Anyone sad for Notre Dame?

RolexKong

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ND has a point and they stood up for it. More than what maybe 95% of other schools would do. I'll take the minority position and give them credit.
 

KingLando

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ND has a point and they stood up for it. More than what maybe 95% of other schools would do. I'll take the minority position and give them credit.
99% of other schools can't do that because they're in a conference without getting a heavy fine.
I agree with you but they're in a different spot than almost everyone
 

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99% of other schools can't do that because they're in a conference without getting a heavy fine.
I agree with you but they're in a different spot than almost everyone
Apparently the only conference that has it written in its rules is the Big 12.
 

KingLando

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Apparently the only conference that has it written in its rules is the Big 12.
That's not true...all conferences do
Any team that is bowl eligible must go or they will be fined and lose the bowl payout
This does not apply to 5-7 teams if you're under the impression Rutgers FSU Auburn and Temple are why it's "apparently" only the Big XII...just like Baylor wasn't fined.
 

RolexKong

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That's not true...all conferences do
Any team that is bowl eligible must go or they will be fined and lose the bowl payout
This does not apply to 5-7 teams if you're under the impression Rutgers FSU Auburn and Temple are why it's "apparently" only the Big XII...just like Baylor wasn't fined.
Prove it.
 

KingLando

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Prove it.
Lol...so I was right about why you misunderstood and now want me to prove to you why it's true
See Marshall being fined last year
See us and countless others not opting out
This has long been discussed/known which is why as soon as someone said the Big XII was getting 1.5M I corrected it before any announcement
My God...you all can't stand that you don't know things. Do your own research and educate yourself if you're unwilling to listen
 

RolexKong

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Lol...so I was right about why you misunderstood and now want me to prove to you why it's true
See Marshall being fined last year
See us and countless others not opting out
This has long been discussed/known which is why as soon as someone said the Big XII was getting 1.5M I corrected it before any announcement
My God...you all can't stand that you don't know things. Do your own research and educate yourself if you're unwilling to listen
You could have saved yourself some typing by saying you can't prove it.
 
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KingLando

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You could have saved yourself some typing by saying you can't prove it.
Why would I Google information I already know?
You thought FSU, Auburn, Rutgers and Temple proved you right whichil is why you said "apparently" then got mad I explained it.
 

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There are some salty ND fans out there today... man you can feel the heat coming off them. Bottom line to me is like it or not ND you are being told to join a conference. Up to ND whether they listen or not. If they don't it's likely they will end up in this position again.
 
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ND has a point and they stood up for it. More than what maybe 95% of other schools would do. I'll take the minority position and give them credit.
Does their bowl refusal move the meter for any CFP member? They (ND) are making the connection between bowls and playoffs; not anyone else.
 

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In an expanded playoff we would have been in
Ohio State being in over us wasn't even a debate. They had a much better resume.
Maybe we should have beat Pitt or Michigan...
Yes, they certainly should have beaten Pitt or Michigan. I'm a little less likely to dismiss head-to-head than you. I just couldn't recall another time that a Big 10 champion was excluded from a playoff of any size. I just feel that this refutes the above statement "Play in a league like everyone else and you'll be treated like everyone else".
 

KingLando

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Yes, they certainly should have beaten Pitt or Michigan. I'm a little less likely to dismiss head-to-head than you. I just couldn't recall another time that a Big 10 champion was excluded from a playoff of any size. I just feel that this refutes the above statement "Play in a league like everyone else and you'll be treated like everyone else".
I get the frustration but I don't understand any logic of an 11-1 Ohio State getting left out for losing by 3 points on the road against a team that finished in the top 5. Especially when they beat Michigan while we lost to them by about 40 (iirc)--and we lost to Pitt.
I mean, if the situation was reversed I would have expected the Big Ten to support us.
Of course, this is why I've wanted a large playoff since the early 90s.
 

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I get the frustration but I don't understand any logic of an 11-1 Ohio State getting left out for losing by 3 points on the road against a team that finished in the top 5. Especially when they beat Michigan while we lost to them by about 40 (iirc)--and we lost to Pitt.
I mean, if the situation was reversed I would have expected the Big Ten to support us.
Of course, this is why I've wanted a large playoff since the early 90s.
Why? Because the previous year the selection committee said conference champs matter. Their words. They then flipped on the same exact issue. Why do we even have a selection committee? Conference champs should be in. There should be a set criteria IN WRITING. Then stick to it.
 

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Why? Because the previous year the selection committee said conference champs matter. Their words. They then flipped on the same exact issue. Why do we even have a selection committee? Conference champs should be in. There should be a set criteria IN WRITING. Then stick to it.
They did matter--they just didn't trump everything else
If you want criteria--we need a superconference set up like any pro league where the top 2-3 teams in each division make the playoffs. Just like all other college sports, it won't work in the current format. The reason college football is a bigger deal is the playoff is so limited--which is why it needs to double in size and match FCS. No one was going to be too angry debating Arizona/Michigan for the last spot.
 

rigi19040

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They did matter--they just didn't trump everything else
If you want criteria--we need a superconference set up like any pro league where the top 2-3 teams in each division make the playoffs. Just like all other college sports, it won't work in the current format. The reason college football is a bigger deal is the playoff is so limited--which is why it needs to double in size and match FCS. No one was going to be too angry debating Arizona/Michigan for the last spot.


The year before it did trump it.
 

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Why would they? They have their own TV deal and have to split that money with nobody. It would be stupid to
This is a valid argument. I forgot that Virginia would have gotten in as one of the five highest ranked conference champions, and Miami was given an at-large slot.
Completely disagree. They gave to Miami because metrics were almost identical, Miami had a better “best win”, Miami beat three common opponents by more pts. than ND did and, alas, the now seemingly meaningless( to data heads) but still clearest determining factor …head to head. Not even tough call.
Nd Never led that game and their star back held to 33 yards.
 

KingLando

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The year before it did trump it.
What are you talking about? In 2015, a 2 loss conf champ didn't make it over a 1-loss runner up
Michigan State beat Iowa and was 12-1. Ohio State was 11-1 and didn't beat Michigan State
You're not talking about the Big Ten so what conference are you speaking about. None of the 4 meet that criteria
 

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Yes, they certainly should have beaten Pitt or Michigan. I'm a little less likely to dismiss head-to-head than you. I just couldn't recall another time that a Big 10 champion was excluded from a playoff of any size.
Look at 2018. tOSU only had 1-loss.

In addition, there were many times during a size of 2 when the Big 10 champ wasn’t included. You included the “any size” comment.

Can we quit bringing up 2016? Our boys weren’t going to win anything anyways, which they proved by losing to a 3-loss team when scoring 49 points. It’s the longest running wanna have a participation trophy complaint I’ve ever read.
 
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Alabama, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Oregon, Tulane, JMU...these teams have no shot at all to win the playoff. None. Notre Dame could win it.
I’ll bet you a trillion dollars they cannot win it. They have exactly 0.000000% chance of winning it. Stop your whining and go play in a bowl game.
 
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If there is one issue that can unite PSU, OSU and scUM fans it is hatred of ND.

Initially I was very put off by the ND decision. Then I heard this morning on XM that ESPN stands to lose $35M by ND bailing on a bowl game.

The more that I think about it maybe it was an appropriate response to the incestuous relationship between ESPN and the SEC/ACC.
I heard that $35M figure too. I’m very skeptical it anywhere near accurate.
 
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If you want a real laugh look at ND’s 2026 schedule - 9 home games against cupcakes and the toughest road game is Syracuse - they shouldn’t get into the CFP net year even if they go undefeated.
They're schedule is almost always soft, especially with USC being down.

They're angry the ACC pushed Miami over them? Well, Miami is a full ACC member. ND is not.
 
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