Arkansas radio reporting that according to sources in Bham

[615dawg]

If Texas A&M and Texas bolt for the Pac 10, the SEC is prepared to invite Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami and Virginia Tech.

Clemson is apparently out of the picture.

 

[615dawg]

If Texas A&M and Texas bolt for the Pac 10, the SEC is prepared to invite Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami and Virginia Tech.

Clemson is apparently out of the picture.

 

[ckDOG]

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[Shmuley]

and a f'n hellacious baseball conference that would be.

 

[57stratdawg]

I was under the impression that the vibe around SEC Meetings was that SEC expansion was not likely.<div>
</div><div>I dont see how Texas and TAM (who the SEC hasn't officially offered or anything) going to the PAC 10, would cause the SEC to want to add 4 teams from the East. 3 of which come from a TV market (Florida) which we already have a substantial part in.</div>

 

[Paper Dog]

Gene Stallings has been the middle man in all of that

 

[Steakonastick]

if the pac 10 goes to to the pac 16 the sec is going to have to add teams. There is already talks that the new pac 16 would push for 2 bcs automatic berths. And if you look at what teams you would add if you were the sec. Who would you want LA Tech, Memphis, Southern Miss, Troy, Middle Tenn, FSU, Miami, G.T. Clemson, V.T. North Caronlina. Who would you add if you were slive to make the conference better? The Sec is not going to stand around and let anybody get more conference bcs bids.

Id Divide them up like this

Sec West
LSU
Ark
State
**@@
Bama
Auburn
FSU
Georgia Tech


East
Florida
Miami
Georgia
Tenn
S.C.
V.T.
Kentucky
Vandy

 

[615dawg]

but it seems like there is still talk with Texas/Texas A&M.

Sounds like Texas and Texas A&M have the opportunity to move to the SEC instead of the Pac 10, but without Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.

If they want to stay together, it will be the Pac 10 for all of them.

I actually like how the DDDY is doing this. Very ninja like.

 

[ckDOG]

Seeing that his dad is the TAMU AD. I can't think of a better link between them and the SEC than that.

Look at Byrne, still being all Ninja-like.

 

[615dawg]

SEC Southwest
Texas
Texas A&M
Arkansas
LSU

SEC West
Alabama
Auburn
MSU
Ole Miss

SEC East
Tennessee
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech

SEC Southeast
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
South Carolina

Every team plays their division opponent and a rotating division each two years.
MSU's permanent opponents would be: Ole Miss, Alabama and Auburn.
Year 1 would be @ Texas, Texas A&M, @ Arkansas, LSU
Year 2 would be Texas, @ Texas A&M, Arkansas, @LSU
Year 3 would be @ Tennessee, Kentucky, @ Vandy, Virginia Tech
Year 4 would be Tennessee, @Kentucky, Vandy, @ Virginia Tech
Year 5 would be @ Florida, Florida State, @ Georgia, USC
Year 6 would be Florida, @ FSU, Georgia, @USC

Four division winners have a four team playoff in football.

Basketball would be a true round robin with home and home against intra-division rival.
Texas-Texas A&M
LSU-Arkansas
MSU-Ole Miss
Alabama-Auburn
Tennessee-Kentucky
Virginia Tech-Vandy
Florida-FSU
USC-Georgia

Big East styled Basketball Tournament
Bottom 8 teams play on Wednesday, winners play 2nd place divisional teams on Thursday
winners play divisional winners on Friday and tournament plays out

Baseball keeps the 10 3-game series format. 3 permanent divisional opponents, 2 cross divisional permanent opponents, 5 rotating opponents each 2 years
MSU permanent divisional: Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn
Cross divisional permanent: LSU, Georgia
Year 1/2: Texas, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky
Year 3/4: USC, Florida, Florida State, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech

Divisional winners and next four make the most hellacious baseball tournament possible.

 

[Johnson85]

if the pac 10 goes to to the pac 16 the sec is going to have to add teams...if you look at what teams you would add if you were the sec. Who would you want LA Tech, Memphis, Southern Miss, Troy, Middle Tenn, FSU, Miami, G.T. Clemson, V.T. North Caronlina. Who would you add if you were slive to make the conference better? The Sec is not going to stand around and let anybody get more conference bcs bids.

Why does the PAC 10 going to the PAC 16 require the SEC to add teams? The PAC 10 is adding completely new tv markets, which will bring in significantly more money per school. And the SEC would respond by picking up 3 teams where they already have a significant market present, plus V.T.? I have trouble seeing that.

I could see adding FSU, GT., but that would hardly be a home run for the DDDY and should probably be considered a loss if it doesn't come with the virginia and north carolina markets.Miami Idon't think brings anything to the table. Too small to bring huge amounts of revenue in and it's not like being in the SEC will make it easy for them to return to national prominence (except itwill make their basketball team look better).

 

[o_1984Dawg]

and go to 9 games instead of your 7. And call them North, East, Central (State, UM, Bama, Auburn), and West, not that it matters. I would say our 3 would be A&M/Ark, UK, and FSU/SC.

If we don't get one of the TX teams I don't really think we should expand at all. And actually I think it'd be best for A&M to come to the SEC and for UT to go to the Pac 10. If we could grab A&M and an ACC team and stop at 14 that would be good too.

 

[57stratdawg]

if the pac 10 goes to to the pac 16 the sec is going to have to add teams...if you look at what teams you would add if you were the sec. Who would you want LA Tech, Memphis, Southern Miss, Troy, Middle Tenn, FSU, Miami, G.T. Clemson, V.T. North Caronlina. Who would you add if you were slive to make the conference better? The Sec is not going to stand around and let anybody get more conference bcs bids.

Why does the PAC 10 going to the PAC 16 require the SEC to add teams? The PAC 10 is adding completely new tv markets, which will bring in significantly more money per school. And the SEC would respond by picking up 3 teams where they already have a significant market present, plus V.T.? I have trouble seeing that.

I could see adding FSU, GT., but that would hardly be a home run for the DDDY and should probably be considered a loss if it doesn't come with the virginia and north carolina markets.Miami Idon't think brings anything to the table. Too small to bring huge amounts of revenue in and it's not like being in the SEC will make it easy for them to return to national prominence (except itwill make their basketball team look better).

I agree, I'm calling BS on this whole thread. 2 BCS bids for Pac-16 isn't going to happen either. <div>
</div><div>Plus, we're talking about Arkansas Radio here.</div>

 

[BigMotherTucker]

1984Dawg[/b]]and go to 9 games instead of your 7. And call them N, E, S, and W, not that it matters. We'd be the south. Or call it Central. Kinda weird to still call us the West with all the SWteams much farther west. I would say our 3 would be A&M/Ark, UK, and FSU/SC.

If we don't get one of the TX teams I don't really think we should expand at all. And actually I think it'd be best for A&M to come to the SEC and for UT to go to the Pac 10. If we could grab A&M and an ACC team and stop at 14 that would be good too.

Ifsuper conferencesstart forming we best be part of it. Its best to be on the cutting edge with this than the bleeding edge. Addingteams to our conference is all about money. A 16 team Pac10 (16) and Big10 (16) will be way more attractive than a12 team SEC to the networks. Im really surprised that wewerent the first to start pulling in teams instead of just reacting to the other conferences.

 

[Oxford Godfrey]

Per Arkansas Radio is about like saying Per Bleacher Report.

 

[o_1984Dawg]

We should be prudent about adding schools and not just add to add. I don't think we gain a lot from ACC football schools. We should be pushing hard for Texas and A&M because they add real value and maybe OU and OSU as well. When you get to talking raiding the ACC, I don't know that it's worth it.

 

[FISHDAWG]

If Texas A&M and Texas bolt for the Pac 10, the SEC is prepared to invite Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami and Virginia Tech.

Clemson is apparently out of the picture.

I thought these guys were invitedlast time prior to the current expansion and turned us down for the big easy ... sorry, I meant big east ..... I say let them rot in the sorry conference that they chose back then ... besides if it aint broke.........

 

[Johnson85]

If you have two divisions, that's 7 against your division and either
(a) 1 game against a nondivision opponent, in which case it takes 8 years to rotate through the conference or
(b) 2 games against a nondivision opponent, in which case you have issues with some teams having 5 conference away games v. 4 conference home games, or
(c) 3 games against a nondivision opponent, in which case you end up without a lot of flexibility in your non-conference games.

If you have four divisions, and can have a conference playoff, then I could see three superconferences forming that result in the teams left out playing in what people view as minor leagues just because of the excitement surrounding winning the conference championship, but I'm not sure that's likely.

 

[Agentdog]

There have been numerous times, even recently, that an SEC or sports related subject is discussed on this message board. Then a couple of days later it is a hot topic on Little Rock's sports radio. Reminds me of that line from O'brother Where Art Thou......."Ain't this place a geographical oddity. Two hours from every where." So true....Arkansas is a very insular state.

I imagine today or in a couple of days......they will be discussing why Texas should stay in the Big12 and wait on the SEC.

Oh, and Arkansas radio's (103.7 The Buzz) source in Bham is JOX and/or Finebaum.

 

[HireCohen]

I just don't understand why if Texas and A&M are going to leave the Big 12, which looks likely because of the Nebraska and Colorado situation why wouldn't the SEC extend invites to these schools. They would have natural rivalries because of the old Southwestern conference. It just seems much more logical to play games against Arkansas and LSU and the rest of the SEC instead of going to a conference that you really have nothing in common with. They would also make more money in the SEC. Just don't understand and am hearing if the Pac 16 comes to fruition that the SEC may invite FSU and other schools within the ACC. Seems to me Texas and A&M should be first priority.

 

[Henry Kissinger]

i think that the SEC needs to be an eastern balance to a PAC16, but i'd prefer 14 teams with 2 nonconference games and no fixed opponent.

west
msu
ole miss
texas
a&m
lsu
arkansas
kentucky

east
vandy
tennessee
florida
auburn
alabama
georgia
tennessee

that keeps texas-texas a&m, bama-tennessee, florida-georgia, tennessee-vanderbilt, lsu-arkansas, lsu-ole miss, msu - ole miss, bama-auburn. it'd bring back arkansas games against texas and a&m from the southwest days

the strength would be weighted a little toward the east, but i think it's fair enough, and it'd help the mississippi schools. we really could win the division in the right year. there'd be two national contenders in each division (texas, lsu; bama, florida)

i think it'd be good for basketball too. we wouldn't win west titles anymore, but if we did win one it would mean something. it'd be good for baseball. texas is a national brand. a&m would secure the state.

 

[AROB44]

i think that the SEC needs to be an eastern balance to a PAC16, but i'd prefer 14 teams with 2 nonconference games and no fixed opponent.

west
msu
ole miss
texas
a&m
lsu
arkansas
kentucky

east
vandy
tennessee
florida
auburn
alabama
georgia
tennessee

that keeps texas-texas a&m, bama-tennessee, florida-georgia, tennessee-vanderbilt, lsu-arkansas, lsu-ole miss, msu - ole miss, bama-auburn. it'd bring back arkansas games against texas and a&m from the southwest days

the strength would be weighted a little toward the east, but i think it's fair enough, and it'd help the mississippi schools. <font color="#9900cc">we really could win the division in the right year</font>. there'd be two national contenders in each division (texas, lsu; bama, florida)

i think it'd be good for basketball too. we wouldn't win west titles anymore, but if we did win one it would mean something. it'd be good for baseball. texas is a national brand. a&m would secure the state.

Win the division in what.....disc golf. It sure won't happen in football, basketball andprobably baseball. This is NOT a good thing for us or OM when it comes to winning anything. Maybe $$$$ but that is all. We both will continue to struggle just to be in the middle of the pack.

 

[mstatedawgs]

<div>http://www.kctv5.com/sports/23860558/detail.html</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><b class="Dateline">KANSAS CITY, Mo. --[/b]</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">High level sources in multiple conferences have told KCTV5 that Texas and Texas A&M are looking to move to the</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Big Ten</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Conference and have petitioned for membership, while the University of Oklahoma is planning on petitioning the Southeastern Conference to become a member of its conference.</span><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "></p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">KCTV5's sources said that Texas and Texas A&M do not have to include Texas Tech or Baylor in their plans. Sources told KCTV5 that there have already been discussions about the two schools entering the Big Ten and that the agreement could be made as soon as Thursday.</span><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "></p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Oklahoma is currently working on petitioning to enter the SEC, but must find another university to enter the league with them, sources said. TMZ Sports has reported that Oklahoma State is likely to accept a bid to move to the</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><nobr id="itxt_nobr_2_0" style="color: rgb(0, 100, 0); font-weight: normal; font-size: 13px; ">Pac-10 </nobr></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">. Earlier Thursday, Colorado accepted an invitation to join the Pac-10.</span><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "></p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">KCTV5's sources also said that some Big 12 officials are saying decisions on which deals Big 12 schools take invitations by the end of the day Thursday, although the deals may not be officially announced. Big 12 officials also tell KCTV5's sources that some Big 12 office employees are planning to be without a job within weeks.</span><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "></p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Those decisions would leave the University of Kansas, Kansas State University and the University of Missouri with Baylor, Texas Tech and Iowa State in the Big 12. The Missouri Board of Curators met Thursday and planned to meet Friday to discuss the future of Missouri sports.</span></div>

 

[ckDOG]

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[mstatedawgs]

agreed.

it's all a bunch of 17ing bS

 

[SilentDog]

easiest solution is TX teams stay put while Nebraska and CU bolt, and BIG 12 adds TCU and another... SEC remains the same.

 

[Henry Kissinger]

we'd play florida twice every seven years instead of every five. replace bama with texas. if a team beat texas on a year that texas had to play florida or alabama, that team would have a great shot at winning the division, especially if that team didn't play florida or alabama. alabama and florida wouldn't be back to back in the rotation. texas would play them four out of seven years. if one team's years without bama or florida crossed with texas's with bama or florida, it'd have the potential to be a really good year for that team

 

[snoopdog]

don't know about tv sets, but some good sports teams .

 

[Frances Drebin]

...would be to say screw it. Don't do anything right now. Let the PAC 10 and Big 10expand and sit tight. Then two years from now, take whoever we want from either conference. Why? Because we're the SEC, dammit, and we can take whoever we want. It would bemore fun to to do it that way.

 

[FISHDAWG]

I agree with the smokin gun