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These are some notes taken from Day 2 of the South Senior Bowl practice and this write up is about an WV Alumn...

You can tell that West Virginia quarterback Jarrett Brown had poor coaching and the system he played in didn't prepare him for the league at all. His footwork is sloppy, but I'm willing to bet there is a team in the league that sees some real potential in him and won't be afraid to draft him in the fourth or fifth rounds.

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These are some notes taken from Day 2 of the South Senior Bowl practice and this write up is about an WV Alumn...

You can tell that West Virginia quarterback Jarrett Brown had poor coaching and the system he played in didn't prepare him for the league at all. His footwork is sloppy, but I'm willing to bet there is a team in the league that sees some real potential in him and won't be afraid to draft him in the fourth or fifth rounds.

Just thought I would share....</p>

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How he panned out in the NFL has nothing to do with Mullen.You could saythe coaches in San Fran do a poor job in developing their QBs. Smith was out of Mullen's hands once he got their. For him to be a top 5 pick that means the NFL execs thought he possessed all the tools to be a great NFL QB thanks to the coaching he received at Utah.

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Alex Smith finished the second half of this season as the starter. He has had a new off coord and new system to learn every year he has been in the league. Not his fault.
 
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but Mike Leach's first few QBs got more attention than they should have, Kingsbury and Symons both being drafted in late rounds. Eventually, the NFL caught on to the fact that his QBs were system QBs, not really that prepared for the NFL, and the all-time NCAA leader in passing yardage, Graham Harrell, went undrafted last year.

Smith was Meyer's first real QB prospect. Time will tell whether Meyer is producing system QBs or NFL ready QBs, but if his QBs don't do well once in the NFL, then QBs from his system and Mullen's system by association, will fall further and further down the draft boards despite what they do in college.

That's why I think it's big for Meyer and Mullen by association to have Tebow get drafted fairly high and then subsequently do well. And Meyer will need Brantley to do the same. Eventually it will get tougher to bring in QBs if you don't produce guys that get drafted high AND do well once they get there.

The flip side of that is Pete Carroll, though he's no longer at SC. His system produced Carson Palmer, Matt Cassell, Matt Leinhart, and Mark Sanchez in a short period. All were not only high draft picks, but they've had pretty good success as a group in comparison to most QBs. It's easy to recruit QBs when you can point to that group and show them as products of your system, especially when you can show a guy who never started for you but still went on to a solid NFL career.

After saying all that, to be fair, I'll say the same can be said for Nutt when it comes to QB recruiting. It's not going to be easy for him to go in and land QB talent, because his list of QB products is not good.
 
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But just like I think Tebow will show, the Meyer offense does not easily translate to the NFL.

Mullen is a solid coach, and I think the offense that he runs is a great fit for MSU, now does that mean it is a good offense for developing a QB for the NFL? I personally don't think so.

Watching Tebow fumble snaps, and looking uncomfortable in the pocket only gives people more ammo.

All I know is that Tebow is the absolute perfect QB for the offense that Meyer/Mullen runs. Could not recruit a better one.Despite how perfect he is for that offense, he is not a guaranteed first round pick. If he does get picked in the first round it will because of his leadership qualities, not his mechanics or how he can read a defense. He ran an option offense, and that is what Mullen runs, an option offense out of the shotgun. How many option QB's have been successful in the NFL?

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a college based system (the spread) and a pro system (what Carroll and USC ran).

Carroll has produced NFL ready QBs, because they dont rely on their athletism like they do in the spread. Some guys are great college QBs, some guys are great NFL QBs.

It's unfortunate that a kid like Brunetti can't quite see that he isn't a the prototypical NFL qb, and if thats what NFL scouts are saying about his future coaching staff's coaching, then he could have some more evaluating to do.
 
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Todd McShay was on ESPN Radio yesterday talking about Tebow's struggles at Senior Bowl practice. He said aside from Tebow's looping release that everybody is so critical of, his footwork was not good and he didn't look good at all reading coverages. Said that beside the release, all that other stuff could be fixed. Said that unless a team drafts him and wants to use him in some kind of wildcat/option package 6 or 7 times a game, it's going to take several years basically for him to learn the quarterback position.

He then went on to say that Alex Smith was one of the smartest quarterbacks coming out of college that he's even encountered in the draft, but that it's pretty much taken him 6 years to "unlearn" everything in that Urban Meyer system and learn how to be a pro quarterback.
 
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to be successful. He likely wouldn't have gone first round and made that money otherwise.

But I wouldn't expect a limited dicklick like you to contemplate that angle - only the one that spins Mullen in a negative light.
 
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If Tebow would have gone to Bama or some other school in lieu of Florida he would probably still have the same mechanical issues. I would suggest the only thing he would have down pat is under-center snaps.
 
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he has just out-athleted everyone there and in college. The Meyer/Mullen system just made the most of the things he did well - last time I checked, that shouldn't be used against acoach. If it is, then only by idiots.

Tebow wasnever going to be Tom Bradyesque. Had he gone to Alabama, Shula/Saban probably wouldn't have gotten the best out of him, but sooner or later they would have probably gone to a run based spread for that reason. I have my doubts that QB Coach/god David Cutcliffe himself could have turned Tebow into a successful drop back guy - and he'd be a moron to try. Coach the players talents up, not his flaws. Co-signed: Sylvester Croom/Omarr Conner.
 
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GBryne4Heisman said:
a college based system (the spread) and a pro system (what Carroll and USC ran).

Carroll has produced NFL ready QBs, because they dont rely on their athletism like they do in the spread. Some guys are great college QBs, some guys are great NFL QBs.

It's unfortunate that a kid like Brunetti can't quite see that he isn't a the prototypical NFL qb, and if thats what NFL scouts are saying about his future coaching staff's coaching, then he could have some more evaluating to do.
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