I think the gas companies will be ahead of you. Why. Because it would take decades just building charging stations. EV have their place but hard to convince a trucker that delivers most good consumed by Americans that drive 24-7 that some type of fuel source Other than batteries will work.Ridden in one. The technology is scary and awesome. Not sure how long it would take me to trust it driving down the road going 75 without my hands on the wheel.
With that said. I have proclaimed since I rode in it that the minute they figure out how to charge those batteries in the same amount of time it does to fill a tank with gas, gas cars will be obsolete.
What is the point of this statement?Will always have a car that uses only gas.
Exactly. In 15 years electric vehicles already do everything better than a gas auto except for refuel and tow. That's it.Ridden in one. The technology is scary and awesome. Not sure how long it would take me to trust it driving down the road going 75 without my hands on the wheel.
With that said. I have proclaimed since I rode in it that the minute they figure out how to charge those batteries in the same amount of time it does to fill a tank with gas, gas cars will be obsolete.
Exactly. In 15 years electric vehicles already do everything better than a gas auto except for refuel and tow. That's it.
How about allow you to operate a vehicle more cheaply?What exactly do they do "better"?
How about allow you to operate a vehicle more cheaply?
Or is the idea of an electric car too much of a "lib" concept for you? Are you against fuel efficiency in general or do you look down on people who try to save money on gas? How about people who put solar panels on their home?
All that money you saved on gas will likely be put to your electric bill now. Especially if you have 3 or 4 cars to charge. Then you will probably have to have a special charging station wired into your circuit breaker box. I'm sure 4 cars would be to much of a load on one outlet. Also what do you do if you have no garage or an outside outlet? There's another expense with adding them.How about allow you to operate a vehicle more cheaply?
Or is the idea of an electric car too much of a "lib" concept for you? Are you against fuel efficiency in general or do you look down on people who try to save money on gas? How about people who put solar panels on their home?
Currently electric vehicles are about $650 per year cheaper to operate (fuel, maintenance and insurance) than conventional gas powered cars. Unfortunately, EVs are $10,000 to $15,000 more expensive to purchase than comparable gas cars. EV makers have to make a big dent in that gap for most people to want to switch. I am sure that can be done over time.How about allow you to operate a vehicle more cheaply?
Or is the idea of an electric car too much of a "lib" concept for you? Are you against fuel efficiency in general or do you look down on people who try to save money on gas? How about people who put solar panels on their home?
Probably going to get even more expensive to buy them with the prices of everything going up. I'm sure the people making the electric vehicles won't like that minimum wage jobs are starting to get $15+/hr. They will want their increase to. That of course will get passed down to the buyer. The cost of going green is getting more expensive by the day.Currently electric vehicles are about $650 per year cheaper to operate (fuel, maintenance and insurance) than conventional gas powered cars. Unfortunately, EVs are $10,000 to $15,000 more expensive to purchase. EV makers have to make a big dent in that gap for most people to want to switch. I am sure that can be done over time.
Lawmakers in DC are also looking at taxing EV mileage since they are currently free riders on our nation's infrastructure . Conventional cars pay the gas tax which maintains our roads and bridges.Probably going to get even more expensive to buy them with the prices of everything going up. I'm sure the people making the electric vehicles won't like that minimum wage jobs are starting to get $15+/hr. They will want their increase to. That of course will get passed down to the buyer. The cost of going green is getting more expensive by the day.
Lawmakers in DC are also looking at taxing EV mileage since they are currently free riders on our nation's infrastructure . Conventional cars pay the gas tax which maintains our roads and bridges.
Back in the early days of Tesla on their website they claimed that once their network of dealers were established that they would be able to swap batteries in the time of a fill up.Ridden in one. The technology is scary and awesome. Not sure how long it would take me to trust it driving down the road going 75 without my hands on the wheel.
With that said. I have proclaimed since I rode in it that the minute they figure out how to charge those batteries in the same amount of time it does to fill a tank with gas, gas cars will be obsolete.
Good thing that they rarely need to be worked on. Anything likely to break isn’t really different than any other vehicle.No interest. Nearest dealership is Cincinnati. No one here in Louisville knows how to work on them. I’ll pass on Tesla.
Back in the early days of Tesla on their website they claimed that once their network of dealers were established that they would be able to swap batteries in the time of a fill up.
If all EV makes standardized on 2 or 3 batteries and mounting then in the not to distant future you could have stations that allowed you to swap in quick order.
Son has a ct200h…they really like it.Batteries are still the biggest issue with hybrids, in that eventually they are expected to go bad. I had to replace one in a Prius (owned for 15 years though) but owned a Lexus ct200h for almost ten years, 100K miles, and never replaced it, in fact, local Lexus dealer said they had never replaced one. I sold it and gave the buyer a one year warranty on the battery in January, so I am half way in the clear, need it to last six more months.![]()
Son has a ct200h…they really like it.
Drive better, have better options, way less maintenance, cost less to operate, cost less to fuel.What exactly do they do "better"?
Drive better and have better options than what? Keep it apples to apples and we'll see how you rate.Drive better, have better options, way less maintenance, cost less to operate, cost less to fuel.
Drive better and have better options than what? Keep it apples to apples and we'll see how you rate.
Less maintenance/operation costs, fuel....well, are you comparing a $50K German car against an $80K Tesla? I guarantee you I won't come close to the $30 diff w/ a German model, for example.
All that money you saved on gas will likely be put to your electric bill now. Especially if you have 3 or 4 cars to charge. Then you will probably have to have a special charging station wired into your circuit breaker box. I'm sure 4 cars would be to much of a load on one outlet. Also what do you do if you have no garage or an outside outlet? There's another expense with adding them.
Just wait until there are millions of cars being charged at night in the summer with everyone running their air conditioners. That's when the power plants normally can ease up a bit after taxing them hard all day. Now you put all that extra wear and tear on them. Some states already struggle with keeping the power on. Now you likely have to build more power plants.
As bad as the economy is right now and will continue to be with all of the big spending going on, you probably won't see as many people out buying new vehicles. I'm about to pay off my car this year and it only has 70k miles on it. I sure as hell am not going to go buy something electric and have to start all over with another 5 to 6 years of car payments. I'll likely drive it until it falls apart years down the road.
^^ Still the post of the thread right here.All that money you saved on gas will likely be put to your electric bill now. Especially if you have 3 or 4 cars to charge. Then you will probably have to have a special charging station wired into your circuit breaker box. I'm sure 4 cars would be to much of a load on one outlet. Also what do you do if you have no garage or an outside outlet? There's another expense with adding them.
Just wait until there are millions of cars being charged at night in the summer with everyone running their air conditioners. That's when the power plants normally can ease up a bit after taxing them hard all day. Now you put all that extra wear and tear on them. Some states already struggle with keeping the power on. Now you likely have to build more power plants.
As bad as the economy is right now and will continue to be with all of the big spending going on, you probably won't see as many people out buying new vehicles. I'm about to pay off my car this year and it only has 70k miles on it. I sure as hell am not going to go buy something electric and have to start all over with another 5 to 6 years of car payments. I'll likely drive it until it falls apart years down the road.
The existing infrastructure isnt ready. Plus it's just swapping oil at the tank for oil at the outlet. Nothing changes with the environment.
You like performance? How many production gas powered vehicles you know that will do 0-60 in under 2 seconds? …and give you the cost equivalent of about 120 mpg.What exactly do they do "better"?
Only thing you need the dealership for is to buy the vehicle. We have a Tesla dealership across from our office and they do almost zero service work. Most of the “service” is done via a satellite link, doesn’t matter where the vehicle is.No interest. Nearest dealership is Cincinnati. No one here in Louisville knows how to work on them. I’ll pass on Tesla.
Only thing you need the dealership for is to buy the vehicle. We have a Tesla dealership across from our office and they do almost zero service work. Most of the “service” is done via a satellite link, doesn’t matter where the vehicle is.
You can't make the Tesla go faster though. There's no upgrades available. You can't put in a bigger motor or anything like that.You like performance? How many production gas powered vehicles you know that will do 0-60 in under 2 seconds?
You can't make the Tesla go faster though. There's no upgrades available. You can't put in a bigger motor or anything like that.
Yes, certainly not now.....nor in the short term, but a change will occur long term.
Drag strip, sticky surface, the right tires, traction control off, it's only going to go so fast and that's it. You can always make a gas powered car faster.You actually could. It's mainly just a computer programming upgrade. I don't know if they're out yet though. The computerized traction control actually slows acceleration times to 2-3 seconds 0-60. If it didn't, you'd roast the tires every time you breathed on the gas pedal.
I listened to a podcast with one of the drivers from a car magazine. They asked him about exotic cars but none were as big a deal with the staff as the awd S. He said the accountants, legal staff, etc all wanted to ride in it since it had ludicrous mode and they thought it was funny. The people with motorsports background loved it because of the constant torque, but the others weren't prepared, and some even got sick. He described it as brutal, and the lack of noise makes it weirder.You actually could. It's mainly just a computer programming upgrade. I don't know if they're out yet though. The computerized traction control actually slows acceleration times to 2-3 seconds 0-60. If it didn't, you'd roast the tires every time you breathed on the gas pedal.
As it should. But we should be beefing up our energy infrastructure not weakening it.
Drag strip, sticky surface, the right tires, traction control off, it's only going to go so fast and that's it. You can always make a gas powered car faster.
Are there any electric top fuel dragsters? Nope.You're right. You can always make a gas powered car faster because it has a margin to make faster. Electric acceleration is almost instant.....can't get faster than that.