I think we have to accept that the recruits that left are gone. Have to operate as such and hope for the best with signing day incoming.
The ones still committed, certainly more open to being here. But that’s probably true with any coach.
Another Decommit gone.
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The ones still committed, certainly more open to being here. But that’s probably true with any coach.
So that they can be undercoached into obscurity and have no shot at the NFL?
Yeah because Franklin never had anyone go to the NFL…good lord.
There are currently 40 +/- Penn State players in the NFL. No shot is a bit hyperbolic. But under coached is not.
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ts funny every game I watch there are x Penn State players making huge impacts in NFL
Now THAT is an understatement
Then how about this for a reality check -- Penn State now has less than 10 of their 26 2026 commits left, and none of their four 2027 commits (all of whom were Top 100 recruits). If you don't think that is a problem and isn't going to have serious near-term and future consequences, you are simply not the brightest lightbulb.
Smith is failing here--though most won't acknowledge it because "he's a Penn State guy"
People are making these wins out to be far more than they are. it's not even debatable.
He can hype of the game--the fans buy into it is a different issue.
No shot??? He has 45 players in the NFL.
None of those coaches were rehired. Franklin has another job and he plans on bringing his recruits with him. His recruiting director is going to VTech with him. Apparently one recruits parent posted on x that psu staffers pushed them to decommit.
We'll see if Rojas has learned anything
But how would that be the case--is Rojas in the portal?
Or are you saying CJF is cheating?
How many verbals does Franklin have that were previously committed to us?
Ask those that know--Franklin won't get many. The class was collapsing before he was fired.
That happened before because Kraft has drug out the hiring process and didn't get the hire done before Franklin took the VT job, and those support people leaving with him were telling kids to decommit while still employed at PS. Much of that could have been avoided. Just hire Terry Smith.Now THAT is an understatement
Then how about this for a reality check -- Penn State now has less than 10 of their 26 2026 commits left, and none of their four 2027 commits (all of whom were Top 100 recruits). If you don't think that is a problem and isn't going to have serious near-term and future consequences, you are simply not the brightest lightbulb.
Well no big ten wins were happening before Terry Smith. He has righted the ship that was headed to the bottom.
Franklin still likely wins those last two games but thats irrelevant. He's lost 2 games with a talent advantage while mismanaging one of them. He's done nothing to warrant consideration.
This is what O'Brien complained about when he left. More than a decade later he's still correct.
Love you PSU4U, just think this is wildly optimistic and not what would happen at all.
For someone claiming to have inside info you should comprehend no major programs have hired a coach and their classes aren't collapsing. The class was dead before Franklin was hired. Franklin was always going to get a job prior to our announcement which was always going to be after Thanksgiving. Just like LSU. Just like Florida.
Just don’t see it happening, and leveraging a 5 year commitment to a guy to get, what, at most 4 kids?
But I’d not want to leverage 5 years to the wrong guy if it meant keeping all the commits tbh.
He gets really mad and personal over this stuff that in the grand scheme matters nothing.
They can have him.
No one person, not Tony Rojas, James Franklin, Terry Smith, no one is bigger than the program. It will be fine but I fear many people don’t have the faith.
This is how Nebraska winds up extending a 19-19 coach. Because people don’t believe they can do better.
So Franklin and his merry band of scumbags decide to poison the well on the way out of town.
Wonder if that will change the opinions of a certain contingent here that excuse Saint James' every shortcoming because the covenant of coaching requires rendering him blameless above all else?
I'm sure the fault will lay with the fans for being critical, or Kraft for holding him accountable, or Terry for focusing on fixing the team and not catching on fast enough to what Franklin had his people still in NIL/recruiting do to harm the program.
Wonder if that will change the opinions of a certain contingent here that excuse Saint James' every shortcoming because the covenant of coaching requires rendering him blameless above all else?
I'm sure the fault will lay with the fans for being critical, or Kraft for holding him accountable, or Terry for focusing on fixing the team and not catching on fast enough to what Franklin had his people still in NIL/recruiting do to harm the program.
Even more so than the average coach, players commit to James Franklin over the school because of his interpersonal skills and big emphasis on building relationships. We will lose more commits than the average school on our level going through a coaching change.