Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

Or is that wishful thinking? Evans said about 90% he and one other guy goes to the same school in-state, and 70% all 4 go to the same school in-state. Then he says he's closest with Channing Ward.<div>
</div><div>So is it MSU or Ole Miss at this time? You have to think it's MSU, especially with all the talk in the video about getting good coaching but needing great players.</div><div>
</div><div>Damn, if we pull those 4 plus the 2 we're fighting over with Tennessee, and then Gaines as well, you have to think this class may be one of the best ever, high school wise.</div>
 
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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

Or is that wishful thinking? Evans said about 90% he and one other guy goes to the same school in-state, and 70% all 4 go to the same school in-state. Then he says he's closest with Channing Ward.<div>
</div><div>So is it MSU or Ole Miss at this time? You have to think it's MSU, especially with all the talk in the video about getting good coaching but needing great players.</div><div>
</div><div>Damn, if we pull those 4 plus the 2 we're fighting over with Tennessee, and then Gaines as well, you have to think this class may be one of the best ever, high school wise.</div>
 

BehrDawg

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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

...please, I beg you, make it stop.
 

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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

at this point, you are wasting your time even thinking twice about these kinds of articles. Yancy hasn't written any of his "special" articles yet. Nix probably hasn't printed any pages from the 6pack yet. I was going to say Pogue hasn't started loaning his phone out yet, but he was caught on film glad handing at the dandy dozen shoot so he may have started his assigned mission a little early. I'll wait until january to start getting nervous.
 

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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

dont get your hopes up
 

RebelBruiser

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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

does that mean money didn't become a factor? Just curious, because I want to be able to claim the money factor line if we miss out on them, and I need to know if it's going to be kosher to do so.
 
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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

if you see them riding around in Range Rovers and tweeting that they just got another new ride, if the mom just got a nice $80k/yr job to do a $20k/yr job, or just any activity that any sensible person would think if "paying" a player, then yes, by all means, go ahead.
 

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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

Kinda like the rebs coming over here talking **** about posting on other people's MBs or saying we got bad info but it could be right. Cover your tracks and speak out of both sides of your mouth.
 

champ.sixpack

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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

Game, set, match....score. Argument over. No need for a Bruiser reply to that one.
 

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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

Miss will not go quietly on these four. We will have to stay on top of this situation and work our *** off to secure these guys and if we don't then we will not get them. I've said before I think last year was a big learning experience for Mullen when it comes to recuriting in Mississippi. Hopefully he has adjusted his approach appropriately**.
 

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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

I'll wait until the message board rumors and tweets come out if that's what I have to do. Just need to know the ground rules before I start throwing out the M$U if we miss out on these guys.
 
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RebelBruiser

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My point is and always has been, we all cheat. It's just a matter of who gives out the best deal or works best behind the scenes from player to player.

Not every player is for sale, but a large number of them are, and over recent history, the head to head Ole Miss-MSU battle is fairly even for Mississippi kids. Do the math.
 

drt7891

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all that stuff for the entire interwebs to see. While "some" are being recruited, they talk about how poor they are and how hard money is to come by, then as soon as school starts, they tweet about all this new **** they got that most of us "average joe college students" can't afford (like new Z71's and stuff).

If it looks like a turd and smells like a turd, chances are, it's a turd.
 

Columbus Dawg

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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

We were even or ahead when Jackie was our coach. I thinkthe Nutt regime is way ahead of the Mullen regime in cheating for players, but i'm sure you disagree.
 

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Columbus Dawg said:
We were even or ahead when Jackie was our coach. I thinkthe Nutt regime is way ahead of the Mullen regime in cheating for players, but i'm sure you disagree.
So we both cheat, but are cheating better at the moment. OK.

Why wasn't Nutt known as a coach who cheated or bought players in his decade at Ark? Who on Nutt's staff has ever in their career been known as a cheater who bought players?

Is it coincidental that Melvin Smith has managed to work for 3 consecutive MSU staffs?
 

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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

olemissbydamn wrote:

Why wasn't Nutt known as a coach who cheated or bought players in his decade at Ark?
the other major university in Arkansas didn't complain. Oh wait, there is no other major university in Arkansas! <div>
</div><div>Also, Twitter and Facebook and information in general was not as available back then. The information age is allowing the stupidity of these kids to shine. When everyone on the planet is carrying a phone/video camera with a one-button upload to the internet for the world to see a lot of stuff comes out the closet.</div><div>
</div><div>Anyone from Ole Miss who can look at the CJ thing and say they didn't cheat with a straight face is completely full of ****.</div>
 

Columbus Dawg

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you are all a bunch of cheating mother 17er's and under Mullen we aren't cheating at all.

Nothing brings out the rebels like a recruiting thread.
 

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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

And you would be naive. I do think you had to play it cool in the 2011 class largely because you had boosters speak up about Cam Newton. You can't snitch and then cheat yourself with the NCAA snooping around.

In 2010's class, you were pretty much even with us in-state on prospects, and in 2009, you dominated on in-state prospects, but I'm sure given your beliefs in Mullen's and your boosters' virtues, you would tell me that Ole Miss must just not have been cheating those years. Hell, in 2009, Nutt had a year to establish his cheating ways, while Mullen had only just arrived, yet you still cleaned house. How is that possible?

I know we cheat, because we're a BCS school trying to compete. I know you cheat too. I think your boosters and assistants had to play it cool last year because Bond spoke up about Newton. You probably land more in-state prospects last year if you hadn't outed Newton.
 

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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

AssEndDawg said:
olemissbydamn wrote:

Why wasn't Nutt known as a coach who cheated or bought players in his decade at Ark?
the other major university in Arkansas didn't complain. Oh wait, there is no other major university in Arkansas!
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</div><div>Also, Twitter and Facebook and information in general was not as available back then. The information age is allowing the stupidity of these kids to shine. When everyone on the planet is carrying a phone/video camera with a one-button upload to the internet for the world to see a lot of stuff comes out the closet.</div><div>
</div><div>Anyone from Ole Miss who can look at the CJ thing and say they didn't cheat with a straight face is completely full of ****.</div>
behind enemy lines and if they refuse to believe this to be false I have first had knowledge of last years heppin. Also,same person whoactually witnessed these transgressions and heppin, said we were better off without CJ, because hewas, is and will always be a headcase, only worried about himself. As we have all found out based on his tweeting...
 

drt7891

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Based on the Clarion Ledger videos, I'm assuming the "Big 4" are thinking MSU?

We are not saying we have never "cheated." We ARE saying that OM has had some pretty flashy recruits going on social media and showing the world all this new bling they got IRONICALLY when school started.

You can call us "M$U" all you want (and frankly, I don't give two ***** if you do), but to my knowledge, the past few years (even if we have cheated), our players haven't been stupid enough to get write-ups in SportsByBrooks and BleacherReport about their tweets about new **** they got IRONICALLY when they got to campus (after they were complaining about the fact that money was hard to come by for their family).

Just callin' it like I see it.
 

olemissbydamn

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RougeDawg said:
AssEndDawg said:
olemissbydamn wrote:

Why wasn't Nutt known as a coach who cheated or bought players in his decade at Ark?
the other major university in Arkansas didn't complain. Oh wait, there is no other major university in Arkansas!
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</div><div>Also, Twitter and Facebook and information in general was not as available back then. The information age is allowing the stupidity of these kids to shine. When everyone on the planet is carrying a phone/video camera with a one-button upload to the internet for the world to see a lot of stuff comes out the closet.</div><div>
</div><div>Anyone from Ole Miss who can look at the CJ thing and say they didn't cheat with a straight face is completely full of ****.</div>
behind enemy lines and if they refuse to believe this to be false I have first had knowledge of last years heppin. Also,same person whoactually witnessed these transgressions and heppin, said we were better off without CJ, because hewas, is and will always be a headcase, only worried about himself. As we have all found out based on his tweeting...
I'm amazed that you have managed to hang on here with these conspiracy stories.

Yesterday you were posting about talking to people who sit in your section about how you guys couldn't understand how Nutt was landing recruits after our terrible season. http://sixpackspeak.yuku....rly-Gaines-#reply-503205

Then today you have first hand knowledge of s cheating.

Please, by all means, post your exclusive first hand account of us cheating (so sps gets credit for the scoop) and then take it to the NCAA.
 

RebelBruiser

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You mean recruit, not recruits.

And yes, I know we cheat, and I'm fine with it, because it's part of the game. We just need to be careful not to get too blatant and keep a level of plausible deniability. That's the rule. I just hope we're being smart about it.

Also, don't cite Bleacher Report or SportsByBrooks. I'm sure you cite Wikipedia as a legitimate reference too. Not that they can't have good information, but I could go post something for Bleacher Report tomorrow, and it wouldn't make it legitimate.

I was kidding about the "M$U" thing by the way. I just thought it was funny that Coach would suggest that money was going to be a factor, so you weren't going to have much of a shot, as if you don't play the game. And don't tell me Mullen doesn't know about the game and doesn't want to play the game. There is a reason he chose to keep Melvin on staff after Croom was fired, and it wasn't because Melvin is so good at teaching secondary technique. My original point was that if/when you sign some of these players, the same people that suggested money will come into play will be the same ones that say everything was on the up and up.

Claiming money will be on the table is just sandbagging in advance for if you lose a player.
 

drt7891

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What I said was they aren't writing articles about our players tweeting pictures of new trucks. I never once said it was a legitimate source. All I was saying is our players, for the most part, have done a better job of keeping our names away from those places because all they do is stir **** up.