Anybody need a hotel room for this weekend?
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$209 a night is crazy. Truly crazy. That'd be $500 for the weekend. For comparison the Hampton Inn at Times Square/Manhattan is $189 per night.
Hampton Inn Times Square Prices
Hampton Inn Times Square Prices
Well, it's $200+ every weekend with a football, baseball, or basketball event played in Starkville as well.
The pricing out of avg fans is here. College Football is about to feel the Nascar effect that happened 12 years ago. full premium seating and empty cheap seats. Basically america now. No middle class.
The difference being the Hampton Inn Times Square will have empty rooms this weekend and the one in Starkville will not.
I dont think we will ever go 3-9 again. I think 5-7 is our new 3-9. We have more money than 95% of schools and play in the best conference in the country. If you go 3-9 or 4-8, you should be fired on the spot.
I've been wondering the same thing. I want to say that the required additional contributions for lower level Hump seats came into play just a few years ago, and that's obviously not going over very well now. For at least the last couple years, my family has had the option of moving down to near mid-court and ~ 20 rows up, but I'm just not going to pay the extra money for that honor right now. Most likely, I'll feel the same about football if we ever go through another Croom-like era.
Oh okay! Is that how it works? I bet the demand is way higher than $3.50 per gallon for a gallon of gas.
and there is ample supply...hence prices at $3.50. plus there is a lot more involved in gas prices owing to subsidies, OPEC, regulations, distribution, etc.
Hotels are simple in Starkville. There is a TON of demand during sporting events and not enough supply.
I don't really know why I am explaining this to you. Pretty sure your post was trolling. I've seen you post for years and you're not that dumb.
Hotels are simple in Starkville. There is a TON of demand during sporting events and not enough supply.
I don't really know why I am explaining this to you. Pretty sure your post was trolling. I've seen you post for years and you're not that dumb.
Oh okay, so 10 years ago when has was $1 a gallon, is there 1/3 the supply today?
Why dont all Starkville area business double their prices on game weekends? Why isn't a $7 chick finger plate from Abners worth $15 on a football game weekend with all the extra demand running around. $15 tshirts should be worth $25 or $30, right? Or is that only applicable to hotels?
Why dont all Starkville area business double their prices on game weekends? Why isn't a $7 chick finger plate from Abners worth $15 on a football game weekend with all the extra demand running around. $15 tshirts should be worth $25 or $30, right? Or is that only applicable to hotels?
You are actually that dumb. Didn't know it. It would take a month of Sundays to explain gas prices to you. I'm not that invested in the argument.
The Starkville area businesses could raise prices on those weekends if it wasn't so damn easy to get extra supply ordered prior to the weekends occurring. The hotels don't have that option. You are making this too easy.
The Starkville area businesses could raise prices on those weekends if it wasn't so damn easy to get extra supply ordered prior to the weekends occurring. The hotels don't have that option. You are making this too easy.
They change their 24 hour cancellation policy to 7 days for SBW apparently. It's gone now, though.
Here's a pricing matrix for the Alabama baseball series (Holiday Inn is actually A&M):
That is not a function of supply and demand. Those are similar hotels in the same town at similar price points until the weekend rolls around. The reason you see it is because Hilton has very relaxed rules regarding 'seasonality' pricing among its franchises. And somewhere along the way the owners decided that every baseball, basketball, football, graduation, orientation weekend at MSU is covered like the Hampton Inn in Orange Beach on spring break. No other hotels in Starkville operate under that crap except for football weekends. It has very little to do with supply and demand, especially to the extent that prices for the Hampton are basically tripled.
Glad I could clear that up for you. If you have any other questions, you might just want to PM me.
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Glad I could clear that up for you. If you have any other questions, you might just want to PM me.
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Most hamptons are $109-$149 on any given day. I stay in them 120 nights a year. $200 doesnt seem that crazy to me. Plus it is walking distance to stadium, campus, veranda, etc.
Cleared what up for me? You proved my point and don't even know it.
Do you think they would increase their prices that much if they didn't continue to fill their rooms more profitably? What if they raised the prices to $1,000 a night? I'll tell you since you clearly don't get it. They wouldn't have many, if any, rooms sold at $1,000. The price point would exceed demand too much. The increased profit from the potential of $1,000 rooms would not exceed the profit potential of selling all the rooms at $107. The demand is high enough for them to double prices and still be more profitable even if all rooms are not filled. Otherwise they wouldn't do it for long.
On top of that, the demand for a Holiday Inn and a Hilton Garden may be different depending on the typical clientelle, the location, the ammenities, etc. By having more flexibility with seasonality and special events, they are signalling that they are working under different assumptions for profits. Holiday Inn is using less margin with potential for more volume and Hilton Garden is using more margin with potential for less volume.
This is not rocket surgery.
Do you think they would increase their prices that much if they didn't continue to fill their rooms more profitably? What if they raised the prices to $1,000 a night? I'll tell you since you clearly don't get it. They wouldn't have many, if any, rooms sold at $1,000. The price point would exceed demand too much. The increased profit from the potential of $1,000 rooms would not exceed the profit potential of selling all the rooms at $107. The demand is high enough for them to double prices and still be more profitable even if all rooms are not filled. Otherwise they wouldn't do it for long.
On top of that, the demand for a Holiday Inn and a Hilton Garden may be different depending on the typical clientelle, the location, the ammenities, etc. By having more flexibility with seasonality and special events, they are signalling that they are working under different assumptions for profits. Holiday Inn is using less margin with potential for more volume and Hilton Garden is using more margin with potential for less volume.
This is not rocket surgery.
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Hilton either doesn't know it happens or they turn a blind eye to it. That type of thing shouldn't be happening.
I understand your frustration. I am not suggesting in any of this that I don't. At the end of the day though, companies try to make profit. It is how the system works. If you have a finite number of products to sell (rooms) and the demand vastly exceeds what is available, then prices go up. Some companies look at it as a chance to take risk and increase prices drastically to find the equilibrium where demand is marginally reduced, but not reduced so much that their profitability is less than when they sell all rooms at the original price. Of course this can be a short term focus because customers can become disenfranchised about their variable pricing structure and not consider staying at their hotel on off weekends. It is a risk for sure.
The market doesn't work correct if there are $115 dollar rooms and $240 dollar rooms available in Starkville, MS on the same night in hotel chains of similar price points.
Hopefully you'll see that change some when the Courtyard Marriott and new Holiday Inn are built.
Hopefully you'll see that change some when the Courtyard Marriott and new Holiday Inn are built.
Yes it does work correctly. The fact that Courtyard Marriott and Holiday Inn are being built proves that point. When the environment shows substantial profitability, competitors will see the option to enter the market as less risky and are more likely to enter. They also see a competitor that they can force to bring down prices and lose extra profitability because of new supply in the market. This is Econ 101. It isn't the evil companies.
I'm not sure what you are trying to argue but you're making his point for him. There's a much higher demand for hotel rooms on game weekends, therefore there is a price increase. Hotels are just using the market to their advantage. Why do you think hotel rooms in cities are higher on holiday weekends like New Years? It's the same thing.
If there isn't enough competition in the market place to police pricing - it isn't working correctly. I bet there isn't another hotel in MS at $250/night, especially from a chain like Hampton.
Oh. Dear. God.
My last post about this because you won't get it. When there isn't enough competition, meaning not enough SUPPLY, then the prices are often raised. The fact that prices are raised when demand exceeds supply means it is working correctly. You may not like it and may not think it is nice, but it is what happens.
Go ahead, have the last word. I don't care. Will lock it afterward.
My last post about this because you won't get it. When there isn't enough competition, meaning not enough SUPPLY, then the prices are often raised. The fact that prices are raised when demand exceeds supply means it is working correctly. You may not like it and may not think it is nice, but it is what happens.
Go ahead, have the last word. I don't care. Will lock it afterward.
Do you have a similar matrix for football home weekends?
And FYI, the Marriott Courtyard and Marriott Fairfield in Columbus have gone to two-day minimums for football, and prices per day are somewhat exorbitant.
And FYI, the Marriott Courtyard and Marriott Fairfield in Columbus have gone to two-day minimums for football, and prices per day are somewhat exorbitant.
Our ultimate disagreement is that you believe that any market, any where is functioning correctly predicated only on the market forces, but I disagree with that. There are healthy markets and unhealthy markets. The Starkville hotel market is unhealthy. I understand football season, but it's April in Starkville, MS. If there isn't enough competition (supply) to prevent the market from being gouged (I don't use that as a legal term just a verb) like that - it isn't operating correctly in my eyes.
We can disagree. Good debating with you.
We can disagree. Good debating with you.
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Damn you DS. Damn you to hell.
And since it is still open....his gas price argument assumed that demand had not increased in 10 years and supply had reduced by one third. Anyone heard of China and their fancy new highways, growing middle class, and demand for cars? Yeah, they increased their number of drivers just last year by 24 million.
And since it is still open....his gas price argument assumed that demand had not increased in 10 years and supply had reduced by one third. Anyone heard of China and their fancy new highways, growing middle class, and demand for cars? Yeah, they increased their number of drivers just last year by 24 million.