Bama is so much better coached than we are...

Coach34

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whether its the way they block out on defense or how they break down a zone to get a paint shot- easy to see why they are 11-3

and they will be even better next year with their top 3 scorers returning
 

Coach34

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whether its the way they block out on defense or how they break down a zone to get a paint shot- easy to see why they are 11-3

and they will be even better next year with their top 3 scorers returning
 

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Alabama has pretty much been on par with most of Stansbury's years here. Terrible OOC losses. Good in conference record. Wonder if they can achieve the end all be all Sweet 16
 

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a team like Bama isn't built for tourney play, they're consistent and well coached but not the type of team to run through a tourney.
 

fieldman

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They get great play down low and great play from their point guard. Decent production from their bench players. I thought that was the recipe for post season success.
 

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or for that matter, the SEC overall, was irrelevant - and in fact, not even a valid claim of success - in determining how good a coach someone is. Or does that standard only apply to Stansbury?
 

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MSUCostanza said:
or for that matter, the SEC overall, was irrelevant - and in fact, not even a valid claim of success - in determining how good a coach someone is. Or does that standard only apply to Stansbury?

is irrelevant- but it doesnt give you a lifetime pass either.
 

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and lots of pressure. But if the other team is good enough to beat the press and pressure, they become average. IF they make the NCAA's, they will not go far.
 

dawgstudent

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Bama is exactly a Rick Stansbury team. Struggle early season - have a
decent conf record and have to do work in the SEC Tournament to get to
the tournament.

And I will go ahead and give Coach's reply - "It's only year 2".

And we will have our top two scorers returning plus a transfer that should easily replace Kodi.
 

drunkernhelldawg

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It's like you had a touch of insomnia and said, "What the heck; take another shot at Stans . . ." Have your coffee first next time.
 

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fieldman said:
Alabama has pretty much been on par with most of Stansbury's years here. Terrible OOC losses. Good in conference record. Wonder if they can achieve the end all be all Sweet 16

But there's one HUGE difference. Alabama is overachieving, while all of Stansbury's teams were underachieving. Coach34 knows what he's talking about and I agree with him. Blocking out and breaking down a zone for a shot in the paint. If we could only block out on defense, there's no telling how many more wins we would have. It's not hard to coach that at all and we can't seem to do it. It's sad. Why can't y'all see that.
 

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Hell his team was out scored last night by 27 points in the second half.</p>
 

dawgstudent

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when there are expectations. Bama has had a good season but they are going to have to make some noise now in the SEC Tournament to get to the NCAA's.

The argument isn't who has underachieved or overachieved. The argument is that Coach is saying what a great job Grant has done when in reality, it's a Rick Stansbury season at its finest.
 

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dawgstudent said:
when there are expectations. Bama has had a good season but they are going to have to make some noise now in the SEC Tournament to get to the NCAA's.

The argument isn't who has underachieved or overachieved. The argument is that Coach is saying what a great job Grant has done when in reality, it's a Rick Stansbury season at its finest.

you are comparing Grant's 2nd season to The Recruiters 5th,8th, 10th....etc...In The Recruiters 2nd season, he had a losing record. Bama is clearly progressing.

And what I was talking about in my original post, is how good they are fundamentally. You can clearly see that they run an offense and know exactly what they are trying to do.

They had some losses early in the season due to some injuries, suspensions, and their PG being a true freshman- but he really brought his team along well. Where as The Recruiter could not. And yes, if we have Bost, Sidney, and Moultrie on the court next season we will have some talent too- but if I have to choose now- I'll take the team that is disciplined and plays with fundamentals as the favorite to win it.
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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If this Alabama team was coached by Stans all we would hear is, "yeah they've been decent this year, but you see what happened when they played an tourney-calibre team in Florida. More typical Stans."
 

dawgstudent

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welcome to MSU basketball 2010-2011. I'm not denying we sucked this year but you are giving Grant a pass and the exact same thing happened to our team. We were without our best player for the whole OOC season and our 2nd best player for 9 games. And if it was up to me, I wouldn't bring Stansbury back but it's hilarious to me that your standards for Stansbury are far superior than that of the balls of the coaches you coddle.

They had some losses early in the season due to some injuries, <span style="font-weight: bold;">suspensions</span>, and their PG being a true freshman
And in Stansbury's first season - we were on the bubble for the NCAA's.
 

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Coach34

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The Recruiter- transfers and chaos in the offseason, two best players suspended, early season losses to bad teams, team fight on national TV, a joke to the national media, losses to bad teams late in the season. 15-13 record

Grant- injuries and suspensions early on, Freshman PG to teach, bad early season losses, brings team together to make a run for the SEC title, double-digit SEC wins, 19-10...possible Coach of the Year in the SEC

How is The Recruiter being held to a higher standard?
 

dawgstudent

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no doubt if you compare this year - they aren't the same. But Bama is what State has been the past few years - head scratching OOC losses, good conference results, need to make noise in SEC Tourney. And I would like to congratulate Coach Grant with winning COY even if he doesn't go to the tournament.

I'll let you have the last comment.
 

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dawgstudent said:
no doubt if you compare this year - they aren't the same. But Bama is what State has been the past few years - head scratching OOC losses, good conference results, need to make noise in SEC Tourney. And I would like to congratulate Coach Grant with winning COY even if he doesn't go to the tournament.

I'll let you have the last comment.

"<span class="post-title">Because the results are exactly the same"

"no doubt if you compare this year - they aren't the same."

ok

I see what you are saying, but I am giving Grant credit for the improvement the program is making under him. There is a difference in being in your 2nd season in a program and your 10th, 12th, 13th as The Recruiter is. Bama is improved under Grant. With The Recruiter- we just keep getting more of the same chaos, weak scheduling, and missed opportunities
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MadDawg.sixpack

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he will never have a disappointing season. It will be 12-4 or better records and the sweet 16 every year. Gotcha.
 

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fieldman said:
Alabama has pretty much been on par with most of Stansbury's years here. Terrible OOC losses. Good in conference record. Wonder if they can achieve the end all be all Sweet 16
1. No one is saying the Sweet 16 is the "end all be all." I think people are saying that after 13 years, maybe, just maybe Stansbury should have made it just one time. <div>
</div><div>2. I'm firmly convinced that Stansbury needs to go, but the problem is that Coach34 is such a huge douche it's actually turning the tide on this board. I find myself more sympathetic toward Stans just because I've grown weary of C34's incessant douchery. The dream scenario, for me, would be if Stans & Coach would leave...</div><div>
</div><div>3. It's quite likely that Bama wins the West and doesn't make the tournament or needs to win the SEC Tourney to make the NCAA. That is the epitome of a Stans-coached team.</div><div>
</div><div>4. But it's also obvious that Bama's team has been better coached than our own this year.</div>