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FlotownDawg

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Being "honest", you are the only person I have heard even question the call. 100% of everybody else agrees, you run it once up the middle, spike it and kick the FG, and if you make it great, if you miss it's still what you should have done. You don't have to be happy he missed but it's better than being mystified by the dumb azz thing you did do. Summarizing Matt Wyatt's words he said in his 30 years of being around football it was the the most questionable call he had ever seen. Then after coming back from the commercial break after that happened, he said he had been staring at the 30 yd line for 5 minutes trying to figure out why they did that. It was 100% the opposite of what they should have done, end of story.......
I’m not questioning the call. I think it was a dumb decision. But I’m just trying to look at it objectively now that the anger has kind of worn off. Ferrie has been a good kicker for us and has a strong leg; but he did miss a 41-yard field goal earlier in the game, so I understand wanting to get closer. However, it has to be a very, very safe throw that can’t possibly be intercepted. If the throw isn’t wide open; throw it away and then run the ball on third down to center it up and kick the field goal. Shapen has to take a large part of the blame for throwing it into traffic. A turnover absolutely cannot happen in that situation, and it’s inexcusable that it did.
 
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If the FG had been attempted, one of 2 things would have happened: Make it we win, miss it we lose. Either way we would be more POd about running a QB keeper 4 times straight than losing this way.
 

3407Dewey

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No. But we are sure he’s the head coach and is responsible for it no matter who called it.
What I’m suggesting is that it likely was a QB call or read rather than from a coach. That’s how I interpreted Shapen’s comments after the game.
 

Villagedawg

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What I’m suggesting is that it likely was a QB call or read rather than from a coach. That’s how I interpreted Shapen’s comments after the game.
Understand. Didn’t see his comment. Even that is on the leadership.
 

TimberBeast

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I’m not questioning the call. I think it was a dumb decision. But I’m just trying to look at it objectively now that the anger has kind of worn off. Ferrie has been a good kicker for us and has a strong leg; but he did miss a 41-yard field goal earlier in the game, so I understand wanting to get closer. However, it has to be a very, very safe throw that can’t possibly be intercepted. If the throw isn’t wide open; throw it away and then run the ball on third down to center it up and kick the field goal. Shapen has to take a large part of the blame for throwing it into traffic. A turnover absolutely cannot happen in that situation, and it’s inexcusable that it did.
That’s fine except for the wasted time out. We still should have had one, then you can do whatever you want.
 

onewoof

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It was a very safe throw, except for the “throwing it directly to the 6-6 370 lb guy standing nowhere close to anybody” part.

Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?
How bad is it to call a time out and still come up with a predictable play that the opposition guesses correctly and wins it with an athletic play from the fattest guy on the field... running to the spot you chose to throw it to in the timeout, where your WR didn't run to but your QB still threw to.

I've seen a lot of football in my time, but that was next level incompetence. Baffling. Like we can still watch the replay and cannot process what we are witnessing.
 
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vandaldawg

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If we had run the ball up the middle for no gain and Ferrie came out to attempt a 47 yard FG and missed, how many of y’all would be screaming about how you shouldn’t settle for long field goals and we should’ve tried to get closer? Especially since he had missed a 41-yard FG earlier in the game. I know hindsight is 20/20, but if we settled for a long field goal and missed it, I think people would be upset for Lebby not trying to get closer to give Ferrie an easier kick.
I mean. It’s just the correct call. If you miss the field goal, yeah, suck. But I would not have questioned any of it.
 

TaleofTwoDogs

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The injuns are still laughing at us....

 

dickiedawg

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I was screaming at the TV "kick the FG now". And Lebby didn't. So that's your answer.
You were screaming for them to kick the field goal on 2nd down with 29 seconds left? That would have pretty weird.

I wonder if there was a reason Lebby didn’t trust Ferrie this week. He went for it on 4th and 2 from the 31 early in the game when that was in kicking range. Then Ferrie “missed” that 41-yarder.

I’m not sure Lebby made an unquestionably bad call. Folks are acting like it was already a chip shot field goal, and it wasn’t. It was makeable but not automatic.
You have to be able to trust your QB to make a good decision there. He didn’t.
 

CDawg08

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If Lebby after watching the film of that game and having a day to deep down think it through thinks he coached any kind of good game last night we are doomed. What I want from him is the self realization that I severely 17d that up and I can’t ever ever let myself do that sh*t again.
 
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You were screaming for them to kick the field goal on 2nd down with 29 seconds left? That would have pretty weird.

I wonder if there was a reason Lebby didn’t trust Ferrie this week. He went for it on 4th and 2 from the 31 early in the game when that was in kicking range. Then Ferrie “missed” that 41-yarder.

I’m not sure Lebby made an unquestionably bad call. Folks are acting like it was already a chip shot field goal, and it wasn’t. It was makeable but not automatic.
You have to be able to trust your QB to make a good decision there. He didn’t.
Absolutely, yes I was. I obviously have watched more state games than you.
 
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BTCMoonBoy

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We should be running the ball more in general. We ran on UT and UF but some dumbazz keeps thinking we should throw. That dumbazz could either be the coach or the qb
 
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thekimmer

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I would not have been happy about it but I would not have been completely outraged like I was Sat.
 

MagnoliaHunter

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From the way Lebby and Shapen made comments, I feel like the receiver ran the wrong route. They have not thrown anyone under the bus before and I felt like they didn't want to then.
 

Drebin

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If we had run the ball up the middle for no gain and Ferrie came out to attempt a 47 yard FG and missed, how many of y’all would be screaming about how you shouldn’t settle for long field goals and we should’ve tried to get closer? Especially since he had missed a 41-yard FG earlier in the game. I know hindsight is 20/20, but if we settled for a long field goal and missed it, I think people would be upset for Lebby not trying to get closer to give Ferrie an easier kick.
I'm being honest. The difference here is that you have a shot to win in your scenario. When you have an OL that struggles protecting the QB, and a QB that gets rattled easily, the worst thing you can do there is throw the ball.
 

paindonthurt

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If we had run the ball up the middle for no gain and Ferrie came out to attempt a 47 yard FG and missed, how many of y’all would be screaming about how you shouldn’t settle for long field goals and we should’ve tried to get closer? Especially since he had missed a 41-yard FG earlier in the game. I know hindsight is 20/20, but if we settled for a long field goal and missed it, I think people would be upset for Lebby not trying to get closer to give Ferrie an easier kick.
The same people b1tching about throwing it would have b1tched about running it.
 

paindonthurt

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We were gashing them all night in the running game. If he ran for no gain it would be acceptable because of that fact. If he rolls Shapen out with a chance to throw to the sideline and not in the middle of the field where a bunch of bad sh*t can happen no one says anything either. You just can’t throw the ball in an area of the field where half the defense is just sitting all to just try and gain 5 yards for a little bit closer field goal. It’s not worth the risk.
We didn't really throw it in a crowded area. I don't know what happened. Either shapen messed up or a route screwed up.

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You can skip to the 15:53 mark here. Looks like he was expecting an out route under neath the corner route.
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onewoof

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We didn't really throw it in a crowded area. I don't know what happened. Either shapen messed up or a route screwed up.

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You can skip to the 15:53 mark here. Looks like he was expecting an out route under neath the corner route.
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Shapen commented that the receiver was to "sit" but he kept going. It would have been an incomplete pass and no harm no foul but the NG drifted over and knew the play. My guess is we said something about the "logo" during the timeout and a UF coach saw that. There is no way the NG floats over to the exact spot like that unless UF knows the play before hand.
 

paindonthurt

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Shapen commented that the receiver was to "sit" but he kept going. It would have been an incomplete pass and no harm no foul but the NG drifted over and knew the play. My guess is we said something about the "logo" during the timeout and a UF coach saw that. There is no way the NG floats over to the exact spot like that unless UF knows the play before hand.
Um its called a zone blitz. The linebacker blitz and the nose guard jumped into his zone.
 

greenbean.sixpack

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We could live with a missed FG, we’d still be upset but could live with it. Putting the game in the hands of a Brady/Allen/Dak type player would have been fine, but putting the game in the hands of the worst QB in the SEC (when there was another option) we can’t live with.
 

paindonthurt

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you could call it that but he's litearlly going backwards to the place the ball is passed, not much of a blitz
The guy who is dropping backwards is dropping into a zone. He is going to a zone that would normally be covered by a linebacker. The linebacker is the one blitzing.

its 100% a zone blitz. It’s a text book zone blitz.

2 defensive lineman drop into coverage on the play. 1 drops into 1 zone and another drops into the opposite zone.
 

We Men

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In the words of the late MSU coach Emory Bellard, when you pass the ball 3 things can happen and 2 of them are bad.
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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If we had run the ball up the middle for no gain and Ferrie came out to attempt a 47 yard FG and missed, how many of y’all would be screaming about how you shouldn’t settle for long field goals and we should’ve tried to get closer? Especially since he had missed a 41-yard FG earlier in the game. I know hindsight is 20/20, but if we settled for a long field goal and missed it, I think people would be upset for Lebby not trying to get closer to give Ferrie an easier kick.


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