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That's a over simplistic view of power production. Companies don't build generation resources because of MWhs. They build because of capacity shortages. The problem with renewable sources is they don't consistently provide capacity. They mainly provide energy (MWhs). That's why battery technology is so important. Unless that energy can stored and used later to provide capacity, then renewable energy has huge limitations. Even beyond that there are serious problems. From my professional discussions with power production engineers, there must be enough initial inertia to power certain industrial infrastructure, such as an arc furnace, for example. A battery does not have the capability to power a 200 MW arc furnace because it lacks the initial inertia to power it. It requires a high mass spinning rotor in order to keep it running. While technology is improving, there is still a lot to overcome before renewable sources can truly replace fossil fuel sources.

Interesting but throughout history as new technologies develop, challenges come with them, but we find ways to meet and resolve those challenges.

Compared to the complexity of equipment and the staffing needed to build and operate a coal-fired steam plant or a nuke plant, it's obvious that the simplicity of a solar farm or an offshore wind farm has potentially enormous economic advantages, notwithstanding the advantages regarding climate and health issues. The idea is not to flip the switch some day and turn 100% of our energy needs to renewables, rather it's to move as much as we can as quickly as we can in a safe, efficient and competent matter. As grid and battery capacity improves along with other tech improves we can do more of that.

We will always have some need fossil fuel products. Kerosene to power jet aircraft, petroleum to manufacture vinyl used in cars and furniture etc., nat gas to power generators in places where alt sources are impractical. etc., and petro-chemicals for manufacturing and agriculture.
 

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If that were true it might be a good thing to stop the influx of illegal immigrants into the country. They are an added strain on our resources. I believe the number of illegals that have crossed the border this year is over 711k. So it's pretty safe to say that number will reach 1+ million before the end of the year. That is unless they put a stop to it.

One million doesn't sound like much when compared to 330 million but that is a heck of a lot of food, water, and utilities being used. Plus many are not putting their money back into our economy as much as they should with them sending money back to their families in other countries.
The labor shortage and birthrate in the US says we need workers, but I believe the numbers you're looking at are people being stopped at the border. The vast majority of those are not allowed in the country so they are not here.
 

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Lol. Yup. I drive a truck, so speed isn’t a huge concern of mine usually. But if I could, I would get a mildly used Porsche as a fun car. I don’t race, so I don’t care if I have have a car that might not be the fastest. And I’m old enough that bragging rights mean little. Kentucky has such great twisty roads that favor a Porsche’ handling. And it’s way more prestigious than a redneck Camaro/Mustang. But to each their own.
Oh my!!!

My wife and I get into a spat when I say Camaros and Mustangs are redneck cars. She owned a Camaro in college 40 years ago.
 
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If that were true it might be a good thing to stop the influx of illegal immigrants into the country. They are an added strain on our resources. I believe the number of illegals that have crossed the border this year is over 711k. So it's pretty safe to say that number will reach 1+ million before the end of the year. That is unless they put a stop to it.

One million doesn't sound like much when compared to 330 million but that is a heck of a lot of food, water, and utilities being used. Plus many are not putting their money back into our economy as much as they should with them sending money back to their families in other countries.
Many individuals coming to the United States from Central America are fleeing violence, poverty, and corruption. But climate change is emerging as both a direct and an indirect driver of migration that complicates existing vulnerabilities. Persistent drought, fluctuating temperatures, and unpredictable rainfall have reduced crop yields throughout the Northern Triangle—a region that comprises El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala—challenging livelihoods and access to food in agriculturally dependent communities.


That's not to say these circumstances justify illegal entry into the US but it illustrates that people are fleeing unlivable conditions some of which is due to climate change. If you think the number of illegals crossing the boarder now is out of control wait another 5 or 10 years and multiple that number by 10,000 or more worldwide.

That's what concerns our DOD.
 

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Oh my!!!

My wife and I get into a spat when I say Camaros and Mustangs are redneck cars. She owned a Camaro in college 40 years ago.


I was born and raised mostly redneck.....soooooo, YES........YES, they are redneck cars. lol.

I love the idea of the Camaro/Mustang. The idea was to produce a quick car that the lesser earners could purchase......and at times over the last 60+ years they got it right......and at times they did not. But the mythos of them still makes me chuckle. My mother-in-law still goes on and on and on about the 1987 Mustang GT 5.0 that she had. Said it's the fastest car she's ever ridden in or driven. And I enjoy in telling her that her 2007 Nissan Altima V6 is just as quick 0-60 and easily outhandles her old Mustang......lol.......but she won't hear it.

I also have a chuckle at my wife's cousin. When he bought his fairly new Mustang GT he talked about how fast it is and how "it'll smoke anything on the road." I'd laugh and say, "Hey, you know you could've bought a Camry TRD, saved about $4,000, and hauled 5 people comfortably while posting just about the same 0-60 times? Or buy a Civic R or Subaru STI that's just as quick 0-60, but will kill it on the track?"

Later on he dumped crap load of more money into it and came at me saying, "Hey, I bet it's faster than all those other cars you mentioned before......" And I'd retort, "Yup, you're right......but now you dumped $40-50,000 into a Mustang when for the same price you could've had a BMW, a slightly used Porsche, a slightly used Corvette, etc....."
 
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Many individuals coming to the United States from Central America are fleeing violence, poverty, and corruption. But climate change is emerging as both a direct and an indirect driver of migration that complicates existing vulnerabilities. Persistent drought, fluctuating temperatures, and unpredictable rainfall have reduced crop yields throughout the Northern Triangle—a region that comprises El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala—challenging livelihoods and access to food in agriculturally dependent communities.


That's not to say these circumstances justify illegal entry into the US but it illustrates that people are fleeing unlivable conditions some of which is due to climate change. If you think the number of illegals crossing the boarder now is out of control wait another 5 or 10 years and multiple that number by 10,000 or more worldwide.

That's what concerns our DOD.
It might not be this bad if we didn't just open the door and say come on in. We have had/will always have people trying to get in the country because of the reasons you mentioned but it has been much worse this year and probably wouldn't have been if we continued to wall up the border and police it like we were.

Unfortunately they made it political and then realized their mistakes by sending the border czar to Guatemala to tell them not to come. Now we will be suffering the consequences of these actions for the foreseeable future. Billions of dollars that could help with infrastructure (like improving the power situation for these electric vehicles) will probably have to go to taking care of all of these border crossers.
 

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If that were true it might be a good thing to stop the influx of illegal immigrants into the country. They are an added strain on our resources. I believe the number of illegals that have crossed the border this year is over 711k. So it's pretty safe to say that number will reach 1+ million before the end of the year. That is unless they put a stop to it.

One million doesn't sound like much when compared to 330 million but that is a heck of a lot of food, water, and utilities being used. Plus many are not putting their money back into our economy as much as they should with them sending money back to their families in other countries.
We were all immigrants at one time. They like all other immigrants become more and more productive with time.
So instead of sending money home should they just bring all that family here so that the money can stay in the states?
So how many immigrants does it take to equal the amount of money sent overseas when someone purchases a new yacht, a new Ferrari, a new Porsche, a Bentley…when they put money in an offshore bank account…or simply take a cruise?
They would be eating food, needing water, using utilities regardless of where they were so that is a wash.
 

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It might not be this bad if we didn't just open the door and say come on in. We have had/will always have people trying to get in the country because of the reasons you mentioned but it has been much worse this year and probably wouldn't have been if we continued to wall up the border and police it like we were.

Unfortunately they made it political and then realized their mistakes by sending the border czar to Guatemala to tell them not to come. Now we will be suffering the consequences of these actions for the foreseeable future. Billions of dollars that could help with infrastructure (like improving the power situation for these electric vehicles) will probably have to go to taking care of all of these border crossers.
Why not put them to work? I have heard much consternation about people needing workers. Where should these workers come from? People risking life and limb to get to the border would certainly appreciate a $15 hour job at Amazon more than the homegrown talent does.
 

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Why not put them to work? I have heard much consternation about people needing workers. Where should these workers come from? People risking life and limb to get to the border would certainly appreciate a $15 hour job at Amazon more than the homegrown talent does.
Most do intend to work when they come here, and that's another reason we need comprehensive immigration reform. The temporary worker program needs to be expanded to serve agriculture, hospitality and other industries. That way workers would have legal status, and ability to stay and work temporarily and then return home. We would know better who's in the country, where they are and their status.
 
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Why not put them to work? I have heard much consternation about people needing workers. Where should these workers come from? People risking life and limb to get to the border would certainly appreciate a $15 hour job at Amazon more than the homegrown talent does.
How about stop paying people to not work and getting everyone back in the workforce? There's plenty of workers for all these jobs already here. You bring in more immigrants to fill these jobs and we're stuck taking care of the freeloaders who chose not to work because they made more in unemployment. Then all that unemployment money could go toward improving the infrastructure in the country.
 

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How about stop paying people to not work and getting everyone back in the workforce? There's plenty of workers for all these jobs already here. You bring in more immigrants to fill these jobs and we're stuck taking care of the freeloaders who chose not to work because they made more in unemployment. Then all that unemployment money could go toward improving the infrastructure in the country.
We had a worker shortage before the pandemic began. The restructuring of the economy during the pandemic means a lot of those unemployed folks will have to look in new industries or they already found a new job they like better than their old one. Meanwhile their old job needs someone to fill their place. This is especially true in the food service industry. People just don't want to work in that industry for minimum wage anymore.
 

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I can build an 8 second 1/4 mile drag car for around 10k starting with nothing. What's the cost to do that with an electric vehicle? Electric is the future but that future ain't next year.
Could you kinda give a rough description of that car? I'm a drag racer wondering how many 8 second cars youve built that cost anywhere close to 10K?
 

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As expected with California and their power problems.

"Now is the perfect time to do a load of laundry," the state's Flex Alert Twitter account posted on June 18. "Remember to use major appliances, charge cars and devices before #FlexAlert begins at 6 p.m. today."

They expect you to make dinner, do the laundry, and charge your car before 6 pm. Just think what it will be like as thousands more electric cars start being bought and needing to be charged.

https://www.newsweek.com/california...s-over-electric-car-charging-routines-1602755
 
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We had a worker shortage before the pandemic began. The restructuring of the economy during the pandemic means a lot of those unemployed folks will have to look in new industries or they already found a new job they like better than their old one. Meanwhile their old job needs someone to fill their place. This is especially true in the food service industry. People just don't want to work in that industry for minimum wage anymore.

We are well below the # of employed pre-pandemic. The shortage then doesn't hold a candle to what is going on currently.