Anymore attrition on the horizon?

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I think the general problem with a degree program is that most of them seem to be open to everyone. If a football player wants to be an aerospace engineer, he's welcome to sit in my class. If I want to take Football Operations/Coaching as a career path, does the University have the power to only allow the D1 athletes in that program?

I think the argument would be, only like 3% of all D1 athletes go on to pro career, so any given University would likely have to open up enrollment beyond just the one or handful of people it has that will actually use that degree, to make it cost effective/viable.
For sure it would have to be open to everyone, similar to the UNL PGA Golf Management program. and be general enough that it could be useful in other areas (training, etc) beyond being an athlete. There are a lot of degrees out there that aren't particularly employable, this might be one of them and would probably never get off the ground. But for someone who is only interested in going to school to play football with hopes of going pro, it might be just as good as a "fill in the blank" degree which they may or may not ever use.
 

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For sure it would have to be open to everyone, similar to the UNL PGA Golf Management program. and be general enough that it could be useful in other areas (training, etc) beyond being an athlete. There are a lot of degrees out there that aren't particularly employable, this might be one of them and would probably never get off the ground. But for someone who is only interested in going to school to play football with hopes of going pro, it might be just as good as a "fill in the blank" degree which they may or may not ever use.

I see what you are doing here!!!

A chance for Nebraska to improve it's APR score and ranking within college football by graduating more student athletes. Maybe we can get some more Academic All-Americans in the process.

I will e-mail the Nebraska Athletic Department now. Winking
 

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I do wonder how many schools have toyed with this idea. Kind of looking at it as the kind of taboo that's kept the NFL out of Vegas for so many decades.

Someone will be the first to try it...
 
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I see what you are doing here!!!

A chance for Nebraska to improve it's APR score and ranking within college football by graduating more student athletes. Maybe we can get some more Academic All-Americans in the process.

I will e-mail the Nebraska Athletic Department now. Winking
Naw, there have just been so many stories of athletes in the pros, losing all their money, getting ripped off, etc, that it always feels like there should be some way for them to learn how to take things into their own hands, or at least be aware of the things they are getting into, if that is their career path of choice.
 

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Naw, there have just been so many stories of athletes in the pros, losing all their money, getting ripped off, etc, that it always feels like there should be some way for them to learn how to take things into their own hands, or at least be aware of the things they are getting into, if that is their career path of choice.

I agree with you. I have read some of the same stories and seen ESPN investigative stories about this topic.

Maybe there should be mandatory seminars with these topics in mind for student athletes that are participating in sports that involve the possibility of reaching the professional level.
 

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Unfortunately the athletes that need that seminar the most would not be among the athletes paying close enough attention because it "won't apply to me, I'm going to make it"
 

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Totally agree.

Every year we hear about athletes that were swindled out of their fortunes by people close to them. There are symposiums every rookie has to attend that talk about money management and inner circles but it continues because no on thinks it will be you. Human nature I suppose.
 

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An educator once told me..."Choices and Consequences".

One might say that about their financial choices to begin with.

I suppose at the end of the day the conclusion I've come to is that this is a lot of hoops to jump through to solve a fairly small problem for the handful of teams looking for national titles.
 

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As far as participation trophies comment goes, you know nothing about me, what I believe, or my athletic background. So keep the personal **** out of it.

My comments have little to do with being fair or giving a kid something they don't deserve. If you knew me, at all, you would understand that. It's about making a commitment to a high school kid and his parents.

As a coach I made my talent evaluation when they were in high school and I offered the scholarship. If they don't work out I failed as much or more than they did. My job is to get every kid his degree and get as much athletically out of the kids I made a commitment to, not quit on them because their athletic ability plateaued or whatever the case may be.

In today's world, the P5 rule is 4 year scholarships. That's what we have to deal with. Now if I choose to redshirt a player as a freshman and by the time they are a RS junior and havent contributed, I do not believe I should have an obligation to keep them a 5th year. They have had plenty of free semesters to get the required credits to graduate.
First of all the participation ribbon comment was not a personal slam. It was a joke. Second of all, I think it is wrong to assume that IF a kid plateaus or doesn't reach his potential that it's the coach's fault. You seem like an extremely conscientious guy and maybe take your responsibility for their failure a little too personally. Recruiting kids based on high school performance for athletics or academics is still a crap shoot. You can guess but you can't accurately predict how hard a kid will work once he gets to school. I still believe that the majority of responsibility of a kid's success or failure lies with the kid not with the coach or the professor. IF a kid feels his coach or professor isn't doing him justice then it's in his best interest to go somewhere else. Cutting a kid after having 3 years of his college paid for is not a horrible thing.
 
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Why an athletic scholarship even exists still mystifies me. College is supposed to be an academic endeavor, not an athletic one.
 
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Why an athletic scholarship even exists still mystifies me. College is supposed to be an academic endeavor, not an athletic one.

If you're going to split those hairs, split them the other way, it is an academic scholarship, their schooling is what is getting paid for.