No, and some of you need to take your crazy pills. We’ve gone from 2-10 and getting blown out by 3+ scores to being 3-4 plays away from being 8-3. He’s made some boneheaded coaching decisions, but he is a 2nd year head coach.
Any realistic chance Lebby is fired after the egg bowl
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And also a couple of plays from being 3-8. See how that works?
Unless we find Jeff Lebby in the Epstein files he's going to be our coach next year.
I don't expect us to do well next year and want to see us move on, but this is the situation.
I don't expect us to do well next year and want to see us move on, but this is the situation.
And it landed in the middle. As stated, we’ve gone from being 3+ scores out of every game to being in all but 3 games which is about our average during even good years. We’ve had 3 coaches in 4 years, and he has shown improvement. This isn’t Moorhead who was handed a Corvette and ran it in the ditch. Lebby was handed a rusted out junker.
Our schedule was so much harder last year, with 7 of our 9 repeated opponents taking a step back, some of them significantly.
You can't oversimplify it to "2 wins vs. 5 wins." You have to look at the particulars of each season. Because Florida and Arkansas were significantly worse, and Texas, Arizona State, Tennessee, and Missouri were also not as strong as last year, Lebby had a golden opportunity to win 7 or 8 games and squandered it. Most years, we won't be this lucky with the schedule. As a smaller program, we have to seize every opportunity we have - a good, competent coach would have done that this year, but Lebby didn't. At least he hasn't so far. He has 1 more opportunity on Friday to salvage something from the season, but it is against one of the few opponents who is better than last year.
For example, Florida goes from 8-4 to probably 3-9. It was a disgrace that Lebby lost that game at all, but the fact that it's largely due to his own coaching fuсkups makes it even more damning.
Funny how nobody ever wants to play the what if game in that direction. Fact is our record is exactly what it should be & what we deserve.
Years ago I remember reading a good case for teams being rated on a lucky versus metric. Divide up the games between close and not close, where close means the margin was 8 points or less at the end of regulation. The non-close record reflects your team's baseline while the close record reflects luck.
We're 3-3 (0-3) in non close games, meaning we're good at beating crap teams but still awful in the conference, and 2-3 (1-3) in our close games, reflecting slightly worse than average luck.
Our baseline last year was 2-9 (0-8) and close games were 0-1 (0-0). We've gotten better but we're still awful. This is ultimately why Lebby gets a third year.
Also, I'll just remind everyone that the "he improved" argument is fundamentally flawed. Imagine if he had beaten Toledo (probably the most embarrassing game in school history) and Arkansas last year to finish 4-8. Would you feel worse or better about Lebby?
I sure as hell would feel better. 9-15 (2-14) isn't great, but it's definitely better than 7-17 (1-15). The "he improved" argument wouldn't be there anymore though. "He improved" is a smokescreen for "he was unacceptable last year, but I'm contriving that to be good."
I sure as hell would feel better. 9-15 (2-14) isn't great, but it's definitely better than 7-17 (1-15). The "he improved" argument wouldn't be there anymore though. "He improved" is a smokescreen for "he was unacceptable last year, but I'm contriving that to be good."
“Improved” shouldn’t be a mark in his favor. It should be a given. Last year was so bad it would have been near impossible to be that bad again. The real question is has he improved enough. I say no. But the people who count say yes.
The are 81 FBS head coaches and 272 coordinators that make less than Lebby.
So, yes. Yes it is.
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So are coaches that suck and the administrators that hire them.
People can watch from home for two years and pick up on how not to do some of the dumb **** that he’s done.
And please google Bill Parcell quotes.
So hire a legit contractor, one who's already built houses, instead of a sub to build a house.
Lebby is doubly-boneheaded. He makes the boneheaded decisions in the games, then he goes to the press conferences and says he'll make the same boneheaded decisions in the future. At worst he's an idiot and really believes what he says. At best he might actually have learned from his mistakes, but for some reason thinks that admitting that makes him look bad. Instead it convinces us the fans that he's an idiot and we'll decide to not donate anything to the program. If he wants to convince us that he's better than a 5-7 coach the solution isn't for him to convince us that he's always going to be a 5-7 coach.
I mean we were 5-7 before he took over. Is it improvement if he lowered the bar himself?
I guess there's always a chance but probably wouldn't be prudent. If you REALLY want to right the ship. Lebby's gotta go but then there's Salmon. Salmon's gotta go but then there's Uncle Keenum. Keenum's gotta retire.
Exactly. We’d have been better off if we’d just kept Arnett. We could have fired him after last year & hopefully hired a decent coach for this year. Lebby sets us back at least 2 years.
We surely didn't look immensely improved just last week against Missou with their Freshman QB .
Neither. Go get Sexton’s best available.
but this Lebby thing feels like Moorhead. Lebby has gotten arrogant, too confident in himself. Doesn’t show any humility. Like the position or the money went to his head. He hasn’t tried to connect or engage the fan base much. Strange things happen when you lose the confidence of the fan base and he could be one postgame go pound sand moment away from termination.
He will definitely get fired next year. I have seen the enemy and he is us.
ULM
Minnesota
Tennessee Tech
alabama
vanderbilt
ole miss
auburn
missouri
lsu
oklahoma
texas
south carolina
ULM
Minnesota
Tennessee Tech
alabama
vanderbilt
ole miss
auburn
missouri
lsu
oklahoma
texas
south carolina
Wasted year. Room temperature IQ Libby is at a disadvantage against all those teams except ULM and TTU.
Our baseball coach is the 2nd highest paid in college baseball
Our basketball coach is the 14th highest paid college basketball coach
Our football coach is only the 55th highest paid
Our priorities are 17d up! You get what you pay for & we don't give a sheet about football at Miss State! We'd rather over pay the basketball coach who can't get past the first round and is sucking now. Baseball, well, we know the drill there. Then you've got the training grounds of failure for football because our leadership doesn't care about anything but one game a year
Our basketball coach is the 14th highest paid college basketball coach
Our football coach is only the 55th highest paid
Our priorities are 17d up! You get what you pay for & we don't give a sheet about football at Miss State! We'd rather over pay the basketball coach who can't get past the first round and is sucking now. Baseball, well, we know the drill there. Then you've got the training grounds of failure for football because our leadership doesn't care about anything but one game a year
Well Arnett might have been 2-10 too with the way he was going. Never know. Is Barbay still at Houston or did he get fired there?
As long as Mullen stays at UNLV one more year to see how he does in two year cycle I'm okay with keeping Lebby one more year. But then again. I don't want to see Taylor leave or get wasted
some of you people act like we print our own $. i would guess you were one of those that said 3 wins max before the year started and now 5 wins in you want to fire someone. yeah i'm really disappointed in 3 games i thought we had won just like everyone but he will get next year at minimum and see where we are at that point.
Can UNLV afford his salary for next year, even without a raise? I seem to remember that they were financially strapped at the start of the year.
I can see us at 2-9 next year.
Eh more like we couldn't attract a head football coach worth paying a lot for.
Officer Barbary was stripped of his play calling duties halfway thru his lone season at Houston. He is now an analyst at Kentucky who is currently in the bottom 5 of the league offensively.