My AU friends say Chizik is gone if he loses to LSU this week and another Petrino deal is in the works.
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I don't think that he is gone this weekend. I think Auburn is hoping to get in enough trouble with the NCAA so that they can fire Chizik without having to pay his buyout, but not so much that they will be on a bowl ban.
If that is the outcome, it is far more appealing than having to buy him out right now at 7.5 million.
If that is the outcome, it is far more appealing than having to buy him out right now at 7.5 million.
2 years removed from a NC and they are going to fire him and have to pay him 7.5 million large?
I believe that what you are hearing is the very vocal majority. The real pressure comes next season.
I dont' think Auburn's admins are that stupid.
I believe that what you are hearing is the very vocal majority. The real pressure comes next season.
I dont' think Auburn's admins are that stupid.
The what?
Wouldn't that mean he would be out the door sooner rather than later?
Wouldn't that mean he would be out the door sooner rather than later?
I dont think that they will, but they can squeeze out a 6-6 record. They can win 2 more non conference, Ole Miss,Arkansas, and Vandy. If they fire him right now, the season is over period.
There's no need to kill the season when there's still a little bit of hope in it.
There's no need to kill the season when there's still a little bit of hope in it.
They can get Petrino now or at the end of the season. If they fire Chizik now, it costs them money. If they wait until the end of the season, it will cost them the same money, unless they get slapped between now and then. It is monetarily no gain, as far as buyout goes, to fire him before the end of the season.
I doubt that. I don't see him being fired UNTIL he at least has had a losing or break even season. He's won at least 7 regular season games each of the 3 years he's been there plus threw in a National Championship. I do believe if he goes 6-6 or worse this year then his seat will be quite warm next year.
lol at losing to the #2 team in the country being the straw that breaks the camel's back. you don't fire a guy when he loses a game that no one expects him to win anyway, you wait for the loss against a team everyone expects you to beat.
Firing Chizik now would be suicide for the Auburn AD......
They then enter a situation where it's Petrino or bust. No coach wants a job where you win a National Championship and get fired 2 years later. You have to give him another year to turn it around, unless he just goes 3-9 or something, which likely won't happen. 6-6 and Chiz gets another year, as he should.
Kentucky is in a much better position to hire Petrino than Auburn or even Tennessee. They've given their guy his chance and he has regressed. If Tennessee wins 7 or 8 people will point to improvement. Ask Ole Miss what firing a successful coach does for your reputation.
They then enter a situation where it's Petrino or bust. No coach wants a job where you win a National Championship and get fired 2 years later. You have to give him another year to turn it around, unless he just goes 3-9 or something, which likely won't happen. 6-6 and Chiz gets another year, as he should.
Kentucky is in a much better position to hire Petrino than Auburn or even Tennessee. They've given their guy his chance and he has regressed. If Tennessee wins 7 or 8 people will point to improvement. Ask Ole Miss what firing a successful coach does for your reputation.
Tell your fiend he is and idiot....
No way they fire him this year.. They should finish 6-6 and get a bowl game..
No way they fire him this year.. They should finish 6-6 and get a bowl game..
That fanbase is dumb enough to do it.......
I still cannot wrap my mind around the fact that they ran Malzahn (or let him get) out of town. Just incredibly stupid on every front.
I still cannot wrap my mind around the fact that they ran Malzahn (or let him get) out of town. Just incredibly stupid on every front.
I keep hearing everybody say Petrino to Kentucky, but does someone of his
"stature" really want to go there, and does Kentucky actually care about having a successful football program? All that bunch cares about is basketball, and I wouldn't be surprised if their next hire is some no-name coach. Petrino has an ego the size of an aircraft carrier, and he would not play second fiddle to Calipari.
"stature" really want to go there, and does Kentucky actually care about having a successful football program? All that bunch cares about is basketball, and I wouldn't be surprised if their next hire is some no-name coach. Petrino has an ego the size of an aircraft carrier, and he would not play second fiddle to Calipari.
Kentucky should try to go after someone like Tommy Bowden. They need a known commodity, and while Tommy Bowden isn't going to get them to Atlanta(who could?) he'll be able to stabilize the program and get them in the 6-6, 7-5 range like Rich Brooks did. That'll keep the fans satisfied so that they wont be embarrassed but not steal attention from basketball.
I think Petrino could/should wait until a better offer comes than Kentucky.
I think Petrino could/should wait until a better offer comes than Kentucky.
I figure if he can win at Arkansas he'll win at Kentucky......
There may even be a bigger talent pool in Kentucky than Arkansas. I don't know, in Arkansas you can get guys from Texas, and especially now with the SEC heading west. But I figure Kentucky has Illinois, Indiana and Ohio to pull from.
There may even be a bigger talent pool in Kentucky than Arkansas. I don't know, in Arkansas you can get guys from Texas, and especially now with the SEC heading west. But I figure Kentucky has Illinois, Indiana and Ohio to pull from.
Yeah, and without Malzahn, Auburn is headed for 3-9.....
unless they figure something out quickly.
unless they figure something out quickly.
Aburn was avearage at best before newton and they were average after newton. The year they won the NC they would have at best been a seven win team with out Newton. Malzahn was not the reason they were good. They were good because of one person and that was Newton. We will see how Arky State progess this season. They are 1 and 2 after three but they have played a hard schedule up to this point. Here on out it gets even for them.
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Go read their message boards. They've been tweeting and hyping themselves up all week talking about how "if they come out hot" and stuff they'll win. They're idiots. The kind of idiots that would pay $7.5 mil to leave half way through the season.
If they HONESTLY want ole Bobby, that might be the best angle to get him: fire your coach in September and offer him the job following the Alabama game.
I don't have a strong opinion on this subject......
....so I'm not going to sit here and argue with you. But, I believe the facts are on my side. From 2009-2011, Auburn was a big play waiting to happen and they scored alot of points. In 2012 they have been beyond ******. They've gotten worse from last year to this year, even though their players have gotten a year older and better. They were much more organized last year. I guess you could give Michael Dyer some of the credit. I happen to believe their offense hummed better in 2009 and 2010 because they had more experienced players. Good players make every coach look better.
....so I'm not going to sit here and argue with you. But, I believe the facts are on my side. From 2009-2011, Auburn was a big play waiting to happen and they scored alot of points. In 2012 they have been beyond ******. They've gotten worse from last year to this year, even though their players have gotten a year older and better. They were much more organized last year. I guess you could give Michael Dyer some of the credit. I happen to believe their offense hummed better in 2009 and 2010 because they had more experienced players. Good players make every coach look better.
I don't know. I have some Auburn fans in my extended family, and they seem to be ready for him to hit the bricks. They understand the National Championship was bought and paid for, and don't believe Chizik can do it again.
For the record, I don't think they fire him, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.
Well... because of his "stature"... schools on the level of Kentucky are probably the best he'll be able to do. I don't see too many big time programs willing risk hiring a character quite like him. There are some upper mid-tier schools like Miami that would probably give him a shot if they're in desperation mode though.
Also... I don't get where you're coming from about the football vs basketball angle... You honestly think the people at UK wouldn't like to have a shot at a national title? Just because basketball is their bread and butter... I just don't see any of their fans just outright thinking that way...
Also... I don't get where you're coming from about the football vs basketball angle... You honestly think the people at UK wouldn't like to have a shot at a national title? Just because basketball is their bread and butter... I just don't see any of their fans just outright thinking that way...
He actually came up with the "Wildcat" formation with McFadden if I'm not mistaken. And he made Arkansas' offense look purty fine. He had some great talent with there and at Auburn, but who doesn't with a good team?
Patrino wouldn't allow the dabbling into the football program by Dye and Lowder that AU is famous for. You realize every coach since Dye has had to sign a non disclosure agreement with the university. That's Lowder. He doesn't want any prior coach talking about all the **** that goes on in "the corporation" as they call AU football. Bowden, Wingnutt and Malzahn all had to sign waivers stating that they would be open to lawsuits from the AU BOT if they say anything about the day to day operation of that program. Remember Tubbs refused to sign it after jet gate and Lowder told him the university wouldn't pay his buyout if he didn't.
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Did everyone all of a sudden forget that Petrino was the head coach at Louisville for 3 years? Kentucky recruiting is not foreign to him.
Great point. Why else would they have been so adamant about hiring a 5-19 coach? Because they'd be able to run the show use Chizik as a puppet.
Precisely, Chiz was never anything more than a puppet. Now Bobby Lowder was removed as president of the Auburn BOT but as AU's biggest donor and booster he still has plenty of pull and input into the program. Lowder was also the CEO of Colonial Bank in Alabama that went belly up and led to the largest Securities and Exchange Commission investigation ever. The banks dowfall is said by many to have led to the domino effect that took down Enron, WorldComm and began our recession and stock market crash after the internet bubble busted.
Again, and without Malzahn, they win less than that......
You ignored basically all of my post. I've showed you facts. Auburn was an offensive team. Now, they suck.
You ignored basically all of my post. I've showed you facts. Auburn was an offensive team. Now, they suck.
Do you really believe......
that Kentucky, with Petrino coaching them, couldn't compete and beat those teams you listed for talent? You're out of your mind.
that Kentucky, with Petrino coaching them, couldn't compete and beat those teams you listed for talent? You're out of your mind.
I'll wait till Petrino denies it before I believe the rumor.
Also Chiz should hire some of the TSUN fans to help him explain to the masses how great a season he is having.
Also Chiz should hire some of the TSUN fans to help him explain to the masses how great a season he is having.
Someone mentioned Malzhan coming up with the wildcat for McFadden. Believe it or not, that was Houston's idea and Malzhan took it and ran.
Obviously at this point he's an expert at it. If Frazier stays and McCaleb gets his 10th year of eligibility Malzhan could step in and win big fast there. That's not happening though.
Obviously at this point he's an expert at it. If Frazier stays and McCaleb gets his 10th year of eligibility Malzhan could step in and win big fast there. That's not happening though.
I have a hard time believing Petrino is going to be let back into the SEC so soon and so easily. Who knows.