How can you not become a state fan after 4 years of state. I go to state to get an education as well, I didn't decide to attend the university for the football team. I doubt many people at state do. BUT you pretty much agreed with everything I said in my post but apologized for the fans I talked about. Its ok to root for two teams, but the thread was about if the average state fan doesn't like alabama, I would have to say yes.
Ask Sixpack: Do y'all view Alabama the same Ole Miss does LSU?
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Every Bama fan I know except for one or two are total douchebags. I wish they would lose every game.
I think you find obnoxious fans who have nothing to do with the school with most big time programs (Alabama and Notre Dame may have a few more than others though). I live in Georgia now and cant tell you how many idiots i talk to on a daily basis who are all about UGA 'Dawgs but have never been to Athens, and probably couldnt point to it on the map. Being die hard about a team you have never seen before isn't reserved to just Alabama.
I think most peoples opinion about Bama is shaped by the fans they have encountered. My girlfriend went to Bama and her and her family are normal as the day is long and very reasonable about the team. This makes me view them as just another SEC team. I can understand people who endure constant ******** about Bear or "got 12" hating them though.
Hate them or not its undeniable that the Bama MSU game is bigger than most for MSU fans, and arguably the most anticipated game of the season.
I think most peoples opinion about Bama is shaped by the fans they have encountered. My girlfriend went to Bama and her and her family are normal as the day is long and very reasonable about the team. This makes me view them as just another SEC team. I can understand people who endure constant ******** about Bear or "got 12" hating them though.
Hate them or not its undeniable that the Bama MSU game is bigger than most for MSU fans, and arguably the most anticipated game of the season.
i hate Bama much more than LSU. a lot of Bama fans have the uppidy, rich bastard attitude like some OM fans and at the same time they kick our asses a lot. at least most LSU fans know they are coon asses and don't look down their noses at you while they are kicking your ***.
did i mention we get our asses beaten a lot? sometimes i wonder how i am a fan.</p>
did i mention we get our asses beaten a lot? sometimes i wonder how i am a fan.</p>
Aren't we about .500 against Alabama over the last 15 years or so?UpTheMiddlex3Punt said:
Disagree with the culture statement also, except for that whole Bear Bryant thing, Maybe that's what you meant.
State-Bama is definitely a rivalry, but I think it is second to State-Mississippi.
Some years for me, I hate Bama more. I definitely hated Bama more in the 90s, especially the early 90s. We had good teams them, and Bama stood in our way to Atlanta. More often or not, beating Bama required beating the referees too. Bama had national champion caliber teams and we'd play them right to the wire, dragging the referees along the way, and they'd get some cluster-17 call or non-call from the refs to win the game.
My blood pressure still goes up at the memories of Bama OL tackling our DL on our own damn field. And in Tuscaloosa they year Bama won the national championship, we get down to the goal line in the last seconds about to win the game and Bama is yelling our offensive signals making one of our guys jump offsides. Bama was always getting away with some kind of ********, not just against us, but mostly everybody else too.
Stings worse knowing that at times we were good enough to win the SEC, but not quite good enough to beat the Tide and the refs. Not that I'm bitter or anything...smirk
Most years I'd rather beat Bama instead of beating Mississippi simply because Bama is almost always the better team.
And when I see Snead playing lights out football, I feel jealous. When I see Bama playing well, I'm not jealous in the least. Guess that means I hate the Rebels more.
Go to hell Ole Miss.
The complaint is about sidewalk fans. This is the guy that has never stepped foot in Tuscaloosa or on the campus of Alabama. Here's the guy that acts like the biggest Bama fan in history, talks smack to fans of other schools even to the point of education, and has no clue about football and reality.
Now, about the houndstooth deal. That isn't a tradition concerning the school. It's a had worn by a former coach who is now dead. I think it is stupid to wear a hat simply because a former coach wore it, but it's beyond idiotic for someone who wasn't even alive to see Bear Bryant coach a game wear one. Of course, you won't see me sporting a "Dan the Man" shirt either, just as I didn't sport the "Maroon is all that matters"shirt the last go around. I don't cheer for a coach, I cheer for a team. Coaches come and go and people need to move on at some point.
Comparing the houndstooth deal with cowbells is like comparing the Atlanta fans that called themselves "Sheff's chefs" while Gary Sheffield played there and the tomahawk chop. Obviously one is connected to the school/franchise and the other is not. Note: Sheff's chefs disbanded when Sheffield stopped playing for Atlanta.
Now, about the houndstooth deal. That isn't a tradition concerning the school. It's a had worn by a former coach who is now dead. I think it is stupid to wear a hat simply because a former coach wore it, but it's beyond idiotic for someone who wasn't even alive to see Bear Bryant coach a game wear one. Of course, you won't see me sporting a "Dan the Man" shirt either, just as I didn't sport the "Maroon is all that matters"shirt the last go around. I don't cheer for a coach, I cheer for a team. Coaches come and go and people need to move on at some point.
Comparing the houndstooth deal with cowbells is like comparing the Atlanta fans that called themselves "Sheff's chefs" while Gary Sheffield played there and the tomahawk chop. Obviously one is connected to the school/franchise and the other is not. Note: Sheff's chefs disbanded when Sheffield stopped playing for Atlanta.
I probably dislike them equally, or slightly more. I will generally pull for Ole Miss in the post season due to them representing Mississippi, but I seldom do that for UAT (I would pull for them against most PAC10 or Big11 teams). I went to HS around Columbus and watched so many sidewalk alums jump on the "Bama Wagon" they make me want to puke! Like someone said earlier, many have never even been to T-town, much less to UAT or a game!
Alabama fans are soft when it comes to real confrontation, they talk a lot but if you ever stand up to them they back down. For example, I went to the MSU/Alabama game around 2005 when Ernest Shelton and co. dropped bombs and ran up the score. I stuck around until there was about 2 minutes left in the game at which point me and a few friends got up to leave. One redneck Bammer stood up in front of his two kids and said "Where you going?" and started laughing to which I replied, "To your mothers." He sat back down and the whole thing was understood, not really a problem. LSU is different however. My sister lives outside of Baton Rogue and I visit her on occasion. Her daughter's birthday party was the same day as the LSU/Florida football game two years ago. Many Tigah fans showed up to the party before the game. I seriously couldn't get them to talk about anything other than LSU and the way they manhandled Mississippi State that season, they were more arrogant, more distasteful and more annoying at a 3-year old's birthday party than Alabama fans were at an actual game. Since then my hatred for LSU has rivaled that of my hatred for the University of Mississippi.
so I hate those mother 17ers. The list of reasons is too long to post, but I mainly hate them because they look down at us like we are a Division 3 school and think Mississippi is way more redneck and inferior than Alabama.
The Battle for the Golden Boot has been around longer than the Magnolia trophy, its played on or near Thanksgiving like a lot of other rivalry games, and honestly because most of the Arkansas and LSU fans I know feel like its a bigger rivalry- thats the biggest reason. I mean, in the end a trophy is just a trophy, but there is also something about naming a game that makes it somewhat official. The thing is though quite a few LSU fans I know get indignant when you discuss UM as a rival. Its just the way things come across to me.
In the end, whether you like it or not, LSU and most of its fanbase doesn't consider UM to be its main rival. More like a trivial nusance or like if your little brother beats you in arm wrestling. Thats just the way it seems.
In the end, whether you like it or not, LSU and most of its fanbase doesn't consider UM to be its main rival. More like a trivial nusance or like if your little brother beats you in arm wrestling. Thats just the way it seems.
It's kind of a forced game because MSU-UM and Bama-Auburn close out the season against each other, so there's really nobody else for LSU and Arkansas to play that weekend. The LSU-UM game has been a traditional rivalry game since at least the 1950s. The real fact is that LSU has no one true "rival" like MSU-UM, Bama-Auburn, UGA-UF, etc.
I figure as much that LSU doesn't exactly have a rival so like Arkansas being the only big team in the state, they play one another at the time of the Egg bowl and the Iron Bowl. My friends that went to LSU and Arkansas have always said that its their biggest rivalry, but in the end this is pure conjecture because other people can quote what their friends think eternally. What I do know is that UM fans trying assert that LSU is their co-rival is garbage, for reasons that others have posted in this thread and ones previous. Thats mainly what I'm pointing out.
bama. Wife is a MSU dawg from Bama and hates them more than I do. Growing up around Bammer fans just plain sucks. The rank and file Bama fan is much worse than the average UM or LSU fan.
has had a trophy longer, they are "real" rivals. Makes perfect sense. I was content to accept the "because I feel that way" answer with no articulable justification, but since you're using such empirical evidence as "most of the LSU fans I know" to support your position, let's look at the numbers.
We have played Arkansas more than LSU has. Our winning % against LSU is higher than Arkansas'. They approached us about the Magnolia Bowl idea, weird considering we're a "trivial nuisance." Lastly our winning % against them is higher than State's against Ole Miss. But hey, we've had a trophy for a while, right?
We have played Arkansas more than LSU has. Our winning % against LSU is higher than Arkansas'. They approached us about the Magnolia Bowl idea, weird considering we're a "trivial nuisance." Lastly our winning % against them is higher than State's against Ole Miss. But hey, we've had a trophy for a while, right?
I don't get why State people like yourself are forever trying to discredit the LSU/OM rivalry. Believe me: THEY CARE ABOUT THE OLE MISS GAME.thelaw said:
But don't take my word for it. Take their's. Here is an 8 page thread from TigerDroppings on "Who do you consider our most hated rival." Notice that well over half of the serious respondents said "Ole Miss".
Also, "little brother" has historically beaten them at about the same rate as MSU beats Ole Miss.
My response to patdog.
And no, I don't think the age of the trophy matters at all, besides the boot being like 13 years old doesn't really correctly represent the the rivalry itself.
I guess you didn't read that GroveHard, or you just didn't want to. Having a trophy doesn't "make" a rivalry, it might make one more official, but it doesn't make the rivalry itself.
I'm not denying this, it would be dumb to do so. I think that UM fans may care about the game more than LSU fans, thats what I'm suggesting and there is no way I prove it and you can't prove me wrong. Just what I think.
I don't about LSU but as a whole, in general, Arkansas' biggest (wannabe) rival is Texas. Sure they play LSU for The Boot but most Arkansas fans and Arkansas cheerleaders reports look forward to playing Texas. When they play Texas, or Oklahoma, they seem to get just alittle more excited than usual. In south Arkansas, along 82, you see alot of LSU tags, garb, and etc. There seems to be a little rivalry among the fans of that area. However, for the majority of Arkansas, it is Texas.
Over the years this may change, as they have had some exciting games with LSU. However, it has been 17 years since they joined the league and they still talk about the SWC.
Over the years this may change, as they have had some exciting games with LSU. However, it has been 17 years since they joined the league and they still talk about the SWC.
I would agree that most State fans do not like Alabama. My in-laws are a perfect example. I certainly hope that State fans dont consider Alabama a big rivalry. Like someone mentioned earlier, the history of the matchup is not even close. I think most of the rivalry has extended from basketball recruiting wars in the early 2000's. But Alabama's rivals will always be Auburn and Tennessee. I can honestly say that UT may be a bigger rival than Auburn to alot of Bama fans. Most Bama fans have nothing against State. In fact, most people I talk would say nothing but good things about State.
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I agree that Alabama has quite a few "sidewalk" fans. I dont like hearing ignorant fans ramble off nonsense, but if you are a fan, you are a fan regardless of if you have been there or not. I have been a Cubs fan since I was old enough to know what baseball was, but I have only been to Wrigley twice and that has been in the last 4 years. That doesnt mean Im not a true fan. I just dont have the opportunity to go.
You say that you dont cheer for a coach, that you cheer for a team. Well I choose not cheer for a fanbase, but to cheer for a team. I agree that Bear Bryant has been gone for 25+ years and there are still people who talk about him like he is alive, but I do not put the Houndstooth hat in the same category. I dont wear it, but I dont have a problem with people that do.
You say that you dont cheer for a coach, that you cheer for a team. Well I choose not cheer for a fanbase, but to cheer for a team. I agree that Bear Bryant has been gone for 25+ years and there are still people who talk about him like he is alive, but I do not put the Houndstooth hat in the same category. I dont wear it, but I dont have a problem with people that do.
....during the Alabama-Ole Miss game, I root for a tornado to hit the stadium. In 2001, I almost got my wish (that's the day we lost to Troy at home in the Tornado Warning game).