Any idea why Reed Stringer isn't on staff?...
- Thread starter dawgstudent
- Start date
If I'm remembering that right, only one person should be blamed for Stringer sucking at that job, and that person wears a crooked hat.
Stringer was an OL/TE coach. He actually wasn't bad at it, from what I've heard, despite our offensive ineptitude (which was more of a system failure than a position coaching failure). Taking the Special Teams responsibilities, though, wasn't a good fit. I also think Croom was very hands-on with the actual kickers and punters, which is where we really struggled.
from what I was told Jody felt that he was not being used properly at Mississippi State under Mullen. From someone close to not only Jody but the entire football office, too close for me to tell whom, a lot of Jody's duties were running errands. When I say running errands I don't mean football wise, I mean sweeping off Mullen's porches if company is coming by and just more housework than actually athletic stuff. Jody wants to some day be coaching on the field and finally realized that he wasn't going to be able to do this under Mullen and decided to quit. He goes into Mullen's office tells him that he quits and they have some very heated words. The next day Jody's assistant or something like that quits, and Stringer then decides he wants out as well. Crxxm calls up Saban and gets Jody a job at Bama, and tells Stringer that he will get him a job as well if he decides to leave (not sure if at Bama or what).
Now with all that said this is again what I was told from someone very close. I have a very hard time believing that Mullen had someone in the athletic department doing his housework, but who knows.
Now with all that said this is again what I was told from someone very close. I have a very hard time believing that Mullen had someone in the athletic department doing his housework, but who knows.
She is actually from Starkville and owns a store there (consignment I think). I kind of have a hard time believing he wanted to leave, but who knows.
I liked Stringer and he seemed like a legit guy but he left/or was let go b/c he wanted to coach on the field and that wasn't going to happen under Mullen.
Not saying he isn't or couldn't be a good coach but Mullen didn't think he was the best he could find.
Not saying he isn't or couldn't be a good coach but Mullen didn't think he was the best he could find.
isn't going towear off for a while. Stringer may bea good coach, but I'd view anybody associated with MSU's 2008 special teams as toxic.I'm not sure how much of that was his fault, butthere'd have to be a damn good reason to take a chance on him again.paindonthurt said:
he could.....uh......you know.....uh.......do something.....uh....you know....uh......for......uh.....the....well, the.....uh......
Wait...What did you ask?
Wait...What did you ask?
I do hate it for him though b/c Croom probably was to blame for a lot of it.
He'll have options at some smaller schools though. At least i'd think so.
He'll have options at some smaller schools though. At least i'd think so.
G
Goat Dawg
Guest
You've almost got it exactly how it happened. The only real difference is that Reed has been wanting to leave ever since Mullen got here, so it wasn't because of Jody's situation. As for Jody, you're absolutely right. The guy was more of a pledge than anything else. I know himfairly well and his entire attitude about the job went from great to terrible over the span of last year. At the beginning, he loved every minute of it. By the end (recently), it was bad enough to where he got in contact with Croomwho landed him a GA spot at Alabama. Even though it was a good move considering he wants to be a coach, he still took a step backwards and is now working a job he did a few years ago. Needless to say, he doesn't regret it at all. Apparently he loves Bama (and to that I say screw him). Next, Mullen took out his anger on one of the assistants, a GA, and he quit on the spot. So, it might have been the final straw, but Reed has been looking for another job for a while now.
And as for Felker, there is no reason to complain about him being here. He has done a lot for MSU, and he does well with his administrative position.
And as for Felker, there is no reason to complain about him being here. He has done a lot for MSU, and he does well with his administrative position.
Stringermay be a nice guy, but he was an incredibly ****** coach*. Mullen gifted him the job he has now so he wasn't out on his *** in January with no place to go. Is anyone surprised Stringer is leaving? I'm certainly not.
As far as Wright, Director of Football Operations is a ******** job**, and he should have known it wasn't a step in the right direction if he wanted to stay on the field. Hell, Clark's title at Florida was Director of Football Administration, which sounds even shittier. I hate it for him, butsurely he didn'thonestly feelthat was a good move to help him be an on-fieldcoach.
* I base this judgement (and probably unjustly so) on our 2008 ST's abortion.
**The term "******** job" is relative to the Football Staff. I would still rather do that than what I'm doing if it paid the same.
As far as Wright, Director of Football Operations is a ******** job**, and he should have known it wasn't a step in the right direction if he wanted to stay on the field. Hell, Clark's title at Florida was Director of Football Administration, which sounds even shittier. I hate it for him, butsurely he didn'thonestly feelthat was a good move to help him be an on-fieldcoach.
* I base this judgement (and probably unjustly so) on our 2008 ST's abortion.
**The term "******** job" is relative to the Football Staff. I would still rather do that than what I'm doing if it paid the same.
Because while I do agree at one time- like 1989- Rockey may have been a great recruiter and evaluator of talent- but what about now?
He was also a part of Croom's staff that also brought in some of the worst classes in MSU history. You would figure that a guy with his connections and alleged recruiting prowress could have done better than say, Ty Evans.
He was also a part of Croom's staff that also brought in some of the worst classes in MSU history. You would figure that a guy with his connections and alleged recruiting prowress could have done better than say, Ty Evans.
When Mullen was hired, he met with Reed and told he that he was going to be an on the field coach. At that time Reed had 13 commits and was named a top recruiter for the conference that year http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=909956and Mullen was afraid that he was going to lose these recruits. Reed found outthe day before signing day that he was not going to be an on the field coach (to late then to get picked up anywhere). In my opinion that was a pretty sh**ty move, and I would want to get out as well. The guy is a great position coach and a great recruiter. He knows Mississippi frontwards and backwards and is the only coach on the staff with Mississippi State background (besides Rocky). Him being named special team coordinator was based on the fact that Croom trusted him to run that unit more than anyone else. He did not do anything with kickers, but when you have a punter that punts the ball 30 yards on a line, it is pretty hard to cover. IMO, the guy is great coach and is going to be missed at state. However, I heard he is landing a job at BCS school, and I could see him being an offensive coordinator one day. If you just sit and talk football with the guy, you would understand.
Reed is related toex-asst Glen Davis, played for Campbell,worked under Sherrill and Croom.football said:
You are correct about Reed being canned late. Look at when Sallach was hired and Stringer fired compared to the hiring and firingof everyone else.Mullen held onto Stringer until Februarybecause he was tight with Russell, Boyd, Cox, Banks, etc. Stringer could flat-out recruit.
Stringer wasn't ready for the special teams responsibililty. However, many of theproblems should be blamed on Croom.Often times Stringer wanted to use different personnel on special teams but Croom wouldn't let him. My personal opinion is that Stringer should have been kept aroundbecause hewas a greatrecruiter. I would have allowed him to remain as a tight ends coach, but would have yanked the special teams from him.Basically Stringer rather than Sallach.
Edited to add that I know for a FACT that Stringer told Croom prior tothe first game of 2008 that he didn't like the idea of Wade Bonner returning kickoffs.Stringer wanted to use someone else. Croom wouldn't let him. Bonner then had a critical fumble on a kickoff return in the opening loss to La Tech. It probably cost us the game.
while ******, I am glad that we had a coach that was savvy enough to do this in a way. It's a heck of a lot better than "doing it the right way".
If true what football said, it is not savvy at all. It looks, on the surface, that Mullen replaced a guy from MS and had been on staff for 4 years with a buddy with a lesser resume. Who knows how it may work out but for now a very ****** move and not in the least savvy...if true.
Another thing, when Mullen bolts. His buddy from Ursinus would not stick around like Reed possibly would.
I hope there is more to the story.
As for Stringer's coaching ability, if you place all the blame on him for McShanks punts. Then give him all the credit for Pegues return yardage.
Another thing, when Mullen bolts. His buddy from Ursinus would not stick around like Reed possibly would.
I hope there is more to the story.
As for Stringer's coaching ability, if you place all the blame on him for McShanks punts. Then give him all the credit for Pegues return yardage.
but as we are seeing they brought in some talent. Hence good evaluator of talent (getting guys that others can't see the potential in). Croom just couldn't "coach em up". I'm not saying RF is all world and no replaceable but he knows talent.