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You don't have to go away from a run game if you're down 6-13 points. You guys are making it sound like we were down by 28 early which we weren't. The game didn't get out of hand until the 3rd quarter. We didn't even try to establish a run game and deserved to lose with that poor game plan. The best way to protect a poor defense is to run the ball and play keep away. You also would have protected your backup qb who gave away quite a few points off turnovers. If I remember correctly Fyfe turnovers helped Purdue score 14-21 points which was ball game right there. We didn't even try to do it against the worst run defense in the BIG. It was a poor coaching job.

We were playing catch up. Admit it. It's not black & white like you are implying. How many Husker fans (armchair coaches) answer to everything is to run the ball? Hell, I agree that maybe we should not have abandoned the run as much as we did. But as soon as Purdue blew it open in the 3rd there really wasn't much choice. Whatever the case, sometimes shiz happens. Purdue was scoring on our defense when they had the ball. That changed the game plan and the fact that we had Fyfe under center changed things. I was just as frustrated as you on this loss. It's freakin' Purdue. It's like when Osborne lost to Iowa State. It shouldn't have happened. You were probably like, "Tom, run the ball mo... wait... uh... pass the ball more!!"
 

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Good to know a discussion on roster can upset someone so much. As for your Pelini gripe, I would say as long as someone wants to, and the Blo apologists really should not have a problem with it. Every year he was here, nothing was his fault and everyone was out to get him.... right?

Correct. It was all Callahan's fault. Year after year we never held Pelini to the same recruiting standards, the same conference championship standards, the same BCS bowl game standards. Nope. Getting pasted by Wisconsin and a whale trophy was good enough for the apologists.

Glad your back 4.6.3
 

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We were playing catch up. Admit it. It's not black & white like you are implying. How many Husker fans (armchair coaches) answer to everything is to run the ball? Hell, I agree that maybe we should not have abandoned the run as much as we did. But as soon as Purdue blew it open in the 3rd there really wasn't much choice. Whatever the case, sometimes shiz happens. Purdue was scoring on our defense when they had the ball. That changed the game plan and the fact that we had Fyfe under center changed things. I was just as frustrated as you on this loss. It's freakin' Purdue. It's like when Osborne lost to Iowa State. It shouldn't have happened. You were probably like, "Tom, run the ball mo... wait... uh... pass the ball more!!"
Agreed, We had 55 points scored on us and gave up 457 yards of offense. You aren't going to win many games with stats like that no matter what you do on offense.
 

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We were playing catch up. Admit it. It's not black & white like you are implying. How many Husker fans (armchair coaches) answer to everything is to run the ball? Hell, I agree that maybe we should not have abandoned the run as much as we did. But as soon as Purdue blew it open in the 3rd there really wasn't much choice. Whatever the case, sometimes shiz happens. Purdue was scoring on our defense when they had the ball. That changed the game plan and the fact that we had Fyfe under center changed things. I was just as frustrated as you on this loss. It's freakin' Purdue. It's like when Osborne lost to Iowa State. It shouldn't have happened. You were probably like, "Tom, run the ball mo... wait... uh... pass the ball more!!"
We gave Purdue 28 points off turnovers from Fyfe because we were passing 48 times. Two of them turned into scores in the 1st half where we had a chance to get ahead and take control. One of them was deep in our territory. A conservative run first approach would have likely got us a win that day. We ran for 77 yards. We never tried to establish the run and it had nothing to do with playing catch up in the 1st half. Even with the two turnovers (two pass plays) in which Purdue turned into points we were still very much in the game. It was a poor coaching performance.

As far as Osborne goes, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since that is the only losing team he ever lost to. It's also a new year and Riley says he is determined to establish the run. If he does, we will win 8-10 games. If he goes pass happy it will be another long year because we need to keep our defense off the field and our turnovers down on offense. I don't see our defense being very good especially the first half of the year.
 
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We gave Purdue 28 points off turnovers from Fyfe because we were passing 48 times. Two of them turned into scores in the 1st half where we had a chance to get ahead and take control. One of them was deep in our territory. A conservative run first approach would have likely got us a win that day. We ran for 77 yards. We never tried to establish the run and it had nothing to do with playing catch up in the 1st half. Even with the two turnovers (two pass plays) in which Purdue turned into points we were still very much in the game. It was a poor coaching performance.

As far as Osborne goes, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since that is the only losing team he ever lost to. It's also a new year and Riley says he is determined to establish the run. If he does, we will win 8-10 games. If he goes pass happy it will be another long year because we need to keep our defense off the field and our turnovers down on offense. I don't see our defense being very good especially the first half of the year.

I'm sure we agree on more things than those that we don't. Oh and welcome to the free board! Stop by more often. :cool:
 
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We gave Purdue 28 points off turnovers from Fyfe because we were passing 48 times. Two of them turned into scores in the 1st half where we had a chance to get ahead and take control. One of them was deep in our territory. A conservative run first approach would have likely got us a win that day. We ran for 77 yards. We never tried to establish the run and it had nothing to do with playing catch up in the 1st half. Even with the two turnovers (two pass plays) in which Purdue turned into points we were still very much in the game. It was a poor coaching performance.

As far as Osborne goes, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since that is the only losing team he ever lost to. It's also a new year and Riley says he is determined to establish the run. If he does, we will win 8-10 games. If he goes pass happy it will be another long year because we need to keep our defense off the field and our turnovers down on offense. I don't see our defense being very good especially the first half of the year.
How will the defense not be good? We have Parrella now. Everybody knows putting an ex-husker on staff will make the biggest difference. I expect we will be #1 against the run, and in sacks.
 
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How will the defense not be good? We have Parrella now. Everybody knows putting an ex-husker on staff will make the biggest difference. I expect we will be #1 against the run, and in sacks.
Despite your absence, you've gotten into form quickly! :)
 
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It's sarcasm. It's only trolling if you don't get sarcasm. Sadly, there's many on here without a sense of humor.

Yeah but if I remember correctly, he used to be defending Parrella through heavy sarcasm that was essentially making fun of unrealistic Husker fans(ex. Parrella is just here to get a check...if he doesn't start signing recruits he needs to be fired, etc). Maybe it went over(under?) my head, but it seemed obvious at the time. Now are we on to irony, or has the tone changed? It's kinda bizarre really.
 
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Yeah but if I remember correctly, he used to be defending Parrella through heavy sarcasm that was essentially making fun of unrealistic Husker fans(ex. Parrella is just here to get a check...if he doesn't start signing recruits he needs to be fired, etc). Maybe it went over(under?) my head, but it seemed obvious at the time. Now are we on to irony, or has the tone changed? It's kinda bizarre really.
It would seem to be bizarre if someone has only been around for about 5 weeks.
 
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Despite your absence, you've gotten into form quickly! :)
Seems like it. I get myself in trouble when I defend new Husker recruits when opposing fans come to crap on them. Lol
 
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Personally, I like the hire up to this point. I really like the way he works at practice with his guys and I'm guessing that passion is transparent with recruits. I don't think the NFL experience or Nebraska experience matter nearly as much as many on here think though. He's got other qualities that rank above those. That being said, I believe those thinking he's gonna turn a DL as inexperienced as this one into world-beaters, while signing 4-5 superstar recruits in the same year are VERY unrealistic.
 
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You really need to move on. I'm not your boy i8up. If you don't want to have a discussion, just say so. I'll get over it.
You asked for my thoughts, and I asked you something. You want to come after me talking about being an "adult"??? Own it.
 

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Well he was coach when Obama got elected so how much worse can it get?
No he wasn't. Obama won the election in Nov. 2008. Bo "was coach" when Obama officially took office. Not that I would expect someone whose whitty screen name is "TheLiberalHunter" to recall anything correctly. Your bias clouds over historical facts.
 

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Good to know a discussion on roster can upset someone so much. As for your Pelini gripe, I would say as long as someone wants to, and the Blo apologists really should not have a problem with it. Every year he was here, nothing was his fault and everyone was out to get him.... right?
I'm hardly upset. :)

You're the one who has not only defended a coach with a 5-6 regular season record, but also has a personal vendetta against a person who hasn't coached at Nebraska in two years. Let it go. And keep supporting an unproven head coach, while tearing down all others.

It's ok, man. It's your way.
 
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I'm hardly upset. :)

You're the one who has not only defended a coach with a 5-6 regular season record, but also has a personal vendetta against a person who hasn't coached at Nebraska in two years. Let it go. And keep supporting an unproven head coach, while tearing down all others.

It's ok, man. It's your way.
Lol. Take a deep breath. I am sure there are Youngstown message boards if you miss him so much. 1 year man, you can get red-faced if you want.
 

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The issue with walkons is a touchy one. If you're good enough to climb the ladder and crack the top two in the depth chart you get a scholie.

If you get there due to injury, do you get one? Let's say 1st stringer tears acl and 2nd stringer has high ankle sprain. 4th string walk on is now all of a sudden 2nd string for an extended period of time, maybe half the season or more. Is that person deserving of the scholie? Most likely not. Next season if they are back at 4th string, then you know the answer.

And I do think it's a little different comparing walk ons in the Osborne era to walk ons today... In the Osborne era of you cracked the top 2 as a walk on you beat out some pretty good talent to get there. Can the same be said in the late 2010s? Did Gangwisch and Dzuris get there because they beat out high level talent, or did recruiting suck?
Excellent comments and we know there is no way Bo approached recruiting with near the zeal coach T O did; IMO ,we have a probability there .... Maybe you can comment on this? Some here are being a bit mocking of the new D - line coach; or more to the point, those that think he is going to be a " Super Coach ". Its not just Red Koolaide, he has the moxy; and "Super Coaches ", come from somewhere. They are most likely the same doubters; that before the last new coaches transformed the LB's and receivers into generally regarded "Outstanding units", were taking their shots. That happened sort of quick didn't it, I'd ask their old ladies; but they are still kind of mad about it.
 
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Excellent comments and we know there is no way Bo approached recruiting with near the zeal coach T O did; IMO ,we have a probability there .... Maybe you can comment on this? Some here are being a bit mocking of the new D - line coach; or more to the point, those that think he is going to be a " Super Coach ". Its not just Red Koolaide, he has the moxy; and "Super Coaches ", come from somewhere. They are most likely the same doubters; that before the last new coaches transformed the LB's and receivers into generally regarded "Outstanding units", were taking their shots. That happened sort of quick didn't it, I'd ask their old ladies; but they are still kind of mad about it.
Swingggg and a miss. Try and understand what the pitcher is trying to do before you step up to the plate.
 

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Excellent comments and we know there is no way Bo approached recruiting with near the zeal coach T O did; IMO ,we have a probability there .... Maybe you can comment on this? Some here are being a bit mocking of the new D - line coach; or more to the point, those that think he is going to be a " Super Coach ". Its not just Red Koolaide, he has the moxy; and "Super Coaches ", come from somewhere. They are most likely the same doubters; that before the last new coaches transformed the LB's and receivers into generally regarded "Outstanding units", were taking their shots. That happened sort of quick didn't it, I'd ask their old ladies; but they are still kind of mad about it.
I have no way of knowing what will happen with Parrella. I do know this... He is a coach that has me very excited about what our DLine can become. He seems to have the right mentality and charisma to really build something.

Now that he is pulling in some big time recruits, well, I'm thinking good times are ahead.
 

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No he wasn't. Obama won the election in Nov. 2008. Bo "was coach" when Obama officially took office. Not that I would expect someone whose whitty screen name is "TheLiberalHunter" to recall anything correctly. Your bias clouds over historical facts.
I think we all know that Bo had nothing to do with Obama being elected, but it appears you are suggesting that Bo wasn't coach when Obama was elected. Yes he was. Bo became coach in December of 2007. Funny how you talk about historical facts and then get that wrong.
 
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Well I have been around since 2002 and it seems a little strange to me too
We have been over this. The "get off my lawn" aspect of getting old is a tired act for you. The ability to be offended is astounding given your whining and crying about the staff since day 1.
 

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Let's live in reality once again. The game was once 21-16 in the 3rd quarter with Purdue leading. They were never up by a huge amount until the 3rd quarter. Our game plan was garbage. We passed 48 times with a backup with his first career road start. Purdue was ranked in the 100s in rush defense and we never tried to establish the run. It would have also kept our poor defense off the field. If we establish a run game we most likely win.
Exactly this line of thinking we had to pass because Purdue was up is garbage - go back and look at the play by play the only reason Purdue was up to begin with was miscues from us passing theball
 

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the only reason Purdue was up to begin with was miscues from us passing theball

The above isn't true.

We went up 3-0 on our first possession, Purdue answered for a 7-3 lead. It was then a mishap with a snap/receiving it on 3rd and 5 which Purdue recovered. Five plays later and Purdue is up 14-3.

At the 14-3 point, we ran the ball 11 times for 59 yards; not included is the 24 yard loss on the snap mishap. We threw the ball 7 times for 64 yards. That's a 61/39 run to pass ratio.

Langsdorf called a bad game, no doubt about it. But that isn't what you say above, which is point blank wrong.
 
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