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Hanmudog

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1. I knew we were going to lose as soon as I laid eyes on that team. They were far and away the most athletic team we have played so far.
2. FAU's big men dominated Baily and Lewis inside.
3. We quit getting Ravern the ball in the last 15 minutes of the game.
4. Reik and Lewis are complete wastes of scholarships. Reik because of his knees and Lewis because of his cluelessness.
5. We did not go at FAU's big man despite the fact that he had 4 fouls with 13 minutes left to play. Stupid, Rick.
6. We never trapped or did anything to force turnovers and get easy baskets. Stupid, Rick.
7. We let them dictate the entire tempo of the game. Stupid Rick.
8. Jalen Steele played like a freshman and did some dumb **** at critical times.
9. Kodi rebounded and defended well but for some reason was reluctant to shoot until the last 2 minutes.
10. Which brings me to my rant.......

We have the absolute worst freaking basketball fans in the world. Our fans do nothing but ***** and act like we should be a top 25 program yet can't be bothered to show up for games or get their tickets to someone who can. I know the excuses about the quality of our opponents but that is total horseshit. Do you think these basketball schools that pack out their arenas are playing Duke or Georgetown every night? Hell no. They show up and yell and support their team. The Hump is like a 17ing morgue. With the game on the line tonight and FAU shooting free throws, I could hear a baby fart on the other side of the Hump. It is hard to get real loud with 2500 fans in there. The results we are getting are about what we deserve at this point. ****** fans deserve a ****** team.
Furthermore, most of the ones on here that ***** incessantly would not know Brian Bryant if parked his junk on your forehead or any other players on our team for that matter. You can't look at the name on a jersey and assume a team sucks anymore. I am not saying that FAU is going to have a great year but physically they manhandled us inside but you can't see that from looking at a boxscore and forming an opinion.
 

Hanmudog

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1. I knew we were going to lose as soon as I laid eyes on that team. They were far and away the most athletic team we have played so far.
2. FAU's big men dominated Baily and Lewis inside.
3. We quit getting Ravern the ball in the last 15 minutes of the game.
4. Reik and Lewis are complete wastes of scholarships. Reik because of his knees and Lewis because of his cluelessness.
5. We did not go at FAU's big man despite the fact that he had 4 fouls with 13 minutes left to play. Stupid, Rick.
6. We never trapped or did anything to force turnovers and get easy baskets. Stupid, Rick.
7. We let them dictate the entire tempo of the game. Stupid Rick.
8. Jalen Steele played like a freshman and did some dumb **** at critical times.
9. Kodi rebounded and defended well but for some reason was reluctant to shoot until the last 2 minutes.
10. Which brings me to my rant.......

We have the absolute worst freaking basketball fans in the world. Our fans do nothing but ***** and act like we should be a top 25 program yet can't be bothered to show up for games or get their tickets to someone who can. I know the excuses about the quality of our opponents but that is total horseshit. Do you think these basketball schools that pack out their arenas are playing Duke or Georgetown every night? Hell no. They show up and yell and support their team. The Hump is like a 17ing morgue. With the game on the line tonight and FAU shooting free throws, I could hear a baby fart on the other side of the Hump. It is hard to get real loud with 2500 fans in there. The results we are getting are about what we deserve at this point. ****** fans deserve a ****** team.
Furthermore, most of the ones on here that ***** incessantly would not know Brian Bryant if parked his junk on your forehead or any other players on our team for that matter. You can't look at the name on a jersey and assume a team sucks anymore. I am not saying that FAU is going to have a great year but physically they manhandled us inside but you can't see that from looking at a boxscore and forming an opinion.
 

Hanmudog

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1. I knew we were going to lose as soon as I laid eyes on that team. They were far and away the most athletic team we have played so far.
2. FAU's big men dominated Baily and Lewis inside.
3. We quit getting Ravern the ball in the last 15 minutes of the game.
4. Reik and Lewis are complete wastes of scholarships. Reik because of his knees and Lewis because of his cluelessness.
5. We did not go at FAU's big man despite the fact that he had 4 fouls with 13 minutes left to play. Stupid, Rick.
6. We never trapped or did anything to force turnovers and get easy baskets. Stupid, Rick.
7. We let them dictate the entire tempo of the game. Stupid Rick.
8. Jalen Steele played like a freshman and did some dumb **** at critical times.
9. Kodi rebounded and defended well but for some reason was reluctant to shoot until the last 2 minutes.
10. Which brings me to my rant.......

We have the absolute worst freaking basketball fans in the world. Our fans do nothing but ***** and act like we should be a top 25 program yet can't be bothered to show up for games or get their tickets to someone who can. I know the excuses about the quality of our opponents but that is total horseshit. Do you think these basketball schools that pack out their arenas are playing Duke or Georgetown every night? Hell no. They show up and yell and support their team. The Hump is like a 17ing morgue. With the game on the line tonight and FAU shooting free throws, I could hear a baby fart on the other side of the Hump. It is hard to get real loud with 2500 fans in there. The results we are getting are about what we deserve at this point. ****** fans deserve a ****** team.
Furthermore, most of the ones on here that ***** incessantly would not know Brian Bryant if parked his junk on your forehead or any other players on our team for that matter. You can't look at the name on a jersey and assume a team sucks anymore. I am not saying that FAU is going to have a great year but physically they manhandled us inside but you can't see that from looking at a boxscore and forming an opinion.
 

Irondawg

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Seems to me from reading reports and box scores that we have the following main problems:

1) Our big men are totally deficient on both ends of the floor. Kodi just isn't a good on or off the ball defender and is not a true scoring threat in the low post; Elgin's health doesn't allow him to play defense very well and even healthy he's not a gifted scorer; Lewis seems to have zero basketball IQ and loses his assignment astoundingly quick and has no offensive game. Riek I'm assuming must just totally stink in practice to not get PT above the other guys.

2) Our PG situation is unsettled. Twanny's assist to TO ratio is good but he must not be playing good on the ball defense or he'd be getting more minutes. Bryant is still adjusting to D1 and overall might not be quite as good as we'd hoped. Shooting doesn't seem to be his strong suit either.

3) Our SG can't or won't score. Benock while playing good defense doesn't shoot much and is strickly aspot up shooter. Steele appears to settle for mostly 3's as well. Shaun Smith can't be classified as anything other than a disappointment at this point.

4) With no offensive threat in the post, teams can play tight man on the perimter b/c very few of our guys can take their man off the dribble and either get layups or open looks for other players. The lack of guards that can penetrate is the main flaw in Rick's current "somebody make a play" offensive philosophy.

5) We still don't get the concept of blocking out.

6) Ravern is our only guy really capable of dropping 20 on any night.

7) I doubt we still pass and move without the ball well at all either.

Now given all that I'd suggest Rick do a few things:

1) Defensively go to a zone until someone proves they're hot from the perimeter. It seems we're giving up a ton of layups and putbacks. In this zone I'd consider seeing if Reik could man the middle some just to give a presence in there. Otherwise for now I'd go small and put Kodi in the middle, Benock and Ravern on the wings and Bryant/Beckham/Steele up top. I know Rick prefers man to man - but you have to have the horses to pull that off and we don't have the horses and we don't have a last line of defense like Varnado back there this year. Which is why I'm so baffled that Riek couldn't give us 12 quality minutes a game just protecting the rim. He must just be awful.

2) In practice sit Ravern/Dee/Sidney out and tell the other guys they have to do all the scoring and see who steps up. We should have some guys with 15 ppg potential somewhere on that bench.

3) In gamesrun a simple single (or double) high pick and roll with PG/Kodi and Ravern & Benockspotted up on the wings or run the old Pacers double low pick and run Ravern off 10 screens until he gets open some. I'd also like to see our offense more up tempo - if we're going to rely on the 3 like it appears we have to find a way to get good looks from there.
 

Hanmudog

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1. Kodi is actually very good in the low post on offense on the rare occasions he is on the block. His low post defense has been a bit of a surprise too. However, Lewis and Baily are bar none the worst low post defensive players since Eric Stevens.

2. Twanny has not been as bad as I thought he would be but he should be coming in for Bryant not the other way around.

3. As bad as I hate to say it, Benock is a hell of alot better than Steele or Smith right now. Depressing.

4. Mostly true but Bryant is a pretty good penetrator but he does not do it enough.

5. Nailed it.

6. Obvious.

7. Our passing and movement had been better until last night. Their zone made us look like we were doing nuclear physics.

And I 100% agree that we need to play zone for the rest of the year because our big men will get killed inside during SEC play. They freaking suck.
 

Shmuley

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13th year of the same old ****. A recruiter with below average coaching skills. Players with no real concept of team who are not developed in any sense, nor held accountable for their own development. I was thinking about it the other day. I have listened to maybe 3 minutes of basketball this entire season so far. I don't think I could give any less of a **** about the stansbury recycled early season program if I tried. It's tired and completely worn out.

I wonder how many other state fans are like me?
 

bonedaddy401

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<div style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">"****** fans deserve a ****** team" - Hanmudog</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">
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SallyStansbury

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It isNOT a surprise that he plays well there. He played very well against FLA' s bigswhen we had Osby @ 4 during stretches the in the SEC tourney a couple of yrs ago. He played exceptionally well vs. Cousins and Patterson vs. Kentucky (better than 215 lb Jarvis in foul trouble). Kodi can and should play 5.

If we still had Osby or even Turner to play 4 we would probably be doing this already, but we don't.That is another discussion that has been beaten to death.

Here is the tricky part so I will type it slowly so people can get this. This is where is gets kind of confusing.....if we play Kodi at 5 who do we play at 4? Ravern is too skinny?Benock isn't athletic enough to guard much bigger guys? I say try Tranny as the patentedStansbury "Little big man!" @ 4. He is 6'5" at least, athletic and rebounds fairly well? Why not you ask? Who will back up Bryant youask, noone will. He will play 38 min per game at the point and smile just like Barry Stewart used to do @ 2. It comes down to this: Tranny at 4 is less of a deficiency than Reik/Lewis at 5. Plus you get the benefit of Kodi performing better at the 5 forcing him to be around the basket to rebound and score.This has been a gripe of mine since before the season began.

Let me also ***** a littleabout Ravern getting covered up last night in a box and 1 and comment for the 16th time fishwater style: That mother 17er would be well served to have 15 additional lbs of muscle from a summer's worthof steroids. Instead we get to watch him as a senior with that pissed off look on his face wondering why he can't shake his defender any better than he is.
 

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The fans didn't pack out DWS every game when Croom was the coach, because there wasn't a good product on the field. If Stansbury would put a team out there that was working hard and doing the best they could to win games, the fans would be there. Even when Mullen wasn't winning, the fans showed up because the product on the field was noticeably different. Stansbury keeps throwing the same clueless players out there, running their same clueless offense, while they cluelessly lose to teams they shouldn't, while looking clueless the entire time. Put something on the floor I can be proud of and excited to watch and I'll be there. After watching that pointless scrimmage earlier this year, it was safe to say I wouldn't be attending any irrelevant games this season to watch a bunch of thug ballers run up and down the court and turn the ball over like they are playing in Sanderson Center. Stansbury makes me sick. Clueless, just like his players. So screw them. I'm not supporting that crap that's on the floor this year.
 

SallyStansbury

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We play this team again, we beat the **** out of them like we are supposed to. We make the adjustments, go to a zone, design plays to get Ravern's fragile *** the ball somehow, etc.....

Coach Stans and his assistants are deficient at making INGAME adjustments. Last year we beat Alabama the second time around, Fla the second time around, Ark maybe? It is a trend. We have the talent. We simply lack the ability to adjust ingame. That is why I hoped we would hire a COACH who is good at this type of stuff instead of Brooks (at least we got the Meridian kid though)? Maybe he is the guy, maybe Coach Stans will listen to him? You don't get a second shot to gameplan in the NCAA tournament though.
 

DowntownDawg

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....we flopped last year and didn't make the NCAA tournament. We lost our two best players from that team in Steward and Varnado. Sidney is out 9 games. But the biggest reason that nobody is fired up is because we continue to have ridiculous crap happen in the off season that severely handicaps our program. This year, we lost Osby, who was loaded with potential coming out of high school and was never coached up. On top of that, Bost's stupidity has really screwed us. And more and more people are beginning to realize that the common denominator is Rick Stansbury. I expect us to lose more of these games. We've been too close in all of them to feel good at all about this team.

And as far as the crowd goes, when a lot of people made the drive to Oxford to see us get our 8th football win and it's 2 days after the Thanksgiving holiday and most people live an hour or more away, it's just not going to happen, especially with Sidney and Bost out. Nobody really cares that much about watching Benock. I'd wager that everybody in the SEC outside of Kentucky and maybe UT is having crowds like that.
 

tenureplan

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He knows the SEC coaches and their tendencies too. That's why he wins conference games yet loses non conference games to teams that shouldn't be in the gym with us.
 

Hanmudog

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Basically yall are saying that when we start winning alot then you will show up.We piss and moan about the product on the court yet we have been in the top 4 teams in the SEC on a yearly basis but we don't have nearly the 4th best fan support. There is no 17ing excuse for that pathetic showing by the fans last night. The crowd was worse than the team.

I could give a **** if most of yall go to a game but for Pete's sake if you have tickets then get them to someone who will go. Do you think our guys get pumped about playing in front of 2500 fans?
 

SallyStansbury

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Or if he calls someone after the game to ask what to do, then implements the strategy between when we first lose to a team and when we next play them. If it is B, I wouldn't have a problem with Rick wearing one of those cellphone earpieces ingameso that whoever isgood at figuring out the strategy could relay the information directly to Rick in realtime. Plus this might give him additional cred with the recruits? Those earpiece phone thingsseem to be a hit with that crowd.
 

Tds &amp; Beer

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And it all comes down to Stansbury. I don't understand what he does. What does he do? Whatever he does tell them during timeouts must not be that important because half of the time they aren't even listening. That's one sign of a bad coach. You can tell they don't respect anything he has to say, not that he's saying anything relevant anyway.
 

Coach34

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Hanmudog said:
Basically yall are saying that when we start winning alot then you will show up.&nbsp;We piss and moan about the product on the court yet we have been in the top 4 teams in the SEC on a yearly basis but we don't have nearly the 4th best fan support. There is no 17ing excuse for that pathetic showing by the fans last night. The crowd was worse than the team.

I could give a **** if most of yall go to a game but for Pete's sake if you have tickets then get them to someone who will go. Do you think our guys get pumped about playing in front of 2500 fans?


We are not the 4th best SEC program. We are 5th. It's obvious to everyone that Kentucky, Tennessee, Florida, and Vandy are ahead of us

And being the 5th best team in what is the 6th best conference in the nation at best isnt really that big of a deal. We are as relevant in basketball as Fresno State is in football. 2 NCAA's the last 5 years, and one of those was only due to winning the SEC Tourney. Those are not the kind of results that produce sellouts Hanmu.
 

Coach34

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then he might get some slack- but when he should be exploiting the weakness of the SEC West and becoming dominant by being a constant tourney team, all he does is **** the bed and lose to Rider, FAU, and other nameless teams....
 

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Hanmudog said:
<span style="font-style: italic;">1. I knew we were going to lose as soon as I laid eyes on that team. They were far and away the most athletic team we have played so far.</span>
Seriously? During the first half, they looked like a high school team trying to play a college team. They had no single athlete on their team who was as gifted an athlete as any of our starting five.
<br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;">2. FAU's big men dominated Baily and Lewis inside. </span>
What big men? They were a tiny team. 52 just happened to be their best player. 40 wasn't really a factor. <span style="font-style: italic;"></span>
<br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;">4. Reik and Lewis are complete wastes of scholarships. Reik because of his knees and Lewis because of his cluelessness.</span>
I maintain Lewis is at least as good an overall contributor as Elgin.<br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"></span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;">10. Which brings me to my rant.......</span><br style="font-style: italic;"><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;">We have the absolute worst freaking basketball fans in the world. Our fans do nothing but ***** and act like we should be a top 25 program yet can't be bothered to show up for games or get their tickets to someone who can. I know the excuses about the quality of our opponents but that is total horseshit. Do you think these basketball schools that pack out their arenas are playing Duke or Georgetown every night? Hell no. They show up and yell and support their team. The Hump is like a 17ing morgue. With the game on the line tonight and FAU shooting free throws, I could hear a baby fart on the other side of the Hump. It is hard to get real loud with 2500 fans in there. The results we are getting are about what we deserve at this point. ****** fans deserve a ****** team.</span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;">Furthermore, most of the ones on here that ***** incessantly would not know Brian Bryant if parked his junk on your forehead or any other players on our team for that matter. You can't look at the name on a jersey and assume a team sucks anymore. I am not saying that FAU is going to have a great year but physically they manhandled us inside but you can't see that from looking at a boxscore and forming an opinion.</span><br style="font-style: italic;"><br style="font-style: italic;">Attendance should have been better. If I can't go to a game, I make sure somebody uses my ticket.
BUT- they fans put forward just as much effort last night as the team. I can't count how many turnovers we had because of lazy passes. We were lackadaisical, slow getting back up the court, no effort to rebound. FAU deserved to win because they obviously wanted it more. Our team didn't put any effort forward last night worth cheering for.
 

missouridawg

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team in the SEC is like midgets arguing over who is taller.

Stansbury's best attribute is his consistency. Unfortunately for us State fans, it's consistently average.
 

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On the crowds, as much success as we have had in basketball. The GTR is not a basketball area. Never has been.....now I am not saying State should just accept crowds of 2,500 until after January. But the truth is people in close proximity are not basketball fans (in general).

When Richard Williams took over....even the students did not attend games. He made the rounds on fraternity row begging students to show up for games. In 1991, when we finally had a decent team,we had small crowds for all thegames until LSU and Shaq came to town.

I remember in 1995, with all those guys coming back and so much potential for a big season. Wednesday night games were half full. I remember leaving the football stadium, after the Tanneyhill/USC beat down, and walking to the Hump for midnight madness in the fall of 95. Some State fan leaving the football stadium,ask me why everyone is going to the Hump. REALLY?

State is going to have to play more pre-January games in the larger populated areas of the state. Or getthe AD andcoach togo around and energize the students. There are enough students on campus to fill their sections easily. That should be happening at the least.
 

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As a fan, i'm just tired of watching the typicaly Stans sloppy team. No boxing out, great shooters who can't hit free throws, unexplainable substitutions, etc.

Maybe when we have a coach that does the small things right, but has less talent, if he loses more than Stans then maybe i'll miss what we have. But that doesn't change that I'm just tired of watching the same mistakes.

It's the league as well. I'm tired of watching BS reffing against the top SEC teams too. After the Kentucky game last year I felt like a wrestling fan. And that just hasn't gone away.
 

DowntownDawg

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.....every one of us knows what we are going to get with Stansbury, and there are very few people out there who believe that he can get to a sweet 16.

Why did people turn out to see a losing football team in 2009? Because Mullen was new, and fans could see that we were better, and that we had potential to do something.

MSU basketball is the polar opposite right now. Rick's been there forever, it's the same old song and dance, and nobody thinks he can really get it done when it comes down to it. There's very little excitement around the program right now.
 

bonedaddy401

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waste time, gas and money to come watch us lose to Florida International? Until Stans proves we can win on a consistent basis and play up to 1. Our ability2. Our expectations I won't be mad at anybody for not showing up. You don't produce, people don't show up. It's not brain surgery.
 

Hanmudog

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bonedaddy401 said:
waste time, gas and money to come watch us lose to Florida International? Until Stans proves we can win on a consistent basis and play up to 1. Our ability2. Our expectations I won't be mad at anybody for not showing up. You don't produce, people don't show up. It's not brain surgery.

********. We were 4-0 coming into the game last night and we have consistently won under Stansbury just not to the lofty expectations of our nonexistent fans. As far as playing up to our ability, have you actually laid eyes on the team we are putting on the court right now. They are playing to their ability. That is the sad part.
 

Thick

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Than Stans! The coaches in Dan's world are the best money can buy compared to Stan's world! Terrible effort.
 

bonedaddy401

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we were the luckiest 4-0 team in the country. The writing is on the wall as to what this team is made of. People are just tiered of beingdisappointed. I don't blame them.
 

dawgstudent

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that shouldn't be. Bailey will be 5-10 minutes/game type of player when Sidney gets back. As long as we come out of this at the worst 7-2, I am fine with our first 9 games.
 

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so that's 0-4 against the best coaches money can buy, unless you are including Nutt as one of those.



because he takes of business against everybody else and beats the teams he is supposed to beat
 

MSUCosmo

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Lofty expectations? Just ONE sweet sixteen, really? Yeah MSU fans are aiming for the heavens.

If you are going to continue to beat that drum that we are tops in the SEC, then with the **** OOC schedule we play year in and year out, MSU basketball should be ranked EVERY year by December. Why doesn't that happen? Because Stans continues to LOSE games in those **** OOC schedules, especially to teams that the "4th best team in the SEC" has NO business losing to on their home floor.
 
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Am I going to drive 2 and a half to watch them lose to Fla Atlantic? The first few games I watched on Maroon to the Max and what I saw convinced me that until our "better" players come back, they are going to be atrocious.
 

Thick

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but the product is what puts asses in seats, period! I know how many times we have won the "Weak West", but at the end of the day nothing has changed to excite this fanbase. Mediocre recruiting (except for this class), no offensive sets, poor ft shooting, offseason transfers, drama, and poor in game coaching gets you exactly where we are today....the favorites to win a ****** division in a not so strong basketball conference. Hell, the students apparently don't care that much either, why you ask, because they are making bowl plans baby!!

My family gets much more excited about football season and even baseball, because of the fanfare, the atmosphere, and it's a weekend event. I don't get mad about Stans losing to ****** teams or excited about him beating ****** teams, i.e. SEC, what pisses me off the most are the fans that think we can't find a better coach with the facilities that we have right now, and act as if we should be loyal to RS. He was one foot out of the door heading to Clemson....let him go. I'll pack his bags, and strap his kids in for him.
 

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41-7 with the undefeated team playing for the NC. He's winning with Croom's players too. RS is losing to FAU teams with players he recruited and signed himself, again nice try. Now go prescribe some Levaquin to someone!
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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than 80% of the field. Being better than 80% of the field of D1 basketball programs earns you a ranking of about #70.