Azzurri's Bye Week Progress Report

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Disclaimer, it never sucks to be 4-0, and there will be quite a few negatives discussed in the following content, but it is all under the umbrella of sheer jubilation about us being undefeated. I will do position by position, then some general thoughts on personnel, scheme, remaining schedule.

QB - [B-] I honestly havent seen anything new out of Russell so far this year. That said, I thought Tyler was a very capable QB last year. He had stretches of amazing accuracy last year as well. More than adequate arm, very good accuracy, just a little off on his internal clock. This is not all his fault, of course. Our offensive inconsistency without a true punishing run game makes us susceptible to some ugly stretches. What we have now that we never had before is a QB that has the ability to lead a quick-fire comeback if we do fall behind.

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[B+] Perkins is looking every-bit the SEC back, but I still dont think he is the back that Ballard or Dixon were. If we were still read-option, he would be even more dangerous. That said, he is certainly not a weak point for the team. Milton and Robinson show tons of potential and a bright future. I still believe the negativity re: Griffin is premature.

TE - [C+] Need Malcolm back. Not for Kentucky either. Let him get that extra week of rest and unleash him on Tennessee. Then rest him again for MTSU to be ready for the stretch run. If we ever have Brandon Hill, Johnson and Green all healthy, that will be a formidable rotation.

WR - [C+] mixed bag here. I attribute some of our problems to the scheme, which I will get to later. The good: Bumphis seems to have it all coming together. I hope he continues what he started against Auburn in SEC play. I still have a lot of hope for Robert Johnson, Tubby and Morrow becoming impact players. We still dont appear to have an elite talent, but I think RoJo is going to emerge and Tubby will be a star if we can get him the ball more efficiently. Morrow is just a freshman, let him develop. The bad: consistent inconsistency. drops, route-errors, etc. Hopefully Brewster will start getting this on track. If the route options are as elaborate as someone alluded to the other day, we need to start over.

OL - [B-] I love that we have been able to rest Smith and get Malone quality snaps in the process. This line is more rubber band than brick wall, but it has done a good enough job of slowing the other team. Still looking for someone to snap a DL's head back on a running play. Tobias Smith is the only guy that I have seen do it so far. I think we are very strong on technique, which will only improve going forward. The line will take on a different personality with T. Smith in there, we just have to hope he can make it through the rest of the season.

DL - [C] Really my whole conversation here goest to personnel decisions. I still dont like the full-line subs. We have never been a team to get pressure in the run or pass game consistently since Wilson has been here, and that concerns me. We were 95th in TFL going into the USA game. Having watched the line a little closer, one of the things I am concerned about his how we teach our players to use their hands. It seems to be more about strength and less about quickness with the hands, and I think that is backwards. That said, Quay is going to be a star. He should really be 1st team opposite Boyd right now. PJ Jones should make a big impact when he returns, hopefully in time for UT. More of the same so far from Boyd and Autry seems to be getting into gear - you really cant expect too much from Autry against these teams that let it go so quickly.

LB - [B-] Hopefully it has just been our simplified schemes that has made this unit look fairly pedestrian. Individually, we have seen a lot of good things out of Wells and Skinner. Cam is still invaluable for his leadership out there and hopefully become more of a factor as the season continues. Still a lot of potential in McKinney.

CB -
[A+] One of the best combos we have seen.

S - Nickoe appears to be rounding into form. Broomfield is a little feast or famine, but he is getting the job done. This group and the LBs has to get the intermediate middle nailed down going forward.

Offensive Scheme and Personnel - So far, offensive statistics are less than stellar, especially considering the teams we faced. Looks like they truly tailored it to Tyler, which is good. Need to see more pistol, more of the "soul-crushing counter" play in the run game. Need to get the ball to Tubby in space and let him do his thing. So far it has been deep-middle and deep sideline routes with him, which doesnt make a lot of sense. More bubble screens for Bumphis and RoJo. The quick throw to RoJo is one of our more consistent plays - he almost always gets 4+ yards out of it. I hope that M. Johnson truly opens this offense up. Stay on schedule, run some quick slants and crossing routes with the RB as a safety valve. Keep using Dak just like we are.

Defensive Scheme and Personnel - dont have much to add here. Covered most of it in the DL bit above. It just 17ing seems like we 17ing sub our entire defense on some set schedule regardless of the situation. Like I have said before, it seems like our D could go out, get a 3 and out, go rest while our offense runs a 10 minute drive, then still see the 2nd team D run out the next drive just because it is their turn - doesnt matter if the game is close or they have good field position or whatever. I am glad we got some experience for our backups, but I hope this wholesale substitution pattern ends soon.

ROS Outlook -

Kentucky and MTSU are still no doubters, guaranteeing us bowl eligibility before the end of October, which is just awesome.
Tennessee, Arkansas and Ole Miss are "should wins" - Our team matches up beautifully with UT. Arkansas is a dumpster fire, but you all know why I cant put this as a guarantee (very close though). Ole Miss should be a guarantee, but the law of averages and home field advantage has me not wanting to wake the indians with a guarantee.
A&M is a "can win" - their offensive scheme worries me - my hope is that the home field tips it in our favor.
Bama and LSU - should not win....right?

I am going to stick with my 8 win prediction for now.
 

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Good info, but I don't see how you can say we match up well with Tennessee. You even wrote we're not getting pressure on the QB, and they've got the best QB/WR duo we're going to see all year IMO.

That game scares the hell out of me, because their WRs are probably better than our CBs.
 

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I'm not sure I'd say their WR's are better than our CBs. I would say that they are the best WRs we will see and we have the best DBs they will see.

Tennessee's weakness is their running game, and that enables us to try to make them one dimensional. I admit that Bray could break things open with one of his big throws, but he also runs the risk of allowing Banks and Company to break things open with an interception.

What our defense will do against him is to try to make him sustain drive. I doubt he'll get those big open looks that he had against NC State against us.
 

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I think Azzuri

alluded to one possibility of why we haven't gotten great pressure on qbs. It seems that most of the teams we've not had success pressuring this season, so far, have gotten rid of the ball quickly. They haven't sat in the pocket for 5+ seconds. However, Bray seems to stay in the pocket a great deal of the time. This might be what he's getting at.

ETA: fixed for spelling due to autocorrect on iPhone, initially
 
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I don't get the DL technique either. Have you seen us stunt all year? We look like we teach bull rush and that's about it to my eye anyway. Hope it's just part of the vanilla scheme we've been running.

QB's make mistakes when you throw off their internal clock and rhythm. thusfar we've allowed most QB's to feel confident about how much time they're going to have and where we're sending people from.
 

AzzurriDawg4

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Good info, but I don't see how you can say we match up well with Tennessee. You even wrote we're not getting pressure on the QB, and they've got the best QB/WR duo we're going to see all year IMO.

That game scares the hell out of me, because their WRs are probably better than our CBs.

Like others have said, they run longer developing pass plays, not much of a run game, and we have awesome corners. If they line Patterson up in the slot and use the middle of the field, we could be in trouble.

I just meant that they are improved and scary on offense, but we do match up well with them. Just saying that gives us a good chance of stopping them, especially at home. Every year since we have run this Diaz/Wilson scheme, the D clicks at some point in the season after looking mediocre early. I think there is a decent chance that happens v. UT this year.
 

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Great read, but I think Chris Smith should have been mentioned as an outstanding possesion reciever.
 

GloryDawg

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I don't care what blitz package you have if the QB is throwing the ball as soon as he gets the snap you are not going to sack him.
 

KurtRambis4

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See Big D's posts.

I (or anyone on here) cannot really comment to what technique they are being taught. Like Big D stated, it doesn't matter when the qb gets rid of the ball immediately. I'm not saying that this is 100% the reason, just that it could be.
 

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I'll disagree on Malcolm Johnson. I don't see how he can really be "game ready" for Tennessee if he doesn't get some reps in the Kentucky game. I think its important he gets some meaningful snaps against KY BECAUSE we need him to be a factor in the TN game.
 

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I don't care what blitz package you have if the QB is throwing the ball as soon as he gets the snap you are not going to sack him.


Answer me this. If I'm playing against a defense who is primarily playing a zone with big open gaps in it for my receivers WHY would I hold the ball? Its a heck of a lot easier to get rid of the ball at QB when you have receivers coming open within 2 to 3 seconds by finding the openings in our very soft zone coverage than it would be if we had our DBs glued to receivers in man coverage.
 

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This is true, but we make that easy by giving 10 yard cushion to WR's more often. i think we're all curious as to how our defense will look in the coming weeks.
 

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I (or anyone on here) cannot really comment to what technique they are being taught. Like Big D stated, it doesn't matter when the qb gets rid of the ball immediately. I'm not saying that this is 100% the reason, just that it could be.

If pass rush was the only issue, I would agree, but lack of penetration hurts the run D as well
 

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You're right. The answer to that type of offense is to man up and jam the receivers at the LOS (if you have the db's to do it) and to bring pressure. The drawback is that you could possibly get beat deep.
 

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A&M is a "can win" - their offensive scheme worries me - my hope is that the home field tips it in our favor.

Same here, but we have seen Kevin Sumlin's offense before and that factors in. This game still worries me but not because we will be totally unprepared for their scheme.
 

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I think Tyler Russell has shown some improvement in throwing the deep ball. In the games I've watched, almost all of his throws have been catchable...some were dropped, some the DB made a good play, and some resulted in PI penalties. I would agree that Perkins looked good in all games except the South Alabama game. Beyond the long TD run, he was bottled up pretty good and looked to have a minor leg injury, ankle would be my guess. The offensive line is still too porous against inferior competition. The teams we have played have been able to routinely pressure Tyler with a 4-man rush. This needs to be cleaned up and the offense will click a little better. I think defenses have adjust to our use of the TE in the first couple games and have a LB underneath with a safety over the top. I don't think it's all Marcus Green not getting open, but more a fact that he is considered a threat on and the defenses have made an adjustment. As for receivers, I think they are playing better, besides the Troy game, than we have seen in the past, but still not getting open early enough. Morrow is simply immature at this time, running bad routes, giving up on plays and making freshman mistakes. The future looks bright but time will tell. Our defensive line is a bit of a disappointment so far. Boyd is solid but not dominant, and Autry shows flashes of brilliance but has not dominated. I am surprised that not many have mentioned Preston Smith...the film says he's going to be good and should get more PT. We simply don't get consistent push with our front 4 against weaker opponents and that needs to change. As was mentioned, we may not be seeing it simply because we are playing such a weak cover 2 with corners 10 yards off the ball so the QB takes three steps and fires. Holding the ball for less than 2 seconds will not allow the DL to be a factor. Our CBs look good, but obviously hate the zone. I think our biggest weakness right now is that our LBs don't play the cover 2 well...they simply don't drop deep enough to clog the middle of the field and force the QB to make tougher throws. I'm not sure if this is by design, i.e. commit to the run first, or they simply aren't reading the plays fast enough to shift to pass coverage. I think Nickoe is a step slow, but is improving so hopefully he'll get his legs under him more as the season goes on. Broomfield to me has really been a non-factor, which is sad to me because he's one of my favorite players. It's tough learning a new position that may not be as instinctive, but I'd like to see him make more plays.
 

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I Agree with you. There is one play that jaming will not work and that's that bubble screen they run. The guy getting the ball is one yard off the line and you have two WR in front of him blocking. How do you stop that play from getting five yards?
 

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Really the same as jamming

Remember when Wells drove the blocker into the screenee during the auburn game? It does take a strong db though, if the wr is stronger it wouldn't work.
 

GloryDawg

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Seems with Troy and USA if they caught the ball they got five or more yards. We would send to stop it but all the blockers had to do is screen the tacklers and the reciver would get five before the LB got to them. I don't that play seems to me very hard to stop.
 

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Maybe I missed it

But I never saw us playing press, it always seemed we were 10 yards off the ball against both of those teams.
 

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what film looking button ... I would like to know because I dont see anything and I cant even post a pic.
 

GloryDawg

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You are right we did play off the ball but even if you put two over to jam up the recievers in the front you still have the one behind them that the ball went and he seemed to find the opening to gain five to seven yards every time before help got over there to stop.
 

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Thats if you are playing off because you have given the play the time to develop. If you are playing press, you can slip your receiver (dangerous because a screen can turn into a go), or you can do what wells did to auburn and drive the blocker into the screened receiver to disrupt the play.
 
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AzzurriDawg4

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Agree with most of this. Smith is definitely growing up. I would like to see what the combo of Autry/Quay/Boyd/Smith would do.

Agree on Perkins, but really we are only going to see 2 nasty run defenses the rest of the way - and we don't expect to win those games anyway.
 

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It doesn't work on iPad. I've been on other sites with iPad and it just posts the video not the link. For whatever reason the film button just posts the link on sixpack.




^^^^^^see just the link^^^^^^show me the way and I'll gladly follow but the film button is not the way when dealing with a mobile/iPad device.
 
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I know exactly what you are comparing him to...

..you are comparing him to some mythical ideal that is impossible for him to reach. I don't know how old you are, but if you are 30 yr. old or under, all your life you've heard your father ***** about MSU never having a SEC caliber QB. Not that MSU finally does have a SEC caliber QB, he gets a B- grade on a messageboard.
 

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Just like Azzurri said, you are basing that off of being an MSU fan and the fact that we've never had a good QB. If he were rated by someone with no ties to our school, Azzurri's rating would be about right.
 

AzzurriDawg4

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Its called objectivity.

So you would give him an A+. Ok, what was Cam Newton? Andrew Luck? RGIII? I would like to know the new grading system you invented that makes Tyler Russell an A+.

I agree that he is probably going to wind up the best passer we have ever had, but thus far he has been far from A+. Right now he has a 55.7 completion percentage and barely 200 yards a game against JSU, Auburn, Troy and USA. There is the oft recited fact that he holds the bar far too long at times. He has done a great job of avoiding turnovers, I will give him that.

It's not a mythical ideal I am basing it on, it is just excellent QB play. Despite being a State fan, I know excellent QB play when I see it. Do you think Tyler would give himself an A+?

Regarding my age, I am old enough to understand that State never having a great QB doesnt put Tyler beyond reproach. One has nothing to do with the other, and if he finishes the regular season an A+, I will buy you a beer in Atlanta.