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ShaNaNa

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"Due to MSU dealing with ongoing and time-consuming eligibility issues
involving non-football matters in the winter and spring of 2010, the
specific SEC request went unfulfilled. Some additional information was
provided to the SEC during July of 2010. Once the NCAA enforcement
staff became involved, Mississippi State University cooperated fully
with its investigation."

Makes me think the SEC was prepared to hide this whole debacle until the NCAA got involved. I truly believe that if Alabama was undefeated and Auburn had two losses, this would have never come out. Someone in the SEC office leaked this out and we look like the rats. MSU followed their compliance obligations fully expecting for this to be swept away by Slive, hence the reason why we did not meet with SEC officials. I feel pretty certain that Mullen will not be hired away by any other SEC schools because this whole ordeal is gonna fall on him. Not that it should because I do not believe we turned this into the SEC expecting it to go anywhere, but he is now on the cross hairs and that is the nature of the beast.
 
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This Comment:

"Due to MSU dealing with ongoing and time-consuming eligibility issues
involving non-football matters in the winter and spring of 2010, the
specific SEC request went unfulfilled. Some additional information was
provided to the SEC during July of 2010. Once the NCAA enforcement
staff became involved, Mississippi State University cooperated fully
with its investigation."

Makes me think the SEC was prepared to hide this whole debacle until the NCAA got involved. I truly believe that if Alabama was undefeated and Auburn had two losses, this would have never come out. Someone in the SEC office leaked this out and we look like the rats. MSU followed their compliance obligations fully expecting for this to be swept away by Slive, hence the reason why we did not meet with SEC officials. I feel pretty certain that Mullen will not be hired away by any other SEC schools because this whole ordeal is gonna fall on him. Not that it should because I do not believe we turned this into the SEC expecting it to go anywhere, but he is now on the cross hairs and that is the nature of the beast.
 
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the SEC was getting a lot of grief over why they sat on this for so long and they forced us to admit that we delayed the process to take the heat off them.
 
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But I believe that it was the original intention of the SEC and Slive to let this matter die until the NCAA caught wind of it. Slive has out done Harry Houdini with how he has made allegations disappear under his tenor. I pretty sure I saw where he gets a nice bonus when no SEC school is on probabtion.
 
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Slive sat on the allegations in hopes it wouldn't matter. Last January nobody could see AU's/Cam's wild success and Heisman run transpiring.
 
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I think that press release was State falling on a grenade for Slive and the SEC. The only problem I have is coming up with a motive for doing it because it's obvious Slive and the SEC wouldn't do the same for us. If we did do this for Slive I hope we got something in return. If it were me it'd be simple, "Lay off our 17n cowbells and we'll take some of this heat off your back".
 
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And that Bamais the driving force behind the recruiting violation, and that Florida is responsible for the cheating getting leaked. </p>
 
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Isn't it a little hypocritical to say the SEC office was dragging their feet in an attempt to cover it up when MSU didn't respond to their request for 6 months.

Considering that you waited 6 months until the NCAA got involved to meet the SEC's request its hard to believe the SEC is fullyto blame.
 
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I want to see Auburn go down just as much as the next guy, but it looks like MSU has admitted that it drug its feet in getting the info to the SEC.<div>
</div><div>The party line over here is that Mike Slive tried to cover all this up. I don't understand where that's coming from.</div>
 
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mstatefan88

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Kind of hard to respond to the SEC withthat when you are already involved in trying to gather and find out information on another person and report to the NCAA. I can guarantee reporting our findings to the NCAA are a hell of a lot more important than reporting to the SEC.
 
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You really believe they were tied up for six months and could notrespond due to Bost and Sidney? Really? 6 months and not as much as a phone call?

Either way, I'm just saying you can't blame someone else for not doing more when you didn't bother to respond to their request for info for 6 months.

It doesn't appear that you reported anything to the NCAA until the heat got turned up by the media who had gotten word of this situation.

Bonds story and MSU's story has changed a few times now. First Bond talked to Rogers. Then Bonds said he talked to intermediaries only.Nowthe media reports that MSU failed to report the alleged phone calls about paying the Newtons until now.

This **** is better than any soap opera ever created.
 
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but with maybe piecemeal info and not a detailed report. We also had an AD change going on at that time and we are a one-man department in compliance.
By the way, Bond never said he talked with Rogers. You find me the quote where HE named Rogers and I'll gladly apologize. Here is the ESPN article where THEY say it is Kenny Rogers (from sources) but it never has a quote from Bond saying it was Rogers

Here is the official statement from Bond so show me Kenny Rogers name in this.

<span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px;">“During
the 2009 football season, I was contacted by a former football
teammate, who represented to me that he was speaking for the Newton
camp. He told me that Cam Newton wanted to play at Mississippi State,
but that a specified payment would have to be made. I reported the
conversation to the Mississippi State Athletic Department. I was told
by the Athletic Department that Mississippi State would not respond to
the overture that was made to me, and that Mississippi State would
continue to recruit Cam Newton as it does any other football recruit."

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olemissbydamn said:
Bonds story and MSU's story has <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">changed a few times now</span> stayed the same all along. First Bond talked to Rogers. Then Bond<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">s</span> said he talked to intermediaries (which includes Rogers) only.Nowthe media reports that MSU failed to report the alleged phone calls about paying the Newtons until now.

<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">This **** is better than any soap opera ever created.</span> You're still a douche
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SnakePlissken said:
but with maybe piecemeal info and not a detailed report. We also had an AD change going on at that time and we are a one-man department in compliance.
By the way, Bond never said he talked with Rogers. You find me the quote where HE named Rogers and I'll gladly apologize. Here is the ESPN article where THEY say it is Kenny Rogers (from sources) but it never has a quote from Bond saying it was Rogers

Here is the official statement from Bond so show me Kenny Rogers name in this.

<span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">“During the 2009 football season, I was contacted by a former football teammate, who represented to me that he was speaking for the Newton camp. He told me that Cam Newton wanted to play at Mississippi State, but that a specified payment would have to be made. I reported the conversation to the Mississippi State Athletic Department. I was told by the Athletic Department that Mississippi State would not respond to the overture that was made to me, and that Mississippi State would continue to recruit Cam Newton as it does any other football recruit."

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You are right.

But you and I both know that Rogers is who he accused. Now that he has screwed up and subsequently lawyered up, they are using the "I didn't name Rogers angle".

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/05/sports/ncaafootball/05auburn.html?src=me
 
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olemissbydamn said:
But you and I both know that Rogers is who he accused. Now that he has screwed up and subsequently lawyered up, they are using the "I didn't name Rogers angle".

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/05/sports/ncaafootball/05auburn.html?src=me
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We both know it is Rogers because ESPN and the NYT told us it was!!!!! Bond didn't screw up anything. He had a lawyer BEFORE it went public - because ESPN told him we are running this with or without you - and that is why he released a statement.
 
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Why are you nafoomers here trying to make something out nothing? 000000000000000000000000000000000000H that right the Nutter and Mo show has not worked out quite the way it was supposed to has it?
 
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And now they are throwing us under the bus with the statements by Charles Bloom, Slive's gopher. I will say this, everybody knows how lazy Bracky is and he may have not done his job so well either. In either event, it comes down to the NCAA, not the SEC but you can bet Slive wants Auburn in that BCS title game and he has 1,000,000 reasons and if he has to discredit MSU, that is exactly the route he will take. He has done it all through his tenure, protect the powers of the league and $$$ is all he cares about. I also might think that MSU didn't want to give too much to the SEC and waited to give it to the NCAA because they know how rotten Slive is. Interesting times ahead.
 
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that all State was doing was CYA on the reporting in January and thought the whole deal would go the way all the other incidents of this nature tend to do. So when we got around to responding to the info request we fulfilled our obligations. But when Auburn started competing for the national championship and i am sure an Alabama/Florida person at the SEC office leaked the story in the hopes that what has happened, would happen. Just my humble opinion.
 
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He also never said he talked directly to Rodgers. If you had any reading comprehension you'd know that.

Let's say Mike Slive had one of his employees contact Strickland and tell him something. Strickland could rightly say he was contacted by Mike Slive and told such and such. He never said he talked directly to Slive, but rather someone speaking on behalf of Slive.

Of course, I shouldn't expect you to be able to pick up on that. I've set expectations a little too high.
 
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The question is why. It could be that we had too many irons in the fire and just didn't care that much. It could be that we really didn't think anything would be done. Or it could be that we really didn't want to get involved beyond fulfilling our obligation to report wrongdoing to the league office. Whatever the case, it sure shoots a gigantic hole in the idea that MSU is in this to take down Auburn and that we have sour grapes over Cam Newton. Were that the case, we'd have turned in specific info immediately. So much for one of Auburn's talking points.

Look, the reality is this. When Mike Slive took over he made one of his top tasks cleaning up the league. He instituted a rule whereby all SEC teams must report wrongdoing to the SEC. Everything must first go through the SEC and they determine legitimacy. This kept Auburn and Alabama from turning each other in over every single little thing that took place. Everyone knows that once the NCAA gets on campus, they will find something to hammer you over. SEC teams didn't just quit cheating when Slive came on board. What changed is that now everything was funnelled through the SEC. Who knows how many little allegations they made disappear the past few years.

MSU did what we were supposed to do. We didn't do it to get Auburn into trouble. We turned in this info because we had to. We probably didn't think anything would come of it. When the SEC requested more info, we were probably shocked. It's pretty obvious we really didn't want to get in the middle of this, but had no choice. It's also pretty obvious that the SEC didn't want to pass this on to the NCAA, but again had no choice. The reason this has taken so long is reluctance to stir things up. What do we gain from this? Nothing. We are 7-2 and facing Alabama, and the only thing people are talking about with respect to us is Cam Newton. This doesn't help us at all. It may not hurt us, but it also doesn't help us. It is a huge distraction and has brought bad PR, mostly undeserved. We did this because we had to, and it was the right thing.
 
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and she talked to your secretary who then talked to you, and you later said that I contacted you regarding a business deal, then you'd be a liar.<div>
</div><div>"<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Let's say Mike Slive had one of his employees contact Strickland and tell him something. Strickland could rightly say he was contacted by Mike Slive and told such and such. He never said he talked directly to Slive, but rather someone speaking on behalf of Slive"</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">
</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">No. No, he can not. He can say that he was contacted by the employee acting on behalf of Slive, but he cannot say that Slive said a damn thing.</span></font>
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</div><div>The only way Bond hasn't changed his story is if he was contacted by a yet unnamed former teammate who was contacted by someone else who was in contacted by Kenny Rogers. This is entirely probable, and I'm not being sarcastic.</div><div>
</div><div>Otherwise, yes, he has changed his story.</div></div>
 
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So you think when ESPN says Roger Goodell contacted so and so player and told them this or that, that Goodell himself must have personally contacted that player?

Here's a better example. All of the time it is reported that a team offered a player this contract for this much money per year, etc. That's nonsense. A representative for the team offered the player's representative, otherwise known as his agent, the contract. The agent contacts the player, and the player answers the team representative through his agent. Yet, the media reports it as if the GM or owner is talking directly to the player. Apparently they are lying according to you.

It would help if you nafoomers were able to follow simple conversation, understood how people communicate, and were able to comprehend what you read. Instead, you come on here claiming stuff that plainly isn't true.
 
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There is no difference between a prepared statement drafted by an attorney in preparation for an investigation and a summary of events in the newspaper.<div>
</div><div>Point taken. I concede. I am so ignorant. I don't know how to read. I can't tell how people talk.</div>
 
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