Any Cuse commits we would be interested in?
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4* TE class of 24 but that is just ranking/rating. Schiano seems to assess recruits well for the most part. No idea what kind of student or character this player is. On paper, might be worth a look.
They may be playing for a bowl but they’re 1-6 in the ACC. He’s only had 2 years out of 8 where he was .500 or better in the conference.
I often say conference record not just overall record is important because a large majority of any team’s schedule is coming from within the conference. If you can’t do well there it’s really hard to make any noise.
Well, the last rutgers coach to have a winning record in conference was back in 2012
Yea and how much noise have we made.
If it’s a difficult situation stepped into you can over look the first few years but after that more often than not you should be in the .500ish area or better in conference record to make some noise.
Babers was 4-4 last year in conference but every other season in the last 5 years was 1-2 wins in conference. That’s not good, so then you can see why he was fired despite having a chance at a bowl.
Schiano 1 got ray rice this way!
He’s creeping their commit list at the moment
He’s creeping their commit list at the moment
Their RB Allen from jersey is pretty good and is free to move on. However, their DBs from Jersey like Bellamy, Clark and Gould have already used up one portal / transfer opportunity which currently sucks for them.
Why anyone with any other options would have transferred into that dying program is beyond me unless you’re into seasonal disorder weather depression, snowboarding, skiing or dodging Jim Boeheim driving around the local highways.
Just stop. We were a member of the BIG east every year since then except 2013. You cannot compare that with the ACC, especially this year’s version of it.
The middle of the ACC pack is not good at all. Teams like BC, Georgia Tech and V-Tech would not have 5-6 wins if they played in the BIG. Don’t forget that they play an extra non-conference fluff game that should help boost their overall records except that those teams lost to teams like Northern Illinois. It’s one thing to go 2-1, heck, maybe even 1-2. But losing all 3 of those games and also getting blown out by FSU and UNC indicates it’s time to move on.
I am not comparing leagues . There is no reason to. We are judged by our record in the league we chose to join.
That’s not true. Teams are judged based on how they develops and improve year over year.
OSU, Michigan State and PSU are a combined 20-0 against everyone they have faced outside of each other and it’s been a similar story pretty much every year we’ve been in the conference. That’s not even taking into account the years Michigan State also had a championship level team.
We play 9 conference games. When you start out with 3+ automatic losses getting to 5-4 would mean going 5-1 the rest of the way. This year we also drew the best 3 teams in the west (and played Wisconsin before they lost their QB). Defining success as 5-4 or better would not be a fair way to evaluate any RU coach right now, Schiano included.
Expecting a 500 or better record of a coach in the ACC after a few years of development completely different. There are MAC teams that would easily be 500 in that conference this year.
I am not denying progress this year .
This is our 10th year in the league. Please let us know when you think we can use the record to evaluate our program. Maybe after 20 or 30 years ?
no
teams are judged on their records
no one gives a rats *** if a team is goes from winning 4 games to 6 if they finish with a losing record. your wins and losses is how you are measured.
From here on in things will be different year to year. Put in perspective - if you were to assume every team performs the same next year as this year, Rutgers would be gearing up pre-season to play one ranked team - Washington (currently #4) at home.
This year we played OSU (#3) at home. On the road we played Michigan (#2), PSU (#11), and Iowa (#20).
I have no idea what level next year’s opponents will end up being at, but the difference is teams like OSU are never not playoff contenders. It’s a big difference.
If you’d like, go ahead and celebrate BC’s success in qualifying for a bowl on the hats off to Hafley thread. This discussion isn’t about them per se, but the context of the point your making is that 6-5 is 6-5 and it doesn’t matter how you got there.
I strongly disagree. It’s been a terrible year for them by all standards. Home loss to Northern Illinois (5-6 MAC team). Loss to terrible 3 win Pitt team. Pummeled by V-Tech at home. Pulled out nail biter wins against dreadful teams like UConn, Holy Cross and Army.
Our 6-5 is an accomplishment, and demonstrates progress. Their 6-5 is pathetic and their coach was likely a snap away from getting fired multiple times this season. Rightfully so.
Why do some of you guys have such a hard time staying on the topic of the thread?
I’ve seen a couple bowl prediction lists that have us playing them in the Pinstripe Bowl.
Because folks chose to focus on the firing part and not the recruiting early in this chain (questioning the firing of a coach of a potential bowl team). A logical response referencing the 1-6 ACC record explained it but was followed by a passive aggressive Schiano/RU post about us not having a winning conference record since 2012 (as if accomplishing that would be apples to apples to a winning record in this year’s ACC).
You can blame my post if you like, but there were quite a few “off topic” back and forth posts unrelated to Cuse recruiting that led to it.
Maybe - or we could play Syracuse there.
Blah. In either case, a loss would be a terrible way for RU to end the season and would allow either of those programs to end on a high note. But it wouldn’t change the fact that their overall seasons were disappointing despite getting to 6-6.
Don’t think any of these could start for us. The second one couldn’t and left.
The near miss against Florida St. is really their best effort, and that was early in the season.
I mean we have 2 good wins . Thats it.
We haven’t had a good win in over 2 months.
We are having a better season than BC . But they did take a potential playoff team to the wire in Florida state.
I hope we get to play the eagles in the pinstink
Talk about some selective comparative analysis there, Plum. Why cherry pick the close MOV in one single game for mention?
BC LOST to Northern Illinois and beat dreadful Holy Cross, UConn, And Army teams by one score a piece. They won a grand total of one game by more than one score. We beat the snot out of 5 of the 6 opponents we beat.
Let’s put this a slightly different way. Imagine we lost the Temple game but played Purdue and Nebraska instead of OSU and Michigan going 1-1 in those games. Let’s say we beat NW by 7, Nebraska by 3, and VTech by 3. Lost to Purdue. Indiana and Wagner MOVs stand. If THAT was our path to 6-5, we’d have a 4-4 conference record, but I’d consider it a far less productive season than what we had.
Yeah but we don’t play those teams. . If we played Piscataway high school’s schedule, we would go 12–0 .
To sum it up, win one more game and it’s a pretty good season for rutgers
That wasn’t the context that you raised this point in though. That’s all I’m saying. Yeah - you play the games on your schedule, but when your schedule is extremely soft there has to be an expectation of better outcomes. If we were dealt Syracuse’s schedule and only had a 5-6 record with it (including 1-6 in conference with the collection of opponents they faced) our fans would be calling for the coach’s head too (after multiple years of mediocrity) and rightfully so.
Put another way, if RU had to wait until 2015 to move to the BIG, Flood probably would not have survived another season like 2013 (even with us being in bowl contention). Now think of Babers with multiple seasons like that. This is why I say apples and oranges to compare Syracuse to RU 2020-2023 - Baber’s firing very appropriate for what his teams delivered.