ATTENTION, irresponsible ringers:

[00Dawg]

Knoxville says that they were only targeting State fans with the wand. The cop who did me was specifically looking for cowbells. His wand didn't get it in the seat cushions I had hidden it in, but his eye caught just enough. You'd have thought I'd just given him a Christmas present.
Anyway, they couldn't do that pace of checking with 50k and get us all seated in less than 4 hours.

 

[fishwater99]

<span style="font-weight: bold;">Personally speaking, there is no way in hell I'm taking off a beltfor a security guard. Patdowns?? No, I won't be getting frisked either. </span>

Confiscate in the stands will be the only viable solution. A few games ofasignificant confiscation effortand cowbells will be no more.

 

[TheBigDawgCollar]

You can kiss the cowbell atmosphere inside sporting events good bye. It will most likely happen and that makes about every loving old and true dawg fan mad. To me, if you take away one of our tradition(s), every SEC school should give up one and it made <span style="font-style: italic;">illegal </span>to be fair. This has been harped on though etc etc.

The biggest concern now is, <span style="font-weight: bold;">the stadium has to be at least expanded to hold 85-90,000 to get the edge back we will be losing!

Edit: This has everything to do with us winning now, with winning comes in more money intake, with that comes in a lot of possibilities, one of course stadium expansion. You think teams want to come into a 80 to 90k stadium with cowbells? This is one of the facto reasons many won't admit to
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[Mr Meoff]

Like Scott has said, if they were truly important to our ENTIRE fan base who bring them, then we would learn to comply. Meaning get better over time as we get used to the rule. And if they do get banned again, it will completely be the fault of the fans who are ringing them irresponsibly.

This just about sums it up.

 

[shsdawg]

it will completely be the fault of the fans whonare ringing them irresponsibly

Mission accomplished SEC office.

 

[DerHntr]

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[Heinz57]

Metal Detectors or Wands - Booze can't be detected short of "pat downs"

 

[RaiderDawg24]

Knoxville says that they were only targeting State fans with the wand. The cop who did me was specifically looking for cowbells. His wand didn't get it in the seat cushions I had hidden it in, but his eye caught just enough. You'd have thought I'd just given him a Christmas present.
Anyway, they couldn't do that pace of checking with 50k and get us all seated in less than 4 hours.

I saw a ~60 year old UT fan have what looked like a 1 inch pocket knife on a key chain get confiscated at the UT -Arkansas State game. The man said he forgot about because he had flown in with it on the key chain and the airlines don't even notice it.

You are right though - every place takes special effort on State fans because of cowbells.

 

[DerHntr]

i know that the RR campaign was our way of explaining the rule.

the specific rules for when we could use the artificial noise makers was written for us. the new fine was created for us. they are watching to see if we follow it and they are now fining us. have you heard about any other schools worrying about these rules? technically the rule applies to all schools in the SEC, but when those schools have no issues with artificial noise makers being a primary part of their game day atmosphere, then for all intents and purposes the rule was written for us.

 

[MrHooch]

but it gets lost in the bigger argument. The rule does technically apply to all schools, but only MSU is 'under the microscope' so to speak. I have seen other posters mention the cock's crow at SC as a violation of the same rule, but it appears the SEC is not concerned about that. As a matter of fact I'd like to know if the SEC even has designated officials in the press boxes at all SEC stadiums to monitor the abuse/misuse of artificial noisemakers.

My original point is still valid, however. After this year, if/when they decide to ban cowbells they will have to do so with an all-encompassing rule, not a cowbell-specific or MSU-specific rule.

 

[DerHntr]

as it is an all encompassing rule now. i wrote it wrong previously by calling it a cowbell rule. if they ban them altogether, then it will also be an all encompassing rule for noise makers. even so, we know the rule is for us and we will be watched while no one else is watched. i would put money on it that they don't have anyone designated to review if the rule has been broken at other SEC schools.

 

[boomboommsu]

...would be to sue the SEC for breach of contract.

you could also get the state to pass a law saying that they and only they can regulate "artificial noise" or some such. SEC can't kick us out, so they'd have to do the end run of having everyone else leave and form a new conference lacking only us. But i don't think they'd want to give up the brand of "SEC" over cowbells.

of course, the SEC could get around that by just coming up with other BS to punish us for. comes down to which side wants it the most, and is most willing to fight dirty. apparantly, that's not our administration.

you could make a 1st Amendment case if this were the NCAA trying to ban cowbells, in light of the recent NFL ruling. but the odds of it succeeding wouldn't be good. but since the SEC is doing it, not the NCAA, the courts would just rule that we are free to leave the conference, so there's no 1st amendment grounds.

 

[lanceharbor7]

If the SEC fined MSU $1mm per season for supposed cowbell violations, would you pay $5 more per ticket to cover those fines?

 

[DowntownDawg]

....and any way that you slice it, that is $1,000,000 that doesn't pay Dan or go to stadium expansion.

 

[DerHntr]

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[Stansfield]

I say ring the hell out of them until they're banned. If you can't ring the bell at ALL times then ringing it like pusses at predetermined times is disgusting. Quit being a bunch of puppies. Ring your damn cowbells loud and proud and let them take them away. If we keep them only to ring them during timeouts then we have been pussified.

 

[Mr Meoff]

I understand not liking the new rules. I don't like them one bit... I wish we were completely free to ring whenever we wanted, as loudly as we wanted. That's just not the reality of the situation, as you heard Scott Stricklin say.


But to really wish they were gone... and to take an active part in their banishment? No, I honestly can't say I understand that.

 

[smootsmack21]

Wrong, it was done to give us the opportunity to prove how important the cowbells were to us. We still have the chance to make this work, if we can get better over the next two games. Like Scott has said, if they were truly important to our ENTIRE fan base who bring them, then we would learn to comply. Meaning get better over time as we get used to the rule. And if they do get banned again, it will completely be the fault of the fans whonare ringing them irresponsibly. The university has done everything they could possibly donto get the message and the rules out there. And the SEC sees that, thats why if we can get better in the next two games. We will get an extension on this rule.

I think it was a setup. Isit on the West side of the stadium and it is not the alumni's fault it is the student section because they do not care. This was a setup by theSECjust to fine us.

 

[Johnson85]

They don't get a free pass just b/c they sell you a ticket any more than they could avoid the 1st amendment with students by selling them a "ticket" to attend school.

I think the 1st amendment challenge would fail b/c there's probably not view point discrimination. It's just a ban on artificial noisemakers.Same as Ole Miss banning the confederate battle flag. had they just banned a confederate battle flag, they would have been participating in view point discrimination. Instead they banned all flags (actually I think they banned sticks, but not positive), so there is no viewpoint discriminationand the level of scrutiny is lowered.

I don't know if there would be other protections from the fact that MSU is just enforcing rules imposed by a group that it is a member of. My guess would be that youa state college can't sidestep the1st amendment that easily.</p>

 

[LTblows]

I bet we could get away with ringing on 3rd downs. However until then, we've got to follow the sucky rules.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

That's ALL!

 

[patdog]

The 1st Amendment is a lot more limited than a lot of people think it is.

 

[00Dawg]

The guy who stopped me let entire groups of UT fans through without a bit of hassle. Guess it's about like our anti-cowbell standards pre-Byrne.

 

[Bullyfan87]

Holy ****, you are a goddamn retard! Yes, let's throw away millions of dollars a year to pay these fines just so we can keep cowbells! You obviously don't understand economics, and how limited our monetary resources are in the big picture.