We could use him as a running back! We probably don't need anyone at Safety at the moment though.
Art Briles is getting fired
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We could use him as a running back! We probably don't need anyone at Safety at the moment though.
I had no idea that there were posters here (prepfan & trollnson) who already knew everything about this situation. Glad that you guys were on top of this. Whew!! We can all rest easy now knowing that you guys had this under control & knew about all of this the entire time. Man you guys are good
Obviously this wasn't a one time issue and obviously the crimes were very serious...enough that he doesn't have a job anymore.
My observations have been that coaches with crap records get canned all of the time...not so much with coaches that turn a dumpster program and win.
Only a worthless troll would use this topic to bash other posters and further their anonymous online worthless ego's.
GBR
Obviously this wasn't a one time issue and obviously the crimes were very serious...enough that he doesn't have a job anymore.
My observations have been that coaches with crap records get canned all of the time...not so much with coaches that turn a dumpster program and win.
Only a worthless troll would use this topic to bash other posters and further their anonymous online worthless ego's.
GBR
At what level of accountability should a coach be held for the actions of players on the team that he/she coaches? That's a tough question for me to answer. If a coach actively and knowingly participates in obstruction of justice, imo, they should be charged, tried, and if found guilty, they should be convicted. It's hard for me to envision a coaching staff that actively tells the players to go out and commit crimes. So, that leaves coaches that tell their players to be good citizens and punish the bad players by sitting them out a game? Is it the court's duty to mete out justice and punishment? I have an opinion, but it doesn't really matter, and I would guess opinions vary across a broad spectrum.
I don't know any of the details surrounding baylor, Briles, and the baylor administration. Hopefully, justice is served in the end.
I don't know any of the details surrounding baylor, Briles, and the baylor administration. Hopefully, justice is served in the end.
Did you hear the ole Chipster on Gottlieb??? Brutal...Gottlieb said that Chip is incredibly knowledgeable....Sources say, no way....
Not sure if serious. Rape is a little more than the mistreatment of women, but hey winning is everything.
I mean, sexual assault is no big thing, especially if the team is winning lots of games you know. Pussification of America continues.
Just a fair warning knock off the back and forth name calling itt or vacations will be granted. We can have discussions without the petty bs.
Waco PD is involved with the cover up at Baylor. Could be very interesting the next few days here in Waco.
Is this a matter that the NCAA should get involved in or not? I guess what I am saying is this seems like more of a criminal matter that maybe the justice system should handle and not the NCAA, who should be handling cheating matters(not very well I may add).
I think that the NCAA should get involved here. It appears that the program covered up serious crimes in order to keep players on the field. Their actions helped them maintain an improper competitive advantage. These weren't isolated cases either, it was systematic.
Baylor BOR states clearly they had a lack of institutional control and did not have proper Title IV coverage, this is not good on many fronts. I have several BU friends aand family members who love BU, this is extremely painful for them. They have had so much positive over past 5-7 yrs after being a has been and they have been ripped apart. Certainly not condoning any of what has happened but I can only think of the stain on their U for the rest of their lives. I still get LP **** thrown back in my face and that was small **** compared to this.
Seriously? I don't think this way at all toward the University where I got my degree. It was just a place I went to school. What happens there after I left has zero impact on me. I can certainly understand an emotional attachment for your team, but this kinda borders on lunacy to think people suffer emotional damage just because something bad happened at the school they once attended.
Nice try. In all seriousness, the accusations are pretty severe and you come on and say "what's the big deal?"
In my opinion, even if it was just one time, it's never ok to say no big deal like you did. Not trolling, woulda done it to anybody. But keep on hating.
And seeing as other posters have now called you out for your bad take as well, I am sure you will bag on them next, correct?
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People take pride in their University's reputation. I certainly take pride in Nebraska's reputation, even with some stains here and there over the years. Now, if something like this happened at UNL, I wouldn't be distraught as much as I would be irate.
This brings me to the question of what fans want. So many were clamoring for Briles to come to Nebraska and not to say I knew this would happen, but there was too much smoke around what was accomplished at Baylor in such a short period of time to believe it was without some questionable behavior.
So I'll ask again - if you knew you could get a guy who would bring the team back to prominence (e.g., top 6 rating maybe competing in the playoff series) but then you knew there was shady behavior that would likely be uncovered, putting the team in the news in a negative light, etc.... or would you prefer the slow route of a guy like Riley where you have great confidence that he does things the right way and he may get the team back to national prominence but a) it will take 4 - 5 years and b) there is no guarantee it will make it there at all.
So I'll ask again - if you knew you could get a guy who would bring the team back to prominence (e.g., top 6 rating maybe competing in the playoff series) but then you knew there was shady behavior that would likely be uncovered, putting the team in the news in a negative light, etc.... or would you prefer the slow route of a guy like Riley where you have great confidence that he does things the right way and he may get the team back to national prominence but a) it will take 4 - 5 years and b) there is no guarantee it will make it there at all.
Saying nothing about whether he gets us there (for the record I believe he will), I'd take the Riley approach all day every day. I take some pride in the team I root for and want it to be worthy of that admiration.
Briles was never coming here, neither was Patterson or Harbaugh. Who cares who the fans wanted and how would it reflect poorly on them for shooting for the moon for their next coach? Hell I wanted Bill Cowher, doesn't make me an idiot if we find out later he keeps dead bodies in the garage freezer.
This would be a great poll. I would also take the Riley approach as long as steady improvement happens each year. 20 years after the fact and people still refer to TO as a win-at-all-costs coach due to LP (primarily).
PSU should hire Briles. No violations at Baylor according to NCAA. No sanctions so it should not be an issue. YOu did not have a problem with all the PSU/Paterno coaches going to Ohio State, UCLA, WV, Georgia, Airforce, Pitt, Temple and so on.
Maybe Nebraska should hire Briles. Nebraska can also hire the Peters brothers and put them in charge of compliance and quality control.
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Any threads on the subject.? Did you complain about OSU, UCLA and so on hiring PSU coaches after the sanctions? Feel free to post a link.
So I have to complain on the board to validate what I do and do not have an issue with? I can have an issue with something and have it not be part of the discussion here. I can't recall a time where it was ever discussed here.
And the point of my original comment wasn't about something I have a problem with, it was about watching the collective meltdown that college football would have. Which I stated above. Do you need me to proved the link?
Is there something buried in the thread about Scott? Some scandal your aware of? I apologize if I missed it; otherwise you are way out of line. IMO without some negative factor; if forced to bet on over / under winning half his games in his 3rd season there - I would have to bet the over with no second thought. GBRScott Frost one and done at UCF
Depends on what the specific "shady behavior" is. If we're talking about some impermissible benefits, maybe looking the other way about guys smoking the wacky tabaccy or using PEDs, that's one thing. Criminal behavior such as theft/robbery, sexual assault, that's a totally different animal.
I can get over it if there's some money flowing and the players are known to get in a barfight. But covering up for rapists is not the price of a championship. There's a pretty clear line between being a little wild and being a criminal.
I took it to mean that after Grobe cleans things up in his year at Baylor the Bears will go after Frost, making him 1 and done in Florida. Could be wrong, but that's how I took his post.
That post was/is old as dirt made in jest literally within minutes of Briles being fired. Apologies accepted for why it ever bent you out of shape.
Too bad Dan Beebe isn't still in charge. We know he would get to the bottom of it.