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Perd Hapley

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For Mexico.

GM announces plans to spend $4 billion to move production from Mexico to the US.


Pretty cool to see this savvy business move….from a company that has certainly never made any horrendous long term financial decisions for short term gain***

Also, please enjoy your now more expensive GM vehicle, if you are in the market for one in the next 1-2 years….even if its not one if the 3 moving to the US.
 

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Pretty cool to see this savvy business move….from a company that has certainly never made any horrendous long term financial decisions for short term gain***

Also, please enjoy your now more expensive GM vehicle, if you are in the market for one in the next 1-2 years….even if its not one if the 3 moving to the US.
So you're saying things cost more which means more money for taxes, work down the dept, and start improving inflation. I'll pay more for that and likely better quality with it being a new factory. My last few gm have been lemons.
 

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So you're saying things cost more which means more money for taxes, work down the dept, and start improving inflation. I'll pay more for that and likely better quality with it being a new factory. My last few gm have been lemons.
Not new. Existing plants. Good news about that shuttered one though, for sure.
 

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So you're saying things cost more which means more money for taxes, work down the dept, and start improving inflation. I'll pay more for that and likely better quality with it being a new factory. My last few gm have been lemons.
Yeah, it means the American consumer will pay for all that stuff you just said, and more. Which is fine I guess, if you just that gung ho of the American nostalgia and prestige of….a Chevy Traverse?

Another thing is that all three (I believe) are going to UAW plants, so that’s going to be an interesting dynamic in a few years if the tariffs ever get relaxed in a new administration. I know for certain that the Michigan plant and the Spring Hill, TN plant are UAW.

I’ll just repeat what I said a few weeks ago….ultimately the tariffs would simply expose who was the most over-levereged in Mexico and was least compliant to USMCA requirements in their current supply chain. Looks like GM is the leader in the clubhouse for that particular distinction.

Ultimately, nobody is ever going to move stuff back because they really want to, it’s all about the bottom line.
 

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He looks like he’s jacking off two dudes simultaneously.
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Yeah, it means the American consumer will pay for all that stuff you just said, and more. Which is fine I guess, if you just that gung ho of the American nostalgia and prestige of….a Chevy Traverse?

Another thing is that all three (I believe) are going to UAW plants, so that’s going to be an interesting dynamic in a few years if the tariffs ever get relaxed in a new administration. I know for certain that the Michigan plant and the Spring Hill, TN plant are UAW.

I’ll just repeat what I said a few weeks ago….ultimately the tariffs would simply expose who was the most over-levereged in Mexico and was least compliant to USMCA requirements in their current supply chain. Looks like GM is the leader in the clubhouse for that particular distinction.

Ultimately, nobody is ever going to move stuff back because they really want to, it’s all about the bottom line.
Right, it’s people like Nissan and now GMC, who had facilities in the US already that were defunct. So it’s good and bad.
 

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It's always about the bottom line. Nobody ever said it wasnt. Every business is about the bottom line. Everybody just keeps whining about how Trump is destroying everything but all the important economic numbers keep moving in the right direction. Which really pisses all the commies off
You are missing the point. The companies that are doing this all have one thing in common - they have existing production plants with idle capacity and can probably find workers to fill the jobs.

The overwhelming majority of companies are not in that position. Companies that have the available capital to build new domestic plants are not going to do that for a number of reasons, with one being that a project like that takes many years to plan, build, and implement. They are not going to commit to something like that when there is so much uncertainty. Will the tariffs be in effect next month? Next year? What about 5-10 years from now? Donald Trump does not even know the answer to that, so how do you expect anyone else to know? The dipshits cheering all of this on say that it will generate jobs one day and then say its just a negotiating tactic the next. Aside from those two assertions conflicting with each other, it illustrate the uncertainty of all of this - if nobody knows what the goal is, how can we measure or predict what the outcome will be?

The other side of the coin are the companies that either can't build domestic production because they lack the capital or companies that do not produce the item that would be subject to the tariff but instead rely on the supply chain to get it to either use in retail or in the production of another product. This is the spot where most businesses fall.
 
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Yeah I get it. When globalists retake control, which they will because the country is filled with morons, they will start shipping our jobs over seas again. Obviously all companies would prefer to pay $4 and hour compared to $40. I'm not sure what car companies dont have plants in the US but I suppose there are some. Not any that the average American is driving tho.
 

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Yeah I get it. When globalists retake control, which they will because the country is filled with morons, they will start shipping our jobs over seas again. Obviously all companies would prefer to pay $4 and hour compared to $40. I'm not sure what car companies dont have plants in the US but I suppose there are some. Not any that the average American is driving tho.
I don't know if they will. There has been a big political shift in this country. The Democrats who the Republican Globalist work side by side for that policy are doing nothing to help their cause. In fact, it is getting worse by the day. One example Just watching all those Mexican and other national flag waiving in LA while protesting is making it hard on Democrats to get a footing. They keep picking the wrong side of every issue. What's driving it is TDS. What Trump is for they are against regardless of what the issue. That's their platform and they use to have the media carry their water; they still do but no one believes what the media says anymore. To make it worse the last four years with whoever ran the white house opened a lot of eyes.
 

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From the interwebs:

  • Arlington, TX: Suburban, Tahoe
  • Roanoke, IN: Silverado 1500
  • Wentzville, MO: Colorado, Express
  • Bowling Green, KY: Corvette Stingray, Z06, Grand Sport, ZR1
  • Lansing, MI: Traverse, Camaro
  • Detroit, MI: Chevrolet
  • Kansas City, KS: Malibu
  • Lake Orion, MI: Sonic, Bolt EV, Cruise AV test vehicles
  • Flint, MI: Heavy-Duty
  • Spring Hill, TN: Engines for Tahoe, Silverado, Suburban, and Blazer
I think there is another in Louisianna.

These are sales figures from the sold in Mexico market:
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Pretty cool to see this savvy business move….from a company that has certainly never made any horrendous long term financial decisions for short term gain***

Also, please enjoy your now more expensive GM vehicle, if you are in the market for one in the next 1-2 years….even if its not one if the 3 moving to the US.
I’d say the horrendous leadership GM currently has is the reason for lower quality at high prices. The constant failure of the Active Fuel Management now coupled with the bearing failures in the 6.2 that is going to cost billions in warranty and recalls is going to heavily affect the bottom line.

It seems like every decision they make turns something to ****. You invented the friken small block, over head valve, v8 engine. In nineteen friken 55. How can it be terrible in 2025?

One of the most reliable, moderately recent, engines was the first gen GM 3.8 engine. Pull the friken designs for the mid 80’s Buick Grand National, drop the 90’s 3.4 liter DOHC cylinder heads on it, work out the updates, tune it for utility and not performance, put it in a half ton truck as well as SUVs and print money.

Boom. I just made you GM shareholders money on just that.
 

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I’d say the horrendous leadership GM currently has is the reason for lower quality at high prices. The constant failure of the Active Fuel Management now coupled with the bearing failures in the 6.2 that is going to cost billions in warranty and recalls is going to heavily affect the bottom line.

It seems like every decision they make turns something to ****. You invented the friken small block, over head valve, v8 engine. In nineteen friken 55. How can it be terrible in 2025?

One of the most reliable, moderately recent, engines was the first gen GM 3.8 engine. Pull the friken designs for the mid 80’s Buick Grand National, drop the 90’s 3.4 liter DOHC cylinder heads on it, work out the updates, tune it for utility and not performance, put it in a half ton truck as well as SUVs and print money.

Boom. I just made you GM shareholders money on just that.
The Chevy 350 is the greatest engine of all time. I worked at an express lube and two coworkers had different year Chevy 1500s. One had the 350 and the other had the 5.3. We loved looking at the difference. You could stow a family of 4 under the hood with all of the room you had with the 350 because it was just simple.
 
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I don't know if they will. There has been a big political shift in this country. The Democrats who the Republican Globalist work side by side for that policy are doing nothing to help their cause. In fact, it is getting worse by the day. One example Just watching all those Mexican and other national flag waiving in LA while protesting is making it hard on Democrats to get a footing. They keep picking the wrong side of every issue. What's driving it is TDS. What Trump is for they are against regardless of what the issue. That's their platform and they use to have the media carry their water; they still do but no one believes what the media says anymore. To make it worse the last four years with whoever ran the white house opened a lot of eyes.
lol
 
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Also, please enjoy your now more expensive GM vehicle, if you are in the market for one in the next 1-2 years….even if its not one if the 3 moving to the US.
Jokes on you - I'll never buy a GM product. So many better options manufactured in this country.
 
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It's not globalism, it's capitalism. Look at it this way ...

Imagine you come from nothing. You work your àss off and scratch together enough coin to start your own business or buy an existing one. Should you sacrifice your profitability to try and make products in the US where the city, county, state, and federal government drop layers upon layers of regulatory bullshìt on your doorstep and create mounds of monthly, quarterly, and annual paperwork for you to try to keep up with.

Then you have to go build a facility which will require an unbelievable amount of DEQ reports and and red tape to get approval on. Then you'll have to build a building to some ridiculous code and make it look a certain way because the local Mayor got an ordinance in saying every building should be made of the same shìt colored brick. Meanwhile, there will be a group of "concerned citizens" fighting you every step of way because your 17ing up something they care deeply about like the migratory path of the white winged eastern mosquito hawk.

After all of that, you get the privilege of trying to hire the American worker. The fat, lazy, entitled, a holes that aren't actually gainfully employed these days. They'll work for 6-8 months and jump right back on that unemployment gravy train you snatched them up from. They want Fridays off now. They want you to pay for their skyrocketing insurance costs. They'll want you to pat them on the head and run their tummies telling them how great they are for at best mediocre work in most cases. They'll likely find some kind of union to jump in with overtime.

17 that. Stuff will get expensive as 17 and be nowhere near the quality we image with American made these days.



The US is at full effective work capacity. We don't have the hardworking blue collar workforce that built this country from the 1880's to 1980's. We have some of those people and they're all working. If I build a new factory I either have to steal them and force existing businesses to hire the pieces of shìt or I have to hire the pieces of shìt. But either way, a business that relies on pieces of shìt employees is going to fail.


So rather than using tariffs to fix our problems how about this. Get these lazy mfers off unemployment, social security, and whatever other government teat they suckle from... Cut federal funding to every city, state, and county that doesn't eliminate 75% of the bullshìt red tape they have put in the books over the last 30 years. Fix our insurance system. Fix the public school system to quit codelling these 17ing kids and giving them grades just to move them along.

The biggest reason shìt is not made in the US anymore is other countries have hardworking blue collar motherf17ers that either work or starve to death. We have a bunch of candy àss pencil pushers that rely on the welfare state and support the regulation that crush the entrepreneurial spirit that built this country.


So you say it's the globalists and I say it's the gubmentists. Big government is the enemy of American manufacturing. Global trade is the only option for many US industries because the gubmentists have forced their hand. The solution is not to add a tariff, but to fix the root cause. Tariffs are and always have been a liberals solution to capitalism... Capitalism is economic freedom pure and simple.

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TLDR: Other countries trade policies and antitrust aren't the problem, it's our city, county, state, and federal burdens and welfare states that are killing American manufacturing. Tariffs don't fix that.
 
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It's not globalism, it's capitalism. Look at it this way ...

Imagine you come from nothing. You work your àss off and scratch together enough coin to start your own business or buy an existing one. Should you sacrifice your profitability to try and make products in the US where the city, county, state, and federal government drop layers upon layers of regulatory bullshìt on your doorstep and create mounds of monthly, quarterly, and annual paperwork for you to try to keep up with.

Then you have to go build a facility which will require an unbelievable amount of DEQ reports and and red tape to get approval on. Then you'll have to build a building to some ridiculous code and make it look a certain way because the local Mayor got an ordinance in saying every building should be made of the same shìt colored brick. Meanwhile, there will be a group of "concerned citizens" fighting you every step of way because your 17ing up something they care deeply about like the migratory path of the white winged eastern mosquito hawk.

After all of that, you get the privilege of trying to hire the American worker. The fat, lazy, entitled, a holes that aren't actually gainfully employed these days. They'll work for 6-8 months and jump right back on that unemployment gravy train you snatched them up from. They want Fridays off now. They want you to pay for their skyrocketing insurance costs. They'll want you to pat them on the head and run their tummies telling them how great they are for at best mediocre work in most cases. They'll likely find some kind of union to jump in with overtime.

17 that. Stuff will get expensive as 17 and be nowhere near the quality we image with American made these days.



The US is at full effective work capacity. We don't have the hardworking blue collar workforce that built this country from the 1880's to 1980's. We have some of those people and they're all working. If I build a new factory I either have to steal them and force existing businesses to hire the pieces of shìt or I have to hire the pieces of shìt. But either way, a business that relies on pieces of shìt employees is going to fail.


So rather than using tariffs to fix our problems how about this. Get these lazy mfers off unemployment, social security, and whatever other government teat they suckle from... Cut federal funding to every city, state, and county that doesn't eliminate 75% of the bullshìt red tape they have put in the books over the last 30 years. Fix our insurance system. Fix the public school system to quit codelling these 17ing kids and giving them grades just to move them along.

The biggest reason shìt is not made in the US anymore is other countries have hardworking blue collar motherf17ers that either work or starve to death. We have a bunch of candy àss pencil pushers that rely on the welfare state and support the regulation that crush the entrepreneurial spirit that built this country.


So you say it's the globalists and I say it's the gubmentists. Big government is the enemy of American manufacturing. Global trade is the only option for many US industries because the gubmentists have forced their hand. The solution is not to add a tariff, but to fix the root cause. Tariffs are and always have been a liberals solution to capitalism... Capitalism is economic freedom pure and simple.

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Are you trying to kill the squad? If you’re going to post something where Reagan disagrees with Trump, they’ll explode trying to pick a side.
 

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In other economic news looks like eggs prices at the local Krogers has gone down to $3.39 for the jumbo Grade A.
I think they're going back up soon. My food vendor was bìtching yesterday something about Salmonella. Might just be a Western US thing though. I don't buy eggs luckily.
 
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It's not globalism, it's capitalism. Look at it this way ...

Imagine you come from nothing. You work your àss off and scratch together enough coin to start your own business or buy an existing one. Should you sacrifice your profitability to try and make products in the US where the city, county, state, and federal government drop layers upon layers of regulatory bullshìt on your doorstep and create mounds of monthly, quarterly, and annual paperwork for you to try to keep up with.

Then you have to go build a facility which will require an unbelievable amount of DEQ reports and and red tape to get approval on. Then you'll have to build a building to some ridiculous code and make it look a certain way because the local Mayor got an ordinance in saying every building should be made of the same shìt colored brick. Meanwhile, there will be a group of "concerned citizens" fighting you every step of way because your 17ing up something they care deeply about like the migratory path of the white winged eastern mosquito hawk.

After all of that, you get the privilege of trying to hire the American worker. The fat, lazy, entitled, a holes that aren't actually gainfully employed these days. They'll work for 6-8 months and jump right back on that unemployment gravy train you snatched them up from. They want Fridays off now. They want you to pay for their skyrocketing insurance costs. They'll want you to pat them on the head and run their tummies telling them how great they are for at best mediocre work in most cases. They'll likely find some kind of union to jump in with overtime.

17 that. Stuff will get expensive as 17 and be nowhere near the quality we image with American made these days.



The US is at full effective work capacity. We don't have the hardworking blue collar workforce that built this country from the 1880's to 1980's. We have some of those people and they're all working. If I build a new factory I either have to steal them and force existing businesses to hire the pieces of shìt or I have to hire the pieces of shìt. But either way, a business that relies on pieces of shìt employees is going to fail.


So rather than using tariffs to fix our problems how about this. Get these lazy mfers off unemployment, social security, and whatever other government teat they suckle from... Cut federal funding to every city, state, and county that doesn't eliminate 75% of the bullshìt red tape they have put in the books over the last 30 years. Fix our insurance system. Fix the public school system to quit codelling these 17ing kids and giving them grades just to move them along.

The biggest reason shìt is not made in the US anymore is other countries have hardworking blue collar motherf17ers that either work or starve to death. We have a bunch of candy àss pencil pushers that rely on the welfare state and support the regulation that crush the entrepreneurial spirit that built this country.


So you say it's the globalists and I say it's the gubmentists. Big government is the enemy of American manufacturing. Global trade is the only option for many US industries because the gubmentists have forced their hand. The solution is not to add a tariff, but to fix the root cause. Tariffs are and always have been a liberals solution to capitalism... Capitalism is economic freedom pure and simple.

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TLDR: Other countries trade policies and antitrust aren't the problem, it's our city, county, state, and federal burdens and welfare states that are killing American manufacturing. Tariffs don't fix that.
I disagree here and there with this post but at the bottom line I think we agree: the biggest threat we face individually and as a country is the man/nation in the mirror
 

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you advocate for more government intervention to restrict our freedom to buy the products we want, from suppliers we want, at a price we want…
Nope. I know this is really out of the box thinking, but what if we could REDUCE regulations and government intervention in the US to make products easier and cheaper to manufacture here? The leftists here are the ones who overregulate so as to drive up the cost.

Or heck, since the commies are okay with child labor, let's start putting all these American 6 year olds to work. As long as it makes the products you want cheaper ya know. It apparently works in China, so why not.
 

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It's not globalism, it's capitalism. Look at it this way ...

Imagine you come from nothing. You work your àss off and scratch together enough coin to start your own business or buy an existing one. Should you sacrifice your profitability to try and make products in the US where the city, county, state, and federal government drop layers upon layers of regulatory bullshìt on your doorstep and create mounds of monthly, quarterly, and annual paperwork for you to try to keep up with.

Then you have to go build a facility which will require an unbelievable amount of DEQ reports and and red tape to get approval on. Then you'll have to build a building to some ridiculous code and make it look a certain way because the local Mayor got an ordinance in saying every building should be made of the same shìt colored brick. Meanwhile, there will be a group of "concerned citizens" fighting you every step of way because your 17ing up something they care deeply about like the migratory path of the white winged eastern mosquito hawk.

After all of that, you get the privilege of trying to hire the American worker. The fat, lazy, entitled, a holes that aren't actually gainfully employed these days. They'll work for 6-8 months and jump right back on that unemployment gravy train you snatched them up from. They want Fridays off now. They want you to pay for their skyrocketing insurance costs. They'll want you to pat them on the head and run their tummies telling them how great they are for at best mediocre work in most cases. They'll likely find some kind of union to jump in with overtime.

17 that. Stuff will get expensive as 17 and be nowhere near the quality we image with American made these days.



The US is at full effective work capacity. We don't have the hardworking blue collar workforce that built this country from the 1880's to 1980's. We have some of those people and they're all working. If I build a new factory I either have to steal them and force existing businesses to hire the pieces of shìt or I have to hire the pieces of shìt. But either way, a business that relies on pieces of shìt employees is going to fail.


So rather than using tariffs to fix our problems how about this. Get these lazy mfers off unemployment, social security, and whatever other government teat they suckle from... Cut federal funding to every city, state, and county that doesn't eliminate 75% of the bullshìt red tape they have put in the books over the last 30 years. Fix our insurance system. Fix the public school system to quit codelling these 17ing kids and giving them grades just to move them along.

The biggest reason shìt is not made in the US anymore is other countries have hardworking blue collar motherf17ers that either work or starve to death. We have a bunch of candy àss pencil pushers that rely on the welfare state and support the regulation that crush the entrepreneurial spirit that built this country.


So you say it's the globalists and I say it's the gubmentists. Big government is the enemy of American manufacturing. Global trade is the only option for many US industries because the gubmentists have forced their hand. The solution is not to add a tariff, but to fix the root cause. Tariffs are and always have been a liberals solution to capitalism... Capitalism is economic freedom pure and simple.

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TLDR: Other countries trade policies and antitrust aren't the problem, it's our city, county, state, and federal burdens and welfare states that are killing American manufacturing. Tariffs don't fix that.
Yep entire system is broke top down domestically. Welfare has some bleeding heart good intents but mostly is a bribe to distract the poor from revolting against the wealthy.

I don't know where "balance" is but real equilibrium in a healthy society to me has something that more resembles a bell curve on the wealth classes. That requires poor folks conceding they are going to be poor when they don't try or aren't able (moral societies help these people). That also requires asset owners to concede some margin to the people that do the work. If I'm a wealthy asset owner, sure I'd like my investments to return something that allows me to buy a 100ft yacht when a stabler long term system would have me sharing more return with the laborers and I buy a 60ft instead. I'm still rich and they have better wages to take care of themselves.

Instead, we are cool with asset owners retaining every cent of margin at the expense of regular hard working people and expect the government to subsidize poor people by taxing regular hard working people more. And we sit here and ask why people don't want to work hard? Getting the squeeze by both your employer and your government isn't the best motivator.

How do you promote stability? Hell if I know? Government can try but it fails. Free markets and hope the wealthy don't monopolize and hoard? In this country? 17 that - we want our 100 foot yachts. Not my fault you weren't born with money. Pick better parents and zip codes next time around.

And we haven't event gotten close to the "AI revolution". What happens when what's left of the middle class is outsourced to automated process?
 

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Are you trying to kill the squad? If you’re going to post something where Reagan disagrees with Trump, they’ll explode trying to pick a side.
TDS works for both tribes. Trump Derangement Syndrome and Trump D**k Suckers. There's plenty of Reagan-loving self-described Republicans (not no damn RINO!) out there that also love them some Trump-supported big government protectionist populism.
 

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TDS works for both tribes. Trump Derangement Syndrome and Trump D**k Suckers. There's plenty of Reagan-loving self-described Republicans (not no damn RINO!) out there that also love them some Trump-supported big government protectionist populism.
There’s also people who like Trump because he knows his own name and received some delegates at his party’s convention.
 
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There’s also people who like Trump because he knows his own name and received some delegates at his party’s convention.
Not a support of Biden's health or mental acuity in any way - he was objectively feeble and embarrassing up there. That said, Trump now makes the 2nd president in a row where his health problems are being ignored/covered up by his staff/supporters. Guy also can't form coherent sentences, has trouble with stairs/walking/standing normally, shows signs of dementia, may currently be wearing diapers/catheter, looks sweaty and messy, and on. One of these parties has to step up and stop electing and supporting ancient unhealthy men while also pointing the finger at the other party for doing the same damn thing.
 

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It's not globalism, it's capitalism. Look at it this way ...

Imagine you come from nothing. You work your àss off and scratch together enough coin to start your own business or buy an existing one. Should you sacrifice your profitability to try and make products in the US where the city, county, state, and federal government drop layers upon layers of regulatory bullshìt on your doorstep and create mounds of monthly, quarterly, and annual paperwork for you to try to keep up with.

Then you have to go build a facility which will require an unbelievable amount of DEQ reports and and red tape to get approval on. Then you'll have to build a building to some ridiculous code and make it look a certain way because the local Mayor got an ordinance in saying every building should be made of the same shìt colored brick. Meanwhile, there will be a group of "concerned citizens" fighting you every step of way because your 17ing up something they care deeply about like the migratory path of the white winged eastern mosquito hawk.

After all of that, you get the privilege of trying to hire the American worker. The fat, lazy, entitled, a holes that aren't actually gainfully employed these days. They'll work for 6-8 months and jump right back on that unemployment gravy train you snatched them up from. They want Fridays off now. They want you to pay for their skyrocketing insurance costs. They'll want you to pat them on the head and run their tummies telling them how great they are for at best mediocre work in most cases. They'll likely find some kind of union to jump in with overtime.

17 that. Stuff will get expensive as 17 and be nowhere near the quality we image with American made these days.



The US is at full effective work capacity. We don't have the hardworking blue collar workforce that built this country from the 1880's to 1980's. We have some of those people and they're all working. If I build a new factory I either have to steal them and force existing businesses to hire the pieces of shìt or I have to hire the pieces of shìt. But either way, a business that relies on pieces of shìt employees is going to fail.


So rather than using tariffs to fix our problems how about this. Get these lazy mfers off unemployment, social security, and whatever other government teat they suckle from... Cut federal funding to every city, state, and county that doesn't eliminate 75% of the bullshìt red tape they have put in the books over the last 30 years. Fix our insurance system. Fix the public school system to quit codelling these 17ing kids and giving them grades just to move them along.

The biggest reason shìt is not made in the US anymore is other countries have hardworking blue collar motherf17ers that either work or starve to death. We have a bunch of candy àss pencil pushers that rely on the welfare state and support the regulation that crush the entrepreneurial spirit that built this country.


So you say it's the globalists and I say it's the gubmentists. Big government is the enemy of American manufacturing. Global trade is the only option for many US industries because the gubmentists have forced their hand. The solution is not to add a tariff, but to fix the root cause. Tariffs are and always have been a liberals solution to capitalism... Capitalism is economic freedom pure and simple.

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TLDR: Other countries trade policies and antitrust aren't the problem, it's our city, county, state, and federal burdens and welfare states that are killing American manufacturing. Tariffs don't fix that.
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It's always about the bottom line. Nobody ever said it wasnt. Every business is about the bottom line.
True, it has always been about the bottom line but the game has rules and those rules must be followed so all the players benefit not just a select few. What Teddy Roosevelt said over a 100 years age still holds true today, "All business must be conducted under the law, and all business men, big or little, must act justly."
 
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He looks like he’s jacking off two dudes simultaneously.
Bro….. seriously…. Come on…. No need for that here…


Besides, everyone knows when jerking two dudes at once you go base to tip simultaneously so your arms don’t get as tired.
 
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It's not globalism, it's capitalism. Look at it this way ...

Imagine you come from nothing. You work your àss off and scratch together enough coin to start your own business or buy an existing one. Should you sacrifice your profitability to try and make products in the US where the city, county, state, and federal government drop layers upon layers of regulatory bullshìt on your doorstep and create mounds of monthly, quarterly, and annual paperwork for you to try to keep up with.

Then you have to go build a facility which will require an unbelievable amount of DEQ reports and and red tape to get approval on. Then you'll have to build a building to some ridiculous code and make it look a certain way because the local Mayor got an ordinance in saying every building should be made of the same shìt colored brick. Meanwhile, there will be a group of "concerned citizens" fighting you every step of way because your 17ing up something they care deeply about like the migratory path of the white winged eastern mosquito hawk.

After all of that, you get the privilege of trying to hire the American worker. The fat, lazy, entitled, a holes that aren't actually gainfully employed these days. They'll work for 6-8 months and jump right back on that unemployment gravy train you snatched them up from. They want Fridays off now. They want you to pay for their skyrocketing insurance costs. They'll want you to pat them on the head and run their tummies telling them how great they are for at best mediocre work in most cases. They'll likely find some kind of union to jump in with overtime.

17 that. Stuff will get expensive as 17 and be nowhere near the quality we image with American made these days.



The US is at full effective work capacity. We don't have the hardworking blue collar workforce that built this country from the 1880's to 1980's. We have some of those people and they're all working. If I build a new factory I either have to steal them and force existing businesses to hire the pieces of shìt or I have to hire the pieces of shìt. But either way, a business that relies on pieces of shìt employees is going to fail.


So rather than using tariffs to fix our problems how about this. Get these lazy mfers off unemployment, social security, and whatever other government teat they suckle from... Cut federal funding to every city, state, and county that doesn't eliminate 75% of the bullshìt red tape they have put in the books over the last 30 years. Fix our insurance system. Fix the public school system to quit codelling these 17ing kids and giving them grades just to move them along.

The biggest reason shìt is not made in the US anymore is other countries have hardworking blue collar motherf17ers that either work or starve to death. We have a bunch of candy àss pencil pushers that rely on the welfare state and support the regulation that crush the entrepreneurial spirit that built this country.


So you say it's the globalists and I say it's the gubmentists. Big government is the enemy of American manufacturing. Global trade is the only option for many US industries because the gubmentists have forced their hand. The solution is not to add a tariff, but to fix the root cause. Tariffs are and always have been a liberals solution to capitalism... Capitalism is economic freedom pure and simple.

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TLDR: Other countries trade policies and antitrust aren't the problem, it's our city, county, state, and federal burdens and welfare states that are killing American manufacturing. Tariffs don't fix that.
I have been an advocate for a long time that everyone needs to dig ditches at some point in their early life to appreciate the job you have. I say it all the time at work. My coworkers roll their eyes but some of them get it. The best workers we have cut their teeth on landscaping, food service or some other tough job, no matter the generation. For context I work in tech and a majority of my coworkers are millennials or gen Z.
 
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