Sadly I see you are going to post in same negative BS manner over here. As, I want to be better over here in terms of posting, I am just going to put you on ignore from the get go.
Anyone heard the Franklin contract rumors?
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I have said before and will say again I don't think these schools are actually courting Franklin. It is his agent. That is what they do. They create a buzz about their clinet to either improve the deal they already have or make soemone else think they are desireable. As long as you keep extending a guy to 4/5 years recruits know the school is committed to the coach. It sucks that it has to work that way but you can't let them become lame ducks so to speak.
You seem to be focusing on Georgia. So here is what Georgia has spent in recent years on athletics capital projects:
UGA football facilities: The $175 million upgrades (ajc.com)
$31 Million on an indoor facility (like Holuba Hall). Georgia did not even have an indoor facility until then. So, who was "behind"? And it was all funded by donations. Georgia is currently spending $80 million on their football facility (like Lasch). The Georgia renovations are going on right now, and expected to be completed in the next year or so. And it is 90% paid for already by donations. They also spent around $60 million on stadium renovations, which included, among other things, a Recruits Lounge (which Penn State already had). $53 million of the $60 Million was raised via donations before they built it.
Penn State is currently spending $109 million to renovate Lasch, all with debt taken on that is the responsibility of the University, and there is only one revenue source that is liable for paying off that debt. That revenue source is tuition money. For what it's worth, Clemson spent far less than that, far less than $109 million, about half as much, to build their new football facility a couple years ago. Clemson football has changed the game in college athletics facilities (greenvilleonline.com)
I don't remember Clemson fans, or Dabo Swinney, complaining that they were not spending enough. Maybe they were too busy polishing trophies.
If Penn State Athletics could pay for $109 Million Lasch renovations by cutting some non-revenue sports, they would have, probably, done it. But at $1 million or less per year in savings by cutting a typical non-revenue sport, that isn't really going to help much.
Unlike other public universities, Penn State does not disclose it's individual assistants salaries, but they do have to provide information on the total spending for the 11-member coaching staff (head coach and 10 assistants), as required by the Federal Government. As of the last reporting year, 2019 football season, Penn State spent $17,820.047 on coaching salaries.
Since then, they hired Yurcich at around $1.5 Million, and paid around $1 million as a buyout to get rid of the previous offensive coordinator, and have seen Franklin's salary increase by another $1 million. How many programs pay more? The answer is less than 10.
You copied and pasted from a list of head coach's salaries that doesn't include Franklin. What you didn't do was look through the whole list, or you would have seen Franklin's salary is indeed among the top 10, but the listed it at the bottom with a note that Penn State doesn't make salary figures public, even though we know what those figures are (both because they are included in the Federal reports, and Mark Wogenrich, and others, have listed them out in detail)
Here they are with Frankin included - and he is top 10, and the highest in the entire Big Ten.
USA Today releases 2021 edition of highest-paid FBS head coaches - Footballscoop
1. Nick Saban -- $9.753 million
2. Ed Orgeron -- $9.012 million
3. Dabo Swinney -- $9.508 million
4. David Shaw -- $8.924 million
5. Lincoln Riley -- $7.672 million
6. Dan Mullen -- $7.57 million
7. Jimbo Fisher -- $7.5 million
8. Kirby Smart -- $7.133 million
9. James Franklin -- $7 million
10. Ryan Day -- $6.614 million
"Another item, which I noted above - our recruiting and analyst staffs are much smaller than those tier one schools."
Simply not true, and easily verifiable through the Federal reports. Here is a list of the biggest football recruiting spenders. Penn State in the top 10, just behind Michigan for 2nd in the Big Ten. More than Ohio State, and more than all of the Big Ten programs who have to go much further geographically to reach recruits (like Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota and others). These numbers were taken from the Federal reports, not from some sports-talk guy on TV or radio.
Colleges That Spend the Most on Recruiting Football Players (yahoo.com)
Penn State's overall football operating budget, which includes things like "analysts", is sixth highest in the nation, and really 5th highest since Florida State was considered to have a higher budget only when they included the $18 million payout to fire their previous head coach.
Those that spent more than Penn State were Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Notre Dame, and none of them by a whole lot more.
Among those who spent less than Penn State were Georgia, Michigan, Oklahoma, LSU, Texas A&M, and everyone else.
Is Penn State getting the biggest bang for their buck? Are they spending money efficiently? I don't know, but they, most certainly, are spending it at levels that match any program in the country.
Ohio State, Alabama and 23 More of the Most Expensive College Football Programs (yahoo.com)
But keep listening to sports talk media. You will likely be as well-informed as they are.
UGA football facilities: The $175 million upgrades (ajc.com)
$31 Million on an indoor facility (like Holuba Hall). Georgia did not even have an indoor facility until then. So, who was "behind"? And it was all funded by donations. Georgia is currently spending $80 million on their football facility (like Lasch). The Georgia renovations are going on right now, and expected to be completed in the next year or so. And it is 90% paid for already by donations. They also spent around $60 million on stadium renovations, which included, among other things, a Recruits Lounge (which Penn State already had). $53 million of the $60 Million was raised via donations before they built it.
Penn State is currently spending $109 million to renovate Lasch, all with debt taken on that is the responsibility of the University, and there is only one revenue source that is liable for paying off that debt. That revenue source is tuition money. For what it's worth, Clemson spent far less than that, far less than $109 million, about half as much, to build their new football facility a couple years ago. Clemson football has changed the game in college athletics facilities (greenvilleonline.com)
I don't remember Clemson fans, or Dabo Swinney, complaining that they were not spending enough. Maybe they were too busy polishing trophies.
If Penn State Athletics could pay for $109 Million Lasch renovations by cutting some non-revenue sports, they would have, probably, done it. But at $1 million or less per year in savings by cutting a typical non-revenue sport, that isn't really going to help much.
Unlike other public universities, Penn State does not disclose it's individual assistants salaries, but they do have to provide information on the total spending for the 11-member coaching staff (head coach and 10 assistants), as required by the Federal Government. As of the last reporting year, 2019 football season, Penn State spent $17,820.047 on coaching salaries.
Since then, they hired Yurcich at around $1.5 Million, and paid around $1 million as a buyout to get rid of the previous offensive coordinator, and have seen Franklin's salary increase by another $1 million. How many programs pay more? The answer is less than 10.
You copied and pasted from a list of head coach's salaries that doesn't include Franklin. What you didn't do was look through the whole list, or you would have seen Franklin's salary is indeed among the top 10, but the listed it at the bottom with a note that Penn State doesn't make salary figures public, even though we know what those figures are (both because they are included in the Federal reports, and Mark Wogenrich, and others, have listed them out in detail)
Here they are with Frankin included - and he is top 10, and the highest in the entire Big Ten.
USA Today releases 2021 edition of highest-paid FBS head coaches - Footballscoop
1. Nick Saban -- $9.753 million
2. Ed Orgeron -- $9.012 million
3. Dabo Swinney -- $9.508 million
4. David Shaw -- $8.924 million
5. Lincoln Riley -- $7.672 million
6. Dan Mullen -- $7.57 million
7. Jimbo Fisher -- $7.5 million
8. Kirby Smart -- $7.133 million
9. James Franklin -- $7 million
10. Ryan Day -- $6.614 million
"Another item, which I noted above - our recruiting and analyst staffs are much smaller than those tier one schools."
Simply not true, and easily verifiable through the Federal reports. Here is a list of the biggest football recruiting spenders. Penn State in the top 10, just behind Michigan for 2nd in the Big Ten. More than Ohio State, and more than all of the Big Ten programs who have to go much further geographically to reach recruits (like Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota and others). These numbers were taken from the Federal reports, not from some sports-talk guy on TV or radio.
Colleges That Spend the Most on Recruiting Football Players (yahoo.com)
Penn State's overall football operating budget, which includes things like "analysts", is sixth highest in the nation, and really 5th highest since Florida State was considered to have a higher budget only when they included the $18 million payout to fire their previous head coach.
Those that spent more than Penn State were Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Notre Dame, and none of them by a whole lot more.
Among those who spent less than Penn State were Georgia, Michigan, Oklahoma, LSU, Texas A&M, and everyone else.
Is Penn State getting the biggest bang for their buck? Are they spending money efficiently? I don't know, but they, most certainly, are spending it at levels that match any program in the country.
Ohio State, Alabama and 23 More of the Most Expensive College Football Programs (yahoo.com)
But keep listening to sports talk media. You will likely be as well-informed as they are.
When does the school go on the offensive and call his "bluff?" I think there is precedent to schools "leaking" information that a coach may be on the hot seat or that the school leadership is "receiving pressure" to make a coaching change. Not that Penn State would ever do this, but if they ever decide to roll around with Franklin and his scum agent, it might be time to start putting the heat back on James. I mean come on now, could USC or LSU really justify hiring a coach that is soon to be 11-10 or 10-11 in 2 seasons to their fanbase? I have looked at other team boards and such and most fanbases think Franklin is a clown. The school should tell James they are having a tough enough trying to sell him to our own fanbase at this point.
I'm not angry. I'm just asking how much does PSU have to spend to satisfy Jame Franklin and how do they pay for it? No one seems to want to answer that.
Don't commingle spending for stadium renovations and that for training and office facilities. $480mm might be a down payment on what Beaver Stadium needs and the full amount of the Ryan's gift isn't going toward their namesake.
Pate is a clueless fanboy. He might be surprised if he took a closer look at UGa. Actually, I doubt that he'd find anything or comprehend it if he did.
I don’t know how many times I need to post this - but I DO NOT think Franklin is the guy, nor do I think he is worth the salaries being thrown around in this thread. I specifically said we should make him ride out his current contract with Allar/Singleton and see where we stand in a year or two. I don’t know why I’m being painted as pro-Franklin because I do wish the football program would restructure its budget and money flow.
Regardless of coach, I think if we want to consistently compete for a playoff spot we’ll need to substantially increase the quality of facilities and resources. We’re competing with OSU - we’re already at every disadvantage, why wouldn’t we want to level the playing field as far as resources? Give any coach that’s here equal footing, at least in that department?
Otherwise, I think fans should stop bitching about every 7,8,9 win season thinking that we’re still playing in the 80s. This program’s prime has passed - its time to modernize and understand the competition. Or everyone should chill out and realize our ceiling is 10-2 record every couple of years. Those that are spending the most, typically find themselves at the top of the playoff (and recruiting) rankings. It is what it is. It’s the same 5-6 schools every year.
I recently texted an OSU friend and said “Day will look good on Denver’s sideline next year!” His response: “It won’t matter. We’re a football factory. Plug and play every year into the playoff.” Can’t really say I disagree.
Regardless of coach, I think if we want to consistently compete for a playoff spot we’ll need to substantially increase the quality of facilities and resources. We’re competing with OSU - we’re already at every disadvantage, why wouldn’t we want to level the playing field as far as resources? Give any coach that’s here equal footing, at least in that department?
Otherwise, I think fans should stop bitching about every 7,8,9 win season thinking that we’re still playing in the 80s. This program’s prime has passed - its time to modernize and understand the competition. Or everyone should chill out and realize our ceiling is 10-2 record every couple of years. Those that are spending the most, typically find themselves at the top of the playoff (and recruiting) rankings. It is what it is. It’s the same 5-6 schools every year.
I recently texted an OSU friend and said “Day will look good on Denver’s sideline next year!” His response: “It won’t matter. We’re a football factory. Plug and play every year into the playoff.” Can’t really say I disagree.
All well and good. OSU's athletic department generates sufficient cash to fund its spending on all the good stuff. PSU's does not, at least not to the level that Franklin seems to want. So where does the money come from?
As far as facilities, there was a post on another site that the staff has feedback from some top recruits we missed on about facilities. We are subpar on athlete housing, recovery facilities, and indoor practice areas. It’s not just about water slides and game rooms.
TV told them to be excited about him. Sort of like Mel Tucker. One good year and he's a hot name. Forget everything prior.
Watch Dave Aranda get the name push now that he beat an awful Oklahoma team. Never mind his record last year with Rhule recruits.
Right. And I think that's the million(s) dollar question. I have no idea, that's a question way above my head.
But I think that's what Franklin/Sexton/AD approached the President and BOT about - there needs to be a new structure to the University's budget and cash flow + as well as new fundraising efforts to lure in the big donors. This is where I totally see your point - how do we do this? It's probably not possible with the current administration but there will be a new AD and President in place in a year. I would suppose we would go after someone with this type of experience, if this is the direction the BOT decides to go? I don't have the answers, nor do I know if that type of monster commitment is coming from the administration. But this conversation has been in the works since the end of last season - hence guys like Brandon Short and Lavar Arrington taking every possible media opportunity to talk about the need to upgrade resources to properly compete. Do we go all in on football like some of these other schools? Or settle in this top 25-ish spot we've found ourselves now?
Appreciate the back and forth though with you, regardless.
I need someone to show me something that indicates Matt Rhule wants to coach here.
So Rhule and Campbell would be on my short list if Franklin decides to leave, I don’t get people thinking they would be an upgrade. What championships have they won?
Agree. Rhule has a solid track record + he'd probably shut down NJ/NY/EasternPA recruiting - but is his resume better than Franklin's? That's kind of why I'm in the boat of waiting this out another year or two. Let Franklin give it a go with Allar and Singleton and then see what other candidates out there when LSU, USC, and Florida aren't looking for coaches as well. I'd imagine Rhule would still be on the radar then as well too.
Well he did beat Franklin head to head while coaching Temple.
As much as I think facility/program upgrades are needed, they're not costing us games this year (and last, and the year before, and the year before that, etc.). We should be 9-1 this year. Unless a player apartment is going to suit up and play right tackle or be a quality back up QB for us, we need better on field coaching (gameday decisions, time management, etc.) and to ensure our depth is capable of playing at a very basic level if called upon. No amount of upgrades will fix that. At best, it maybe causes Franklin to be a bit less distracted. We can and should win with what we have, which should be beyond frustrating to everyone since we aren't. Focus on tackling, OL improvement, getting WRs more reps, etc. As long as fans buy into the perception that we can't win without spending hundreds of millions of dollars on facility improvements, people will continue to give Franklin a pass. 'Well, you know, Franklin keeps asking for money to keep us competitive with Ohio State and Alabama and he's not getting it!,' 'But, um, lost to Illinois in 9 OTs' - 'Right! Better player lounge we probably win!.'
Dare to dream. Rhule will bring LaVar, Munchak, Golden, Jay, etc. It will be a coaching staff of Penn Staters. Awesome.
nittany apartments, if that is what we are talking about, are terribly old and outdated.
Just a note - Sandy Barbour is NOT retiring. That was another of those sports-media things that was complete nonsense. She once said that Penn State is the place she could see retiring from, that she would like to stay at Penn State for the rest of her career. Not that she was retiring anytime soon. She is not.
But someone in the sports-media world, heard the word "retire" and immediately started reporting that she was retiring, and it became a lemming parade within hours.
LOL. Rhule. Is. Not. Coming. To. Penn State. Anytime. Soon.
He has an amazing contract at the absolute pinnacle of his profession. He’s at the top.
If things don’t work out at Carolina in a year or two AND if PSU’s job is open, then maybe. But it’s unlikely at best.
It seems so simple. Give WRs more reps? You think the WRs aren’t at practice or what. Improve the OL. Have you considered the players aren’t good enough.As much as I think facility/program upgrades are needed, they're not costing us games this year (and last, and the year before, and the year before that, etc.). We should be 9-1 this year. Unless a player apartment is going to suit up and play right tackle or be a quality back up QB for us, we need better on field coaching (gameday decisions, time management, etc.) and to ensure our depth is capable of playing at a very basic level if called upon. No amount of upgrades will fix that. At best, it maybe causes Franklin to be a bit less distracted. We can and should win with what we have, which should be beyond frustrating to everyone since we aren't. Focus on tackling, OL improvement, getting WRs more reps, etc. As long as fans buy into the perception that we can't win without spending hundreds of millions of dollars on facility improvements, people will continue to give Franklin a pass. 'Well, you know, Franklin keeps asking for money to keep us competitive with Ohio State and Alabama and he's not getting it!,' 'But, um, lost to Illinois in 9 OTs' - 'Right! Better player lounge we probably win!.'
Yea I don't think he is either but I don't like the choice of Campbell.
There is some of that. But yes, find more ways to not always be one player loss/injury away from disaster. Also, maybe don't throw a 20 yard pass on 4th and 2.
As much as I think facility/program upgrades are needed, they're not costing us games this year (and last, and the year before, and the year before that, etc.). We should be 9-1 this year. Unless a player apartment is going to suit up and play right tackle or be a quality back up QB for us, we need better on field coaching (gameday decisions, time management, etc.) and to ensure our depth is capable of playing at a very basic level if called upon. No amount of upgrades will fix that. At best, it maybe causes Franklin to be a bit less distracted. We can and should win with what we have, which should be beyond frustrating to everyone since we aren't. Focus on tackling, OL improvement, getting WRs more reps, etc. As long as fans buy into the perception that we can't win without spending hundreds of millions of dollars on facility improvements, people will continue to give Franklin a pass. 'Well, you know, Franklin keeps asking for money to keep us competitive with Ohio State and Alabama and he's not getting it!,' 'But, um, lost to Illinois in 9 OTs' - 'Right! Better player lounge we probably win!.'
Exactly, Franklin is attempting to control the narrative for on-field performance by substituting off-field short-comings. Franklin is a lot of things, I don't think he is particularly smart in playing this game. Penn State administrators may also be as diluted as him, but Penn State fans aren't stupid and very clearly Franklin thinks we are. You want to tell me your team is always going to be a couple points short of OSU because we were one or two players short in a recruiting class because of substandard football dorms? Fine, okay, let's have that discussion and let's commit to spending the money to closing that very small margin. But when you lose to Illinois and last year Maryland, at home, considering you empirically do have better recruits than them, don't pull my f*cking chain. Have our facilities gotten worse? Have our coaching salaries been reduced since we last had fairly substantial leads over OSU in 17 and 18? Have they degraded so much that it has caused us to be 10-9 over the last two years with losses Nebraska, Maryland, Iowa(twice), Indiana(!), etc? Franklin is very clearly trying to blame the University for his shortcomings. I have gone from moderately pro-Franklin to fiercely anti-Franklin over the past 4 weeks. He is acting like an entitled Millennial, underperforming while demanding more, it is total nonsense and the University is abrogating their duty not to start taking the fight back to James's lap, even if they do intend to retain him for a few more years. If nothing else, mid-season is not the time for James to be making power plays in the media and when asked. It's wholly unfair to his players, staff, fans and the university as a whole.
I don't care if he stays or goes at this point. He's 9-1 with a capable back-up QB and a half decent run game. Defense has done enough to win every game this year.
Franklin’s situation is interesting. He overplayed his hand so significantly this is not going to end well for either party. He apparently was trying to use leverage for a $70 million improvement to the facilities. Really reminiscent of a great CEO strategic thinker so focused on the future they forget about day to day execution which should be the fundamental priority. He now has zero leverage and I think he may leave end of this year to avoid getting fired next year by the new President and AD.
If he leaves we will be a mid pack BIG10 player at best. Kind of like we are now ironically. Will take the new guy 3-4 years unless they can pull off a Mel Tucker at MSU.
My prediction is James will leave and coach at the University of Washington. Less competitive, big city school. Low expectations. His wife is from that area as well. He hates the BIG as PSU is treated like the ugly step sister. A lateral move at best for him, but a better situation.
If he leaves we will be a mid pack BIG10 player at best. Kind of like we are now ironically. Will take the new guy 3-4 years unless they can pull off a Mel Tucker at MSU.
My prediction is James will leave and coach at the University of Washington. Less competitive, big city school. Low expectations. His wife is from that area as well. He hates the BIG as PSU is treated like the ugly step sister. A lateral move at best for him, but a better situation.
So he is just a backup QB, an offensive line, and running backs away from being really good? Is that acceptable in year 8?
As much as I think facility/program upgrades are needed, they're not costing us games this year (and last, and the year before, and the year before that, etc.). We should be 9-1 this year. Unless a player apartment is going to suit up and play right tackle or be a quality back up QB for us, we need better on field coaching (gameday decisions, time management, etc.) and to ensure our depth is capable of playing at a very basic level if called upon. No amount of upgrades will fix that. At best, it maybe causes Franklin to be a bit less distracted. We can and should win with what we have, which should be beyond frustrating to everyone since we aren't. Focus on tackling, OL improvement, getting WRs more reps, etc. As long as fans buy into the perception that we can't win without spending hundreds of millions of dollars on facility improvements, people will continue to give Franklin a pass. 'Well, you know, Franklin keeps asking for money to keep us competitive with Ohio State and Alabama and he's not getting it!,' 'But, um, lost to Illinois in 9 OTs' - 'Right! Better player lounge we probably win!.'
I totally get that and agree - again, I'm not lumping in Franklin with the additional resources. From what is rumored, we'll get additional resources regardless of who is coaching next season. Yes, Franklin wants them but it's becoming obvious around the University that we need to upgrade the program to at least appear we are on equal footing to OSU. I don't think Franklin is the guy either - but I do think there is a ceiling currently at PSU for any head coach, and raising that ceiling begins with additional amenities for the football program. For example, Rhule may be better on game day but I doubt he recruits at the level of Franklin - so we may have a better X&Os guy, but we still need the Barkleys, Parsons, YGM, Allar, Singleton, Gesicki, Owehs of the world if we're going to physically matchup with OSU every year.
Why do you think Allar is coming next year? Because of the money the AD was willing to dish to get a real OC/QB guy on the staff. Do you know why our QB room is so ******? Because we went with the budget hire of Ricky Rahne after Moorhead, and he misevaluated 4 straight QBs. You want better depth? If we have better living situations for our incoming freshman, maybe we sign guys like Lewis Cine/Nick Cross/Brian Bresee/Xavier Truss all of whom signed elsewhere and stated to the staff we weren't up to par with other schools that are courting them. There's give and take from both sides of this argument. I don't think we need all the bells and whistles like a water slide - but if you don't think those types of things carry weight with a teenager picking his college destination (when he can go ANYWHERE), then you haven't been paying attention to the current landscape of college football.
Franklin is an excellent salesman, but he is not an elite coach. The further that we get from the 2016 playoff (worthy) team, the more that his deficiencies are evident. This team is full of athletes, but is undisciplined and has underachieved as a team. The last 3 quarters of Iowa and the entire Illinois game were a painful slow death...very similar to the dark years 6-4 loss to Iowa. The 1Q trick plays against Michigan implied desperation. IMO, he cannot coach with the best, and he has likely maxed out his potential.
He was a very good hire during a very difficult time, but his constant flirting with anyone who may be interested is a distraction and has gotten played. Finding a new coach is a huge gamble, but it's time to call his bluff and check that Penn State heart.
He was a very good hire during a very difficult time, but his constant flirting with anyone who may be interested is a distraction and has gotten played. Finding a new coach is a huge gamble, but it's time to call his bluff and check that Penn State heart.
His Baylor contract supposedly stated no buyout for the PSU job, however that works. There was an article Oct 27,
supposedly stating he wasn't happy in the NFL, on Oct 29 he said he was in for the long haul. As they say where
there is smoke.
Now get Franklin to say he's in it for the long haul, or this is the place i want to be like Tomlin said.
So rumors have wings or they are shot down, in between positions are virtually filled.
I'm not convinced Rhule or anyone else recruits 'less better' at PSU than Franklin. Franklin is a great recruiter, but he needs something to sell - if he didn't, he would have recruited better at Vanderbilt. You can't blame four 4* QBs who didn't work out at PSU as 'misevaluated'. And I'd add the best QB we've had under his watch was a 3* prospect everyone wanted as a safety. Even with all the personnel issues we've had this year, we have lost three games by a total of 9 points.
Iowa - Led by 10 at the half.
Illinois - Led by 3 at the half.
Michigan - Led by 3 late in the 4th QTR.
Allar, when he committed, was a solid prospect but No. 89 overall (No. 6 QB) - not the top QB in the country as his ranking now reflects. I'm still not totally convinced he sticks with his commitment to PSU. We'll see.
I think this entire scenario is a pipe dream. Franklin is playing chicken with himself, if any of this is true. He has a brand new deal for four more years. If PSU is dumb enough to extend him this early, then he should take it. Nowhere to go but down for him.
Interesting all this talk about modernization of facilities yet a huge portion of the fan base is adamant about keeping names off the jerseys. Gonna continue to get more difficult to sell that to a high-profile player that wants his name front and center.
Unless Sandy Barbour gets hit by a truck, we are not going to have a new AD next year. The next President? Highly likely that they won't really care all that much. Even more unlikely, about 100% unlikely, that He or She would consider firing Franklin.
Franklin would have to be caught night-putting with the Dean's daughter, twice, to even be close to being fired. Whether he leaves on his own accord is, of course, a different story.
You can argue that they have not won a title, but neither did Franklin before he came here.
These two have won at Temple, Baylor, Toledo and Iowa State. Not exactly blue blood programs.
Independent sources have raved about their preparation and leadership.
If interested they would be worth an interview.
Rhule is a super impressive guy. He’d be amazing at PSU, but that’s a pipe dream.
So you think that Franklin, Sexton, and Barbour went to Barron and the Board and suggested that a certain sum be added to tuition bills to support the football program? That would surprise me. But if those clowns had the temerity to do that, screw 'em all and send them to hell.