Basketball: OSU @ Nebraska 8pm BTN

Hoosker Du

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Dude just be quiet please... And what happens when they win 5 straight? Basketball is streaky, and Morrowcs post play is freaking huge. It is the same whiners every time they lose

Same old losers supporting an epic failure losing performance. You may be satisfied with terrible offense, defense, and FT shooting, but the rest of us aren't. So pipe down yourself.
 
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schuele

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I actually thought Miles did a lot better job tonight than Matta, who required more than half the game to figure out that there was a feast to be had in the paint. But whoever decided to go straight up man-to-man on that last inbounds pass is out of his mind. Lose it on a perimeter shot or some kind of turnaround midrange shot - fine. But for God's sake don't put a ribbon and a bow on the winning basket.
 

BHeinDaHuskers

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I don't know what's more painful being a Husker basketball fan or those Cubs fans.....oh wait!!!
 

cubsker_rivals142943

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if the 2nd best player on the team had just done one thing right in the last ten minutes, we win. hard to blame miles for that and im far from his biggest supporter.
 

regionsdoc

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I actually thought Miles did a lot better job tonight than Matta, who required more than half the game to figure out that there was a feast to be had in the paint. But whoever decided to go straight up man-to-man on that last inbounds pass is out of his mind. Lose it on a perimeter shot or some kind of turnaround midrange shot - fine. But for God's sake don't put a ribbon and a bow on the winning basket.

And if you go straight up man to man, you have a big guy guarding the inbounds pass with strict instructions---get between the man and the basket and take away any passes towards the freaking basket!!!!
 
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schuele

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glynn fell down. the play was well defended. the guy it went to was prob the 4th option.
But even if Watson doesn't fall down, you can't end up with a huge mismatch right under the hoop with under two seconds left. Especially against a team that barely scored from outside 5 feet the entire second half.
 
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huskerbaseball13

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We had one assist in the second half...and Ohio St outscored us 30-10 in the paint. One assist in a half is pretty bad basketball. Unfortunately for as well as we played in the first half we were equally as bad in the second. One assist...
 
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cubsker_rivals142943

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if watson doeant fall down, they might not even get it in. maybe the positioning of the guy guarding the passer could be questioned but the overall execution of thw defense, I thought, was really good, other than somebody falling down.
 

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i dont remember one shot going in in the 2h that wasnt tai or a putback. hard to get any assists when the only guy that can make one is the guy on the ball.
 

schuele

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Yes if the plan was to have the rim defended by a guy who's 6'0" and 140 pounds, it was executed to perfection.
 

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The good news is we have two road games coming up. For whatever reason this team is much better on the road. Goal should be to get to 9-9 and win one in the Big Ten tournament. That may be good enough for a NIT bid.
 

chicolby

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A bunch of whiners is right. Do you guys get as jacked up happy after a win, or do you reserve your energy to complain after a loss?
 

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Yes if the plan was to have the rim defended by a guy who's 6'0" and 140 pounds, it was executed to perfection.

the guy who scored the winning basket was not going to be in thew paint. he cut after he realized glynn fell down. pretty obv because the passer wasnt looking his way at all.
 

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Whether or not you want to say that is up to you. I'm not blaming it on coaching. Either way, a loss is a loss is a loss. And Miles he had quite a few of them at home.

I like Miles. Tonight's loss wasn't his fault, but in the end it's a loss that will come back to bite him. He better reserve the court for free throw practice. Lots of it.
 

cubsker_rivals142943

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I think its funny to act like they dont practice free throws. every bball team ive ever seen shoots lots of free throws. they're fairly meaningless. i could hit 85 percent in an open gym...means nothing.
 

bigboxes

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I think its funny to act like they dont practice free throws. every bball team ive ever seen shoots lots of free throws. they're fairly meaningless. i could hit 85 percent in an open gym...means nothing.

Ok. Make them run stairs. Happy? :p
 

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the guy who scored the winning basket was not going to be in thew paint. he cut after he realized glynn fell down. pretty obv because the passer wasnt looking his way at all.
Loving set a screen 8 feet from the basket, and two Huskers left him all alone to chase another player. Best case scenario, they have a 6'8, 220-pound PF eight feet from the hoop with Watson defending him. That's a well-designed, well-executed defensive scheme with 1.6 on the clock?
 

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A bunch of whiners is right. Do you guys get as jacked up happy after a win, or do you reserve your energy to complain after a loss?

We haven't had many meaningful wins to get jacked up happy about. But we sure the hell have had plenty of disappointing loses to complain about.
 
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cubsker_rivals142943

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Loving set a screen 8 feet from the basket, and two Huskers left him all alone to chase another player. Best case scenario, they have a 6'8, 220-pound PF eight feet from the hoop with Watson defending him. That's a well-designed, well-executed defensive scheme with 1.6 on the clock?

you should go watch it again. there was no switch, loving didn't screen anyone, and watson was never going to be guarding loving. in hindsight, i'm sure tai wishes he hadn't left his man.
 

schuele

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If Watson wasn't going to be guarding Loving, then what difference did it make that Watson fell down? So Loving was just supposed to be completely unguarded, 8 feet from the basket?

In Loving's interview with Shon Morris, he says he set a screen and then two Huskers left the area. He would surely know if he was trying to set a screen or not.
 

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If Watson wasn't going to be guarding Loving, then what difference did it make that Watson fell down? So Loving was just supposed to be completely unguarded, 8 feet from the basket?

In Loving's interview with Shon Morris, he says he set a screen and then two Huskers left the area. He would surely know if he was trying to set a screen or not.

jesus christ dude, just go watch the ******* play.
 

schuele

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Well Jesus Christ, doooooood, you're the one who insisted that the defensive execution was just fine, except for the fact that Watson fell down. But then you tell me that Watson was never going to be guarding Loving anyway, who was left all by himself right under the basket. So excuse me for pointing out that this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If Watson wasn't supposed to be there, someone else surely was. In which case the defensive execution wasn't fine, it was terrible. Or I guess maybe it was fine, except for the part where it gave up an uncontested layup with under 1 second to play.
 
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Harry Caray

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No... Miles isn't at the free through line. Watson is usually money and he missed both of his in crunch time. Stfu about firing miles I'm tired of it!

Your average middle school coach would know to protect the basket first on a BLOB situation with 1 second left. It's not rocket science, put Jacobson under the basket to help there and make them beat you with a contested 3 pointer. Or have Jacobson guard the corner 3 and have everyone else protect the basket. A lot of little things like that are why I've lost faith in Miles. That and the 9-12 conference home record the last 2.5 years.

I have given Miles credit for recruiting and development, but I maintain that he is a mediocre in-game coach. I felt that way when I watched his CSU team get blown out by Murray St in the 2nd half of their NCAA tournament game in 2012. I felt that way when we blew an 18-point lead to OSU in the 2014 Big Ten tournament. The only times we have looked good under Miles are when he has gotten out of the way and let Petteway or Webster or Shields do their own thing. When good coaches have figured that out, he has had no answers or adjustments.
 

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Well Jesus Christ, doooooood, you're the one who insisted that the defensive execution was just fine, except for the fact that Watson fell down. But then you tell me that Watson was never going to be guarding Loving anyway, who was left all by himself right under the basket. So excuse me for pointing out that this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If Watson wasn't supposed to be there, someone else surely was. In which case the defensive execution wasn't fine, it was terrible. Or I guess maybe it was fine, except for the part where it gave up an uncontested layup with under 1 second to play.

tai was on loving. he left him because he was going to chase glynn's man since glynn fell down. this would be obv to anyone who took two seconds to watch the play. if glynn doesn't fall down, tai is guarding loving with absolutely no way for loving to get the ball. glynn would have been on his man's hip forcing either a very difficult shot or the inbounder to throw it in to someone else who is well guarded. that's why i said the play was well guarded if glynn had not fallen down and that tai is wishing he hadn't left his man. glynn's man would have had a decent shot, but jacobsen was also reacting to that action and could have contested it.
 

schuele

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Well I don't want to put players in a position where they have to make a choice between letting a cutter run though the lane and leaving a guy wide open right under the basket. Which is exactly why you plant at least one big body in the lane to make sure that doesn't happen. At the very least, make the other team hit a shot, whether it's from the arc or from 10 feet, and you'll win in that situation 90 percent of the time. I get that NU didn't plan to gift wrap the winning shot, but not planting someone in the lane left them vulnerable to exactly that.
 

schuele

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Are the Huskers closer to being 5-1 or 1-5?
Well that depends a lot on the Morrow factor. Without him in conference play, there's a good chance NU is 0-6. If he's healthy the whole time, they may not be 5-1 but I think they have at least one more win.
 

regionsdoc

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Well I don't want to put players in a position where they have to make a choice between letting a cutter run though the lane and leaving a guy wide open right under the basket. Which is exactly why you plant at least one big body in the lane to make sure that doesn't happen. At the very least, make the other team hit a shot, whether it's from the arc or from 10 feet, and you'll win in that situation 90 percent of the time. I get that NU didn't plan to gift wrap the winning shot, but not planting someone in the lane left them vulnerable to exactly that.

Just watched it again: with the inbounds so far in the corner, just a bad defensive strategy. Again, MJ was not guarding the basket, and Watson was biting WAY too hard trying to go around a screen on the opposite side of the court, when literally OSU could not have passed the ball to that spot--it would have hit the backboard. Luckily it's just a game, but coaching matters. How would OSU have reacted if NU came out after the 2nd TO in a zone??? OSU was out of TOs andOSU would have been stuck with a play designed for man to man D. Coaching matters......
 

huskerbaseball13

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I heard our student section and crowd sucks. Truth?

The crowd was meh last night... it felt like every time it got loud we gave up a bucket. It gets old people bagging on the fans, since year one of the PBA we are something like 9-15 against Power 5 schools + Big East at home. If people want to call it bandwagonish that's fine...but quit sucking at home and the crowd will be fine.
 
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chicolby

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Just watched it again: with the inbounds so far in the corner, just a bad defensive strategy. Again, MJ was not guarding the basket, and Watson was biting WAY too hard trying to go around a screen on the opposite side of the court, when literally OSU could not have passed the ball to that spot--it would have hit the backboard. Luckily it's just a game, but coaching matters. How would OSU have reacted if NU came out after the 2nd TO in a zone??? OSU was out of TOs andOSU would have been stuck with a play designed for man to man D. Coaching matters......
Many coaches use man to man on inbounds plays. This isn't 6th grade basketball where guys can't hit a 10 foot jumper. As the previous poster mentioned, everything broke down when Watson fell down. It is what it is. When Watson lost his man, Tai, correctly helped to stop the first open man, unfortunately, there was no one left to cover the man Tai left.

I actually spent more time watching the play before where we couldn't secure a rebound. It was literally a bad bounce and a couple Husker players watching the ball vs. putting a body on their man. No blame to an individual player as it's easy to stare at what could be a game winner, but Evan Taylor simply stares at the shot, then watches as the first bounce goes the opposite way. When it gets tipped back to his side, the player he should be in front of is positioned to grab it.

In addition, I think the OSU player may have traveled or at least didn't have complete control of the ball when he called a time out. Notice, he actually puts the ball back on the floor as he's afraid he's traveling or falling out of bounds. Not saying it was a bad call by the officials, but sometimes those are the breaks. Nebraska's offense went stagnant in the second half, partially due to just missing shots and partially due to a much better Ohio State defense in the second half.

All that aside, if Nebraska secures one rebound, none of you boo birds are screaming for Miles to be fired.
 

Archie Graham

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The crowd was meh last night... it felt like every time it got loud we gave up a bucket. It gets old people bagging on the fans, since year one of the PBA we are something like 9-15 against Power 5 schools + Big East at home. If people want to call it bandwagonish that's fine...but quit sucking at home and the crowd will be fine.

I know what you're saying but it's a two-way street. If it's a competative game the crowd should be in it. No argument from me about games that aren't very close.