I also am a big fan of the restaurant. And I don't mind them closing on Sunday. I like standing up for values. I don't believe in mixing politics with business regardless if I agree with the politics or not.
Anyone ever heard of Tom Ford?
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I don't hate art degrees. As Judge Smells said, "we need ditch diggers too." I have a problem with money being loaned to people for degrees that have a very limited prospective for adequate employment to be able to be paid back. I believe in civil unions for gays with all the rights of marriage, I think that marriage is a biblical term and union.
Ok. Augusta National do not make their membership public. They brought in Condolezza Rice and another very respected business woman in 2009, I believe. I would be willing to bet there are more now.
I agree that at one time for many years, there was a great deal of sexism. But they have changed many sexist policies over the past decade. I give them credit for it.
Closing on Sundays? It is a private organization. My opinion matters zero. If it was a public company, I would say it would be terrible policy and they wouldn't be able to maintain it.
I was a 6 prior to having kids, now I'm probably back up to 10-12. Started when I was 12. Tough to find the time to get it much lower.
When my present wife met me I was playing 6 times per week. Got married in 97, had children, lucas is grad this year and emily is 15, and started to play less. Trouble was, I started to play really well. 2003 got the quarters of the US Mid, lost in 20 holes to go to the semis. Anyway, I really started to win and it became a point of friction between us. It is hard to play and fight constantly. I target my practice time to shorter periods after work or after kids activities. I never played in a tournament till after I got out of dental school. As your kids get older, you can do what I did to get better. Just work on certain aspects of your game for 30 mins. Short game one day, driver the next. Mid irons and short irons. I also started getting invited to really good amateur golf tournaments which family and money makes it hard to go play.
My original post was about his denigration of Melania and how stupid this was for his business. I continue to believe that if he did this to Michele, you would view it as racist and would be appalled. Even if Michele was not involved, but a liberal. democrat female, you would've been appalled.
Yu know they would. If somebody did that to a liberal, black woman, the person would be called racist right before they were skinned alive on cNN with cheering from Chris Matthews as a chilled ran up his leg.
I think they know it too, but would never admit it. Many, many libs see race in everything, absolutely everything.
One thing that really amuses me is people saying the word marriage has biblical meaning and shouldn't apply to gays yet in the Bible, some of the heroes/patriarchs/apostles were paligamists.
It was also acceptable to own slaves back then. Times change. Marriage is a biblical term, bewteen and man and a woman. I said I thought that a civil union for gays was acceptable to me with them having all the rights adn privleges of married people.
I'm hoping it gets better. I played twice last season, but we won the Ryder so it's a push.
It will. In the late 80's and early 90's, I played about 75 rounds a year. 2001-2008, I averaged about 3 rounds a year. Past 5 years, I am playing about 40 a year and that is a perfect amount and still having a responsible job and still being very involved with my large family.
I think you are very knowledgeable and a good citizen. I think your attitudes about business (minus the environment) are solid. I actually don't mind you bashing liberals that do non-liberal things (like protesting speakers). But you're on everything like you're seething with rage. That I don't understand. I don't understand the backlash against being PC. What's so wrong with trying to prevent offense? Why not trust someone when they say that something offends them? How can we know? And why think it's about scoring political points unless there is legitimate reasons for it?
What I don't get at all, and cannot stand is the assumption. Maybe it's backlash against assumptions made by the left, but you're assuming liberals would get outraged about someone refusing to dress Michelle Obama.....and here's the thing, it never happened, it's all assumption. It's like that rage just shoots off into some place where there is no possible chance of reconciliation. Both sides....it's scary.
Trump was Trump. Admit it....he was brash, not PC, and incendiary in his campaign. It got him victory, I'm not questioning the intelligence of the strategy. He's President, and that's why he was scary to many people. It's why he is already hated pretty hard by many on the left. He doesn't care...fine, but don't knock the repercussions.
I am not angry, frightened for our country, absolutely. Angry, no. PC is extremely detrimental to our country, especially in our colleges and universities. These kids are our future leaders and they have safe rooms, trigger warnings and stifle the first amendment because of their fear of what they might hear. At 19, my father was fighting the Japanese in the Philippines. At 19, these kids get offended, upset and move to safe spaces because of someone's speech. That is scary for our country. Life is not easy and we are in no way preparing these kids for the real world.
If you can't see that the modern Dem party is not separating this country by race, ethnicity, gender and sexual preference, then I can't help you. They see racial issues where none exist. A lib on this board gets upset because a black poster doesn't think the way he should think. I call it the liberal thought plantation. And I can absolutely guarantee you, that if a designer refused to dress Michele, liberals and the media would be apoplectic. They would most certainly call the designer a racist. It happens all the time.
I have long posted that I think Trump is an idiot. I think he is a thinned skinned narcissist. He does not exercise much, if any, self control. But he understood America better than most of us. The PC crap. Jobs going overseas. Industries destroyed or greatly hurt by regulations and costing jobs. Middle class wages being drained. And he won on those issues. America feels like we are going not only in the wrong direction but, for the first time in our country's history, leaving behind a country and economy that will leave our children less well off than the country we inherited from our parents. And in many ways, that concern is very, very real.
Liberals tend to think of themselves as the holders of virtue. I have long said that both conservatives and liberals want to see Americans succeed. The differences are found in the process to achieve those results. Liberals don't own virtue though many think they do.
I really can't understand your thinking on this. Paligamy is not acceptable.
Tell your wife that you want meatloaf when you get back from playing golf! One problem that has been plaguing the golf community is fewer and fewer rounds of golf. A national trend that has been doing that for 20 years. Now, there is even less disposable income.
I agree. And you know how it is...no golf is like losing a part of yourself. People might think that's ridiculous, but I'm never at peace more than on the course
There is something very disturbing about seeing a 19 yr old at war as good for character. I'm sure you only mean the responsibility and inner strength that it takes, but if you don't see the problem with it....wow. Also, you think college is a bad thing for a 19 yr old, there's also something very disturbing about that as well. PC is about empathy, it's about breaking the absolutism that divides people. Is the Democratic Party playing identity politics? Of course. It's wrong, and it's not a liberal policy by the way.
The problem is....you are an absolutist. Your religion, your politics, your attitudes about what's right and wrong, and your vision of America are all firmly cemented in your mind as right...absolutely right. And you rage at anything that threatens it. Believe what you want, but that's not America. I've heard you often state that libs are isolated in their coastal city bubbles. I think it's you that's isolated. You say I'm stuck in the past, I think you are the one looking backwards for that American identity.
America is all of us. You are no more American than an immigrant just naturalized. Liberals don't have the monopoly on virtue, but they do allow for the vision and meaning of America to change and adapt.
Paxx never misses a chance to let anyone on here know his politics, religion, and vision for America. What's your point?
My point--really? You took me to task for supposedly thinking I know you based on your posts. You then followed that commenting by making far more reaching comments about me, and now here about WVPATX.
Never miss a chance to look down your nose do you? Reaching comments to speak to the political, religious, and vision that Paxx States quite often (including the post I replied to)? And honestly, I don't remember what I said about you, but if it had anything to do with you being condescending and absolutist and hypocritical.....well, those aren't reached either.
OMG. Boom, surely you don't mean this? War is horrible in every sense of the word. But my father was fighting for his country after the unprovoked sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, not to mention German's desire to control the world. It was necessary to secure our freedom and save our country. Some wars are just wars and this was surely one of them. Yes, it forced him to grow up quickly. To accept responsibility for himself and others. To stop thinking of only himself and to realize the world did not revolved around him. And to recognize the incredible lessons of discipline, hard work, and the exhilaration of success for all of his hard work and sacrifice. Yes, war is horrible. But he grew up, matured, knew much more about the world than the snowflakes of today. And we are a much greater country for all of their sacrifices.
And PC has been carried much, much too far. Sensitivity to others concerns is admirable. But when you shield a student from words they may deem offensive, they don't mature or grow up, they expect the same treatment in real life. When they stop a speaker from speaking, that is a horrible lesson. The First Amendment is first for a reason. And many have died to protect these kinds of freedoms. And it's not just the students, it's the faculty and the administrators. When they seek comfort in their safe rooms, they are running away from what they deem as a problem rather than confront the issue head on. When they are issued trigger warnings, they are shielded from discomfort. Life is not like that. They are not preparing these kids for life, they are doing just the opposite. When countries eschew assimilation for multiculturalism, they are threatening the very nature of their country and we have seen the violence and death that grows out of this misguided effort. We are all immigrants to America. But we all became Americans. We all assimilated and adopted the values of this country, adopted the laws of this country and took great pride in being American. But the PC crowd doesn't want that. Multi-culturalism serves to divide, not unite. One last thing, my father's generation is called The Greatest Generation, and for good reason. Without their sacrifice,both overseas and when they returned, we would not be the country we are today. Not even close. You are as naive or perhaps more so than Obama.
I am not an absolutist. I have changed my mind on many subjects over the years. I was an avowed liberal in college. I changed when I saw liberal policies fail those they intended to help. They created dependencies on government, not self reliance and the self respect that comes with it. I used to believe in capital punishment, but no more. I used to believe in welfare for the unemployed, but now believe that a hand up is essential, not a hand out and we a time limit on that hand out. Again, we create dependencies and I have seen this first hand in WV.
I am an absolutist about my faith. I believe in God. I believe he sent his only son to die for me. And I believe the way to everlasting life flows thorough our Lord. On this charge, I confess, guilty as charged. But I don't judge other people. I debate for sure. But I don't judge, that is not for me to decide. Another will do the judging.
And you next to last paragraph says it all. You posted:
Your religion, your politics, your attitudes about what's right and wrong, and your vision of America are all firmly cemented in your mind as right...absolutely right.And you rage at anything that threatens it. Believe what you want, but that's not America. I've heard you often state that libs are isolated in their coastal city bubbles. I think it's you that's isolated. You say I'm stuck in the past, I think you are the one looking backwards for that American identity.
I don't RAGE at anything that threatens it, I debate it. You may not like being called out in a debate, but you, too, think you are right. That is what debate is all about. Both sides taking a position and thinking they are right. How is this not America? We have passionate debates all the time. Our government was set up for just this scenario. Debates. That's why we have checks and balances. And through these debates, we learn and grow and hopefully come to the right decision. Unfortunately, we have become so fragmented as a society, so divided, we are not coming together. And I attribute a lot of that to identity politics. John Wayne said many years ago that he did not like hyphenated identities. African-American. Jewish-American. Irish-American. He correctly stated that a hyphen serves to divide. We are simply Americans.
BTW, The map clearly shows libs isolated on the coasts, by and large. If you didn't know that, you haven't been paying attention. And the values of people on the coasts are far different than the values of middle America. It is simply a fact. I am not stuck in the past, You think because I don't accept your reality that I am. In other words, you see yourself as the holder of great progressive thought and I am stuck in the past because I don't agree with your ideas or progressivism. How very arrogant of you. What if you're wrong? Have you ever considered that notion? I have. And I acknowledge that I have and will continue to be wrong about certain things and I adapt. Just has I have adapted through the years from an avowed liberal to a conservative. Many, many people have made that same journey with me.
I thought liberalism was all about compassion, empathy, understanding, willingness to listen. Are you sure you're a true liberal?
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Isn't this the purpose of this board to elicit debate? If you don't relish debate and defending your point of view, you should visit only liberal sites that sing from the same song book. You'll be happier.
I haven't showed any of those traits? Look again at how I addressed you in the previous post before your anti-lib rant, and asserting that the nation was soon to be lost.
I do enjoy the debate, and often your views help me learn. I was replying to Cajun, who always jumps on me for being prejudiced and assuming too much
I debate. Some posters are more aggressive than others. You treat me with respectful debates and I try to do the same. You degenerate into name calling and vitriol, I will do the same. I probably shouldn't do that and remain above the fray. It is something I am going to try and do regardless of the vitriol thrown.
Believe it or not Boom, I like you as a poster and always try to read your posts. I enjoy our back and forths. I learn. Hopefully, you and I can still disagree but do it civilly. I know I'll try.
I get plenty from the debate on here. Discussing with like minded people only creates a vacuum of opinion. I see Christianity as much less threatening thanks to you, Cajun, and Heel. That helps me open my mind more to Christian fundamental attitudes. I've begun researching the housing collapse and the Great Recession more thanks to your insight on policies that contributed. I'm more aware of the ridiculous blocking of speakers on campuses now thanks to you, and trying to find ways to prevent this attitude in the future.
The differences between us on such vital components of our national dilemmas is what divides the debate and national discussion so viciously. In business, it's climate change. Socially, it's how to achieve equality. In foreign policy, it's the fear of war. In domestic policy, it's the role of religion.
It would be nice to find truth where truth can be found (Climate change for example). Then the debate could actually move to solutions. I believe States Rights can provide the answer for many domestic policy questions that continue to divide (gay marriage, abortion). Foreign policy? That's the one thing where common ground can't be found. Pacifist versus aggressive leadership? No common ground. All else....common ground can be found with respect if truth is found first.
I respect your religion, your passion for life, and your love for this nation. I respect President Trump's desire to do good things as well.
I agree. I'm guilty of it as well. It's also difficult because tone doesn't relay well in type. I'm taken as sarcastic much more than I intend to be, and often am seen as attacking when I'm simply questioning. But I find it difficult to talk politics anymore in person, because people are so polarized. This is bad for America, and my father would be devastated by it.
Let me leave you with a few thoughts:
1. If global warming is proven to be man made and with severe consequences, I will be rigth there with you. But those claiming the science is settled are lying to you and to the country. Science is never settled. Heck, the Big Bang is now being reevaluated because it can't explain dark matter and other phenomenon. When the actual measurements of temperatures comport with the models over a period of many years, that will help me to reconsider my opinion. Thus far, that has not been the case. And many scientists now believe we are about to enter into another little ice age for perhaps 40-50 years due to low sun spot activity. Apparently, the sun goes through these stages that scientists can observe and predict. I am not willing to destroy our economy, pay trillions to 3rd world countries (so they don't use fossil fuels), until we have much, much firmer evidence than we have today. That is why I am in favor of an all of the above energy policy.
2. War. Boom, sometimes war is necessary even essential to stop evil. Surely you recognize that evil exists. Joseph Stalin killed up to 100,000,000 people in the Soviet Union. Hitler killed 6,000,000 Jews and millions more to conquer the world. ISIS wants to establish a caliphate to convert everyone to the Muslim faith and will kill to do so. This evil must be stopped because IT SAVES LIVES. Iran wants to reestablish the Persian Empire in the Middle East. They are seeking nuclear weapons and funneling billions of dollars to terrorists groups, that seek to kill and maim innocent people. And if Iran gets that nuke, I have little doubt Israel will either be destroyed or will destroy Iran first. It's that dangerous. North Korea has nukes now capable of reaching the U.S. and they are led by an extremely mentally unstable man. War is hell, but unfortunately at times necessary. Can you imagine the world if Hitler had won?
Having said this, not all wars are just. And we must be very, very careful before entering won. The costs in human suffering are immense. Even the Catholic Church, as pacifist as it gets, recognizes just wars.
3. You posted this:
I believe States Rights can provide the answer for many domestic policy questions that continue to divide (gay marriage, abortion).
I completely agree with your statement. But that is not what happened. Just the opposite. 9 unelected judges overruled the people and legalized these practices and we have had turmoil ever since. The Founders were brilliant. They did not want the judiciary making laws. That was left to the legislative branch. In each of these cases, the judiciary made new law. And it has hurt the country dramatically. If the states had decided these issues for themselves, most Americans would've accepted the outcome.
Lastly, on aggressive foreign policy, I believe in the Teddy Rosevelt philosophy, walk softly and carry a big stick. If we are pacifist, evil will step into the void we leave. They always have and unfortunately in my opinion, always will. It will lead to more war and more death and destruction. If evil realizes that we will not stand by and let them carry out their plans, they very well may back off.
Take Syria for example. Obama draws the red line, then ignores that line, Assad uses chemical weapons, Russia, ISIS and other groups gets heavily involved and now we have 500,000 dead Syrians. My wife's family has many relatives living in Syria that have now moved to Europe leaving everything they owned behind. This did not need to happen.
Peace through strength.