oklahoma is 3-2 vs top 25 teams and UM is 1-1. Plus Oklahoma's worst loss is Texas. A loss to Mississippi State would be a huge black eye on UM resume. It could go either way. Again, this is hypothetical because UM will blow us out and probably get a bye anyway.

 

[JacksonCPAdawg]

No matter what happens on black friday, Lebby will get a 3rd year. But if we lose the egg bowl, next year will just be playing out the string. Might be anyway, but he's got to win this one to keep any hope alive. A loss to mississippi will finish off fan base engagement which will kill NIL which will kill the portal, kill any hope to compete next season, and thusly, kill lebby's tenure.

I have very little confidence that we will win this game. Lebby has proven to be is a very stubborn man with very questionable judgement.

salmon aint gonna fire his buddy this year guys

 

[josebrown]

I don’t see any way the SEC allows us to beat them, no matter how well we may play and how poorly they may play, but it won’t need to come down to that. Lacy may put 400 on us after Mizzou.

 

[Perd Hapley]

3- way tie would drop to the 2nd tiebreaker since A&M didn't play UM or UGA. I've seen that a UM win + a Bama loss + an A&M loss would sent UMiss to Atlanta.

Ok so now I’ve seen some similar articles after researching it, but none of them say exactly how.

The 2nd tiebreaker is record against common opponents shared by all tied teams. There are only 2 teams that play all 3, UF and MSU. All went 2-0 against those teams.

So it goes at least to the 3rd tiebreaker, which is record against each individual team going down the line after the tied teams. I’m guessing that they’d say Bama would somehow be the 4th place team in any scenario (in spite of being possibly tied with at least Texas and also possibly Vandy and Oklahoma)? And therefore, UGA being 0-1 against Bama while OM and A&M being 0-0 against them somehow throws UGA out of the mix?

If all that is true…..wow. You’d have a 3-way tie at the top. You’d have only one of the 3 teams that beat either of the other two tied teams. And somehow, THAT’s the team that gets left out…..all because of how the tiebreaker shakes out for who the 4th-7th place teams are. That’s the most ridiculous crap I’ve ever heard.

Thanks for the reminder on how much I despise the 8-game conference schedule.

 

[curseddawgs]

.750 winning percentage at Arkansas State (1.000 bowl game percentage)
.660 winning percentage at Auburn (1.000 bowl game percentage, lost National Champ game) - Auburn fired him for going to the Citrus Bowl.
.538 winning percentage at UCF (while transitioning to a Power 4. Went to 3 bowls in 4 years)

I'd take that kind of awful.

This isn’t 2013 Gus. This is 2025 Gus who gave up being a HC at UCF. The same Gus that was fired because at Auburn because his recruiting fell off drastically after 2018. That guy will not win here or at any other power 5 school

 

[patdog]

Ok so now I’ve seen some similar articles after researching it, but none of them say exactly how.

The 2nd tiebreaker is record against common opponents shared by all tied teams. There are only 2 teams that play all 3, UF and MSU. All went 2-0 against those teams.

So it goes at least to the 3rd tiebreaker, which is record against each individual team going down the line after the tied teams. I’m guessing that they’d say Bama would somehow be the 4th place team in any scenario (in spite of being possibly tied with at least Texas and also possibly Vandy and Oklahoma)? And therefore, UGA being 0-1 against Bama while OM and A&M being 0-0 against them somehow throws UGA out of the mix?

If all that is true…..wow. You’d have a 3-way tie at the top. You’d have only one of the 3 teams that beat either of the other two tied teams. And somehow, THAT’s the team that gets left out…..all because of how the tiebreaker shakes out for who the 4th-7th place teams are. That’s the most ridiculous crap I’ve ever heard.

Thanks for the reminder on how much I despise the 8-game conference schedule.

It's crazy. Don't know that a 9-game schedule will help all that much either. That's still 6 teams you don't play every year. And in a 3-way tie, chances of all 3 playing each other are pretty slim. Honestly, other than the fact the game makes the SEC a lot of money, it's almost meaningless. You might be better off not playing in it.

 

[Perd Hapley]

It's crazy. Don't know that a 9-game schedule will help all that much either. That's still 6 teams you don't play every year. And in a 3-way tie, chances of all 3 playing each other are pretty slim. Honestly, other than the fact the game makes the SEC a lot of money, it's almost meaningless. You might be better off not playing in it.

It will help a little just by reducing likelihood of ties in general and making the tiebreakers more robust. But you’re right. It’s not foolproof.

Ultimately, they need to change the first tiebreaker to make it not required for all 3 teams to have played each other. Because that’s very rarely going to be the case. It’s meaningless as it stands right now. If you have a 1-0, 0-0, and 0-1….common sense is to throw out the team that went 0-1. Or at very least, award the team that went 1-0 with a spot, and then proceed to the next tiebreaker for the remaining 2 teams only. By no means should UGA be the odd man out in that scenario.

 

[BossDawg78]

If Mullen or Malzahn were open to coming now, we should fire Lebby after the Egg Bowl.

Mullen? Yessir. Malzahn? A big fat negative.

 

[The Peeper]

Ole Miss has no path to Atlanta.

The best they can do is a 3-way tie with A&M and UGA at 7-1. 1st tiebreaker is head to head record against the other two teams. UGA would be 1-0, A&M 0-0, OM 0-1. UGA and A&M go to Atlanta.

4-way tie at 7-1 with OM, Bama, A&M, UGA. 1st tiebreaker is again head to head record with other 3 teams. Bama would be 1-0, UGA would be 1-1, A&M would be 0-0, OM would be 0-1. Bama is in, OM is out, then it proceeds to the 2-way tiebreaker rules between UGA and A&M…..which would go to at least the 2nd tiebreaker since they didn’t play each other.

Long story short is that OM loses all potential tiebreakers.

I heard they already ordered the "Co-Champions" banner already like they did when they had the same record as LSU but LSU had spanked dat azz in head to head**

 

[hatfieldms]

Hadad says Dan will come 100% at a discounted price. We need big boosters to get on board

If they could get Dan to agree to come back I would draw the contract up today and move on tomorrow

 

[patdog]

It will help a little just by reducing likelihood of ties in general and making the tiebreakers more robust. But you’re right. It’s not foolproof.

Ultimately, they need to change the first tiebreaker to make it not required for all 3 teams to have played each other. Because that’s very rarely going to be the case. It’s meaningless as it stands right now. If you have a 1-0, 0-0, and 0-1….common sense is to throw out the team that went 0-1. Or at very least, award the team that went 1-0 with a spot, and then proceed to the next tiebreaker for the remaining 2 teams only. By no means should UGA be the odd man out in that scenario.

I think they do let a 2-0 team through and then break the remaining 2-way tie for 2nd and 3rd. Bottom line, there's just no good way to do this with so many teams in the conference. It would almost be better to go back to divisions (maybe 4 pods of 4 with a permanent opponent in each pod and rotate pairing the pods together). You'd at least have some consistency in the schedules that way.

 

[615dawg]

I heard they already ordered the "Co-Champions" banner already like they did when they had the same record as LSU but LSU had spanked dat azz in head to head**

Ole Miss' road is basically

Win Egg Bowl
Texas beats Texas A&M
Auburn beats Alabama

They are right where I'd want to be if we were in their shoes. If they make the SEC CG, great. If not, great. Home playoff game against James Madison or North Texas.

 

[shep9332]

If Mullen came back, it would be just like when we won all of those championships during Polk II.