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52 sexual assaults by no less than 31 players in a 3-year span from 2011-2014, per Title IX attorneys.
 
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maplesyrup95 said:
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...tants-buried-player-misbehavior-documents-say

Every paragraph you will get madder and more sickened. This is squarely on the shoulders of Art Briles. Though it's not as disgusting as Penn State, this will still make your stomach churn. Absolutely despicable.
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Not as disgusting, but worse overall. At Penn State some high ranking individuals covered up a series of atrocities to avoid shame. At Baylor it seems that officials actively promoted the sexual assaults of multiple women. I don't know if the NCAA will ever use the death penalty again, but if the charges here are true, this might well warrant it.
 
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I wonder why the ESPN report kept talking about Briles and unnamed assistants. Why not name them? I really like Tulsa's coach but he was the offensive coordinator there before coming here. I wonder if he will be caught up in it.
 
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And Kendall Briles will not survive this, he was the creator of the scene there
 
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This kind of story really makes me appreciate the way that Riley and staff are recruiting decent kids to Nebraska. Clearly, Art Briles didn't give 2 s****
 
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I'm glad we have no longer have any association with Baylor or the Big XII. This is really disgraceful. Baylor University should be ashamed of themselves and Briles should be in jail. You want to stop rapes on campuses give students back their right to carry, but I digress.
 
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VERY VERY hypothetical and premature question:

IF Baylor gets the death penalty, does the Big 12 fall apart? If not, who would they add?
 
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Tuco Salamanca said:
They didn't get the death penalty when they had a basketball player KILL another player, not sure these disgusting acts will be any different.
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That is not institution related.

No way of knowing for certain but I wonder if a major investigation would have been done in the dark days of Nebraska, what the numbers would have been given todays standards for sexual assault.
 
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What is it with this athletic department?

Seriously.

I'm well aware that "things" happen at all major programs including ours. Whether it's players getting benefits under the table or having the local PD look the other way on that potential disorderly conduct arrest.

But WTF. The same place where the head basketball coach tried to cover up one of his players murdering another one now has information coming out that the head football coach actively tried to cover up how numerous sexual assaults/rapes by his players? What the hell is going on there?
 
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TruHusker said:
That is not institution related.

No way of knowing for certain but I wonder if a major investigation would have been done in the dark days of Nebraska, what the numbers would have been given todays standards for sexual assault.
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Google Dave Bliss and Baylor. It was 100% institution related.
 
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Tuco Salamanca said:
Google Dave Bliss and Baylor. It was 100% institution related.
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The murder was institution related? People commit murder, not institutions. Yea, he was part of Baylor and all of that but I can't see the murder connection piece.
 
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The murder was institution related? People commit murder, not institutions. Yea, he was part of Baylor and all of that but I can't see the murder connection piece.
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The rapes were institution related? People commit rapes not institutions.


Bliss resigned from Baylor in 2003 following internal and NCAA investigations into a number of circumstances surrounding the murder of Baylor player Patrick Dennehy by a former player Carlton Dotson. These included the alleged involvement of Bliss in making illicit tuition payments for players Dennehy and Corey Herring, and his alleged attempt to frame Dennehy posthumously as a drug dealer in order to provide cover for himself; in 2005 the NCAA issued him a 10-year "show-cause" notice, effectively blackballing him from the NCAA coaching ranks until 2015.
 
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If my son had just signed with Baylor on NSD a couple days ago I'd be very concerned that he signed, knowing this program bred this kind of culture. I have to believe that the law enforcement is intertwined in all of this.

Briles' text messages make me so red hot pissed. What if it had been my sister? ...girlfriend? ...daughter?? 52 sexual assaults from 31 football players (read those numbers over again!)??? What kind of a man, person or group of people would allow this kind of thing to happen? Everyone involved should all be behind bars.

My guess is that the NCAA doesn't kill the program, but it puts a huge dent on their scholarship numbers. No bowl game for 3+ years, No Big Xll Championship Game for 3+ (starting next year), No College Football Playoff possibility 3+ years. Take these criminals down.
 
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maplesyrup95 said:
Briles' text messages make me so red hot pissed. What if it had been my sister? ...girlfriend? ...daughter?? 52 sexual assaults from 31 football players (read those numbers over again!)??? What kind of a man, person or group of people would allow this kind of thing to happen? Everyone involved should all be behind bars.
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sickening but doesnt surprise me much.

I think we all know guys that rationalize behavior like this. Make excuses. Victim blame.

Hell there have been posters on this board that think this way if you read between the lines.
 
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Tuco Salamanca said:
The rapes were institution related? People commit rapes not institutions.


Bliss resigned from Baylor in 2003 following internal and NCAA investigations into a number of circumstances surrounding the murder of Baylor player Patrick Dennehy by a former player Carlton Dotson. These included the alleged involvement of Bliss in making illicit tuition payments for players Dennehy and Corey Herring, and his alleged attempt to frame Dennehy posthumously as a drug dealer in order to provide cover for himself; in 2005 the NCAA issued him a 10-year "show-cause" notice, effectively blackballing him from the NCAA coaching ranks until 2015.
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Boy you got me on this one Tuco. I can't find the logic. I get the murder and he was at Baylor but the cause and affect of the institution causing this is what you stated. I have read the stuff about the cover ups, the bribes and all of that but not sure how the institution is responsible for the actual killing. If that is the case, every parent of a murder is guilty.
 
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Boy you got me on this one Tuco. I can't find the logic. I get the murder and he was at Baylor but the cause and affect of the institution causing this is what you stated. I have read the stuff about the cover ups, the bribes and all of that but not sure how the institution is responsible for the actual killing. If that is the case, every parent of a murder is guilty.
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There was no institutional control at the university. They had a basketball coach allegedly aid in the cover up of a player murdering another player and did not receive the death penalty. Now they have more lack of institutional control with football coaches covering up multiple rapes. If the former did not warrant the death penalty neither will the latter.

Is that clear enough Professor Literal?
 
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Tuco Salamanca said:
There was no institutional control at the university. They had a basketball coach allegedly aid in the cover up of a player murdering another player and did not receive the death penalty. Now they have more lack of institutional control with football coaches covering up multiple rapes. If the former did not warrant the death penalty neither will the latter.

Is that clear enough Professor Literal?
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Wow, name calling make you feel better. The cover up is after the fact, death penalty has nothing to do with causing the murder, what happened now has nothing to do with the murder.

While all those things are true, where are they the cause of someone killing someone else? I guess in this day in age, everyone else is responsible for our own problems - now I get it! Guess those logic classes were a waste of time for me.
 
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Wow, name calling make you feel better. The cover up is after the fact, death penalty has nothing to do with causing the murder, what happened now has nothing to do with the murder.

While all those things are true, where are they the cause of someone killing someone else? I guess in this day in age, everyone else is responsible for our own problems - now I get it! Guess those logic classes were a waste of time for me.
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Buh bye.
 
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Equal to Penn State. Raping women is not more acceptable than raping children. Rape is rape. It's not like these women are going to have an easier time getting over their experiences.

Which means Baylor will take the Penn State approach to penalties, self-impose a couple of years of scholarship reductions, do maybe one, and then successfully appeal to the NCAA for an end to the penalties.

Pretty amazing State Penn won the conference and had its 3rd best recruiting class when they are still supposed to be under sanctions.
 
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Not as disgusting, but worse overall. At Penn State some high ranking individuals covered up a series of atrocities to avoid shame. At Baylor it seems that officials actively promoted the sexual assaults of multiple women. I don't know if the NCAA will ever use the death penalty again, but if the charges here are true, this might well warrant it.
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Fellas all of the charges against PSU admins have been dropped except one charge and that will eventually be overturned as well. You just won't hear this in the media because as we all know the media enjoys destroying people the best.
That said just want to say I really like Nebreska and its fans. Class all around.
I was hoping we could finish the season playing each other. Two great programs but the BIG doesn't want to detract from their two favorite kids.
Best wishes.
 
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Fellas all of the charges against PSU admins have been dropped except one charge and that will eventually be overturned as well. You just won't hear this in the media because as we all know the media enjoys destroying people the best.
That said just want to say I really like Nebreska and its fans. Class all around.
I was hoping we could finish the season playing each other. Two great programs but the BIG doesn't want to detract from their two favorite kids.
Best wishes.
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Yeah right. PSU and Saint Paterno did nothing wrong.
I live in PA. PSU fans are the worst. Nothing disgusted me more than watching pedophile U win the B1G this year.
Save your praise. Don't want it
 
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