Baseball RPI / postseason (long)

[HuntDawg]

Down to 27 in RPI with 7 quad 1 opps in front of them. Going 3-1 next week feels like they would be firmly in the conversation. Admittedly a big if

We need to get very high. All the wins we can get. The una game and mizzou series will drop our rpi even if we go 4-0

 

[patdog]

Or you could take the swac schools out. Play a real team in a weekend series on the road or in a neutral site prior to the conference schedule…

then it doesn’t matter if you win or lose those games… that alone raises the rpi 10-15 notches.

This is the answer. Change about 6 games in the OOC schedule & we’d have a better RPI even if we lost 4 of them.

 

[Perd Hapley]

what that schedule did was force us to win 17-18 sec games to even be considered for a host spot

Which is what you pretty much have to do anyway in most cases. That’s the point.

 

[Perd Hapley]

It's the noncon record, not the noncon schedule. Win early games we should have and our RPI is fine.

Also correct. Either win the two against APSU, or just don’t play the MSM series and play someone like La Tech or Western Kentucky instead. Either of those paints a rosier picture for us.

 

[HuntDawg]

Which is what you pretty much have to do anyway in most cases. That’s the point.

No. Most 17-18 win sec teams are national seeds, not hoping or being a borderline host.

our non conference schedule is atrocious and will have us 1 to 2 steps behind where we should be had we just played a normal schedule.

we should be a lock to host at this point hoping to play into a national seed. Instead we are hoping to host with no shot at being a national seed…. All due to the non conference schedule.

 

[Perd Hapley]

No. Most 17-18 win sec teams are national seeds, not hoping or being a borderline host.

How about you tell us the last time a 17 or 18 win SEC team was a national seed. Should be pretty easy, since it happens most of the time….

 

[HuntDawg]

How about you tell us the last time a 17 or 18 win SEC team was a national seed. Should be pretty easy, since it happens most of the time….

Georgia
Ole Miss
Arkansas

All made it has national seeds in 2018.


Oklahoma State was a national seed that finished 4th in their own conference after tie breakers in 2022. The conference champ was not.

 

[HuntDawg]

How about you tell us the last time a 17 or 18 win SEC team was a national seed. Should be pretty easy, since it happens most of the time….

in 2022
UT finished 25-5
TxAM 19-11
Ark 18-12
LSU 17-13
Auburn 16-13
Florida 15-15
Georgia 15-15

UT, TxAm National seeds... Florida and Auburn (6 RPI) were the other host sites.... yes over both LSU (14) and Arkansas (17) due to RPI.

Again i say.... RPI is king..... This is the scenario we are battlign right now. Georiga or South Carolina could be a top 10 RPI team with 15 wins. We could be a 24 RPI team with 18 wins. UGA would get the host spot.

 

[HuntDawg]

in 2022
UT finished 25-5
TxAM 19-11
Ark 18-12
LSU 17-13
Auburn 16-13
Florida 15-15
Georgia 15-15

UT, TxAm National seeds... Florida and Auburn (6 RPI) were the other host sites.... yes over both LSU (14) and Arkansas (17) due to RPI.

Again i say.... RPI is king..... This is the scenario we are battlign right now. Georiga or South Carolina could be a top 10 RPI team with 15 wins. We could be a 24 RPI team with 18 wins. UGA would get the host spot.

To go a step farther than that:

In this very year: LSU BEAT florida 2 of 3 on the field... didnt matter.. RPI still TRUMPED.
In this very year: Arkansas BEAT auburn 2 of 3 on the field... didnt matter... RPI still TRUMPED

Again this proofs very simple:
Conference standings dont trump RPI if there is a discrepancy.
Head to head matters very little

So us taking 2 of 3 from UGA isnt going to matter very much.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Georgia
Ole Miss
Arkansas

All made it has national seeds in 2018.


Oklahoma State was a national seed that finished 4th in their own conference after tie breakers in 2022. The conference champ was not.

So, you need any help moving that goal post? Looks heavy.

It’s been 6 years since an SEC team with less than 19 conference wins was a national seed. At least the last 5 teams to win 17 or 18 have not been national seeds. Yet you think it still happens “most of the time”.

TERRRRD TRapppLLEYY signing off.

 

[HuntDawg]

So, you need any help moving that goal post? Looks heavy.

It’s been 6 years since an SEC team with less than 19 conference wins was a national seed. At least the last 5 teams to win 17 or 18 have not been national seeds. Yet you think it still happens “most of the time”.

TERRRRD TRapppLLEYY signing off.

That’s not moving goal posts. It’s been 5 years. One was done Covid year without a post season.

it has happened but you need a strong ooc schedule. We don’t have that. And it will hinder us like my other posted showed. I should have said national seed conversation is what 17-18 wins gets you.

 

[The Cooterpoot]

Or you could take the swac schools out. Play a real team in a weekend series on the road or in a neutral site prior to the conference schedule…

then it doesn’t matter if you win or lose those games… that alone raises the rpi 10-15 notches.

Exactly! It's time to stop playing SWAC schools. At least cut it way back. One JSU game should be it if we just think we have to. Of course, we used to play William Carey back in the day.