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gpcocks

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I was in his camp for the longest time - but this entire season proved to me that we need to move on, and so does Sellers. Just go.... please!!! Awful coach, awful QB.

Not sure you even understand football. Did Sellers forget how to be a quarterback since last year? Or, maybe, just maybe, it's fairly difficult when he has a guard, LB and blitzing defensive back in his lap as soon as the ball reaches his hands when he is standing 5 yards from the center. Da fuq games were you watching this year?

And Beamer needs to surrender at least 2 million/yr to get a proven OC, and some OLinemen from the portal. Our OL needs to take several seats.
 
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Lurker123

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Not sure you even understand football. Did Sellers forget how to be a quarterback since last year? Or, maybe, just maybe, it's fairly difficult when he has a guard, LB and blitzing defensive back in his lap as soon as the ball reaches his hands when he is standing 5 yards from the center. Da fuq games were you watching this year?

You must have been watching a different player if you thought Sellers wasn't struggling above and beyond the OL play.
 

gpcocks

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You must have been watching a different player if you thought Sellers wasn't struggling above and beyond the OL play.
Your're kidding me. Want Cutter to take over? LS is running for his life on nearly every play, has been since the bowl game last year.

Whatever, carry on here at Gamecock Central, so many football gurus. :)
 
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Not sure you even understand football. Did Sellers forget how to be a quarterback since last year? Or, maybe, just maybe, it's fairly difficult when he has a guard, LB and blitzing defensive back in his lap as soon as the ball reaches his hands when he is standing 5 yards from the center. Da fuq games were you watching this year?

And Beamer needs to surrender at least 2 million/yr to get a proven OC, and some OLinemen from the portal. Our OL needs to take several seats.
Sellers is exactly the same QB he was last year. The difference is, opposing DCs know how to defend him now. He is a great athlete and a mediocre at best QB. The OL was no worse last season.
 

gpcocks

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Sellers is exactly the same QB he was last year. The difference is, opposing DCs know how to defend him now. He is a great athlete and a mediocre at best QB. The OL was no worse last season.
That's correct. Same QB, victim of a washed up son of an NFL coaching legend and good buddy of Beamer.
 
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Not sure you even understand football. Did Sellers forget how to be a quarterback since last year? Or, maybe, just maybe, it's fairly difficult when he has a guard, LB and blitzing defensive back in his lap as soon as the ball reaches his hands when he is standing 5 yards from the center. Da fuq games were you watching this year?

And Beamer needs to surrender at least 2 million/yr to get a proven OC, and some OLinemen from the portal. Our OL needs to take several seats.
I was watching the games where Sellers was running out of bounds, backwards, for losses.

Don't lecture me, kiddo. Yes, the OL sucks. The OL has always sucked. But once you get outside the pocket on a scramble and you run out of bounds, backwards, for a loss......THAT IS ON THE QB!!! All you gotta do is toss it into the stands and save yards. Sellers is AWFUL!!!
 
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You pay these kids that kind of money and they lose all motivation. Look at what the welfare system has done to this country. Popping 40s on the curb during early morning work hours. Its a losing mentality
 

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Your're kidding me. Want Cutter to take over? LS is running for his life on nearly every play, has been since the bowl game last year.

Whatever, carry on here at Gamecock Central, so many football gurus. :)
YES, I do.

I bet you my left testicle he will throw it out of bounds when he's under pressure and nothing is open. It's what ALL good QB's do .....but not Sellers. He just runs out of bounds for a loss. It's truly unbelievable and completely indefensible.
 

Creek Snake

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I was firmly in Sellers camp but no denying he struggled with the decision making part of being a QB this year.No doubt the OL and poor coaching played a large part in his regression but he has a lot of bad habits that need to be unlearned.More than 1 QB has been ruined by a year like Sellers just experienced.
 

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Your're kidding me. Want Cutter to take over? LS is running for his life on nearly every play, has been since the bowl game last year.

Whatever, carry on here at Gamecock Central, so many football gurus. :)

I think you missed a part of my post. I agree the OL caused many of his issues, but I think he struggled above and beyond that.

He missed passes badly, even when he wasn't under pressure. He ran backwards, took too many sacks, etc.

Yes, the OL was terrible. He didn't help himself though.

I also agree that there was a shift on how the coaches wanted him to be a pocket passer. And that is not conducive to success with him.
 
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18IsTheMan

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We were a total no-show today. Pretty lifeless from the outset. The D held their own, but otherwise a total bust of a performance. That's coaching.

I'm sure we had a fantastic walk-through.
 
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I4CtheFuture

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I was firmly in Sellers camp but no denying he struggled with the decision making part of being a QB this year.No doubt the OL and poor coaching played a large part in his regression but he has a lot of bad habits that need to be unlearned.More than 1 QB has been ruined by a year like Sellers just experienced.
Correct.

I was actually waiting for him to SHOW PROGRESS during the year..... like learning to throw it out of bounds when nothing is there, releasing the ball more on time, being a vocal leader, etc.... but it just never happened. He did not improve one iota during the season....kept making the same idiotic decisions over and over, looking for the deep ball, and eating sacks. Even when he scrambled around he looked tentative and would inexplicably run out of bounds - often backwards, for a loss.

Spurrier would have unquestionably benched him. BENCHED HIM!!! There is zero doubt in my mind about that. The mistakes that Sellers makes, you just can't have it.... can't.

ONE AREA of his game did improve from last season. I don't recall him fumbling the ball this season like he did last year. So, there's that..... but at this level in the SEC, that should be a given.
 
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I4CtheFuture

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Should we dig up the "he needs to improve" threads? Some posters got really pissed off when it was suggested that Sellers needed to improve his game this past offseason.
No......no need to dig them up. I remember. I also remember the poster that lambasted me for having the audacity to say that Sellers was throwing over the middle to receivers who were apparently 30 feet tall....

Sellers doesn't overthrow anyone and is very accurate, apparently. But that poster said I know nothing about football, so.... No need to dig it up. It's pretty apparent who doesn't know anything about football. And that poster is apparently a "coach." Lol. You can't make this stuff up.
 
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No......no need to dig them up. I remember. I also remember the poster that lambasted me for having the audacity to say that Sellers was throwing over the middle to receivers who were apparently 30 feet tall....

Sellers doesn't overthrow anyone and is very accurate, apparently. But that poster said I know nothing about football, so.... No need to dig it up. It's pretty apparent who doesn't know anything about football. And that poster is apparently a "coach." Lol. You can't make this stuff up.
We need names. 🙂
 

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No......no need to dig them up. I remember. I also remember the poster that lambasted me for having the audacity to say that Sellers was throwing over the middle to receivers who were apparently 30 feet tall....

Sellers doesn't overthrow anyone and is very accurate, apparently. But that poster said I know nothing about football, so.... No need to dig it up. It's pretty apparent who doesn't know anything about football. And that poster is apparently a "coach." Lol. You can't make this stuff up.

Was he a coach, or was his dad a coach?

The other one played 2A highschool basketball. So thats how hes an "expert".
 

18IsTheMan

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I've been out on Beamer, but an inspired performance in a win today could have swayed me a bit.

It was an inexplicably uninspired performance.
 

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You must have been watching a different player if you thought Sellers wasn't struggling above and beyond the OL play.

If you don't think the offensive line is the problem regardless of who is back there at QB, then you are definitely watching a different game. Does Sellers make mistakes and struggle? Absolutely. Did he go backwards some? Absolutely.
But I promise you that you could have Tom Brady at QB and that would be a 4 win team with that offensive line. It is absolutely horrific. Worst since Lou Holtz first year. Worst in college football this year.l
 

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If you don't think the offensive line is the problem regardless of who is back there at QB, then you are definitely watching a different game. Does Sellers make mistakes and struggle? Absolutely. Did he go backwards some? Absolutely.
But I promise you that you could have Tom Brady at QB and that would be a 4 win team with that offensive line. It is absolutely horrific. Worst since Lou Holtz first year. Worst in college football this year.l

From a later post of mine:

I think you missed a part of my post. I agree the OL caused many of his issues, but I think he struggled above and beyond that.

He missed passes badly, even when he wasn't under pressure. He ran backwards, took too many sacks, etc.

Yes, the OL was terrible. He didn't help himself though.

I also agree that there was a shift on how the coaches wanted him to be a pocket passer. And that is not conducive to success with him.
 

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I think you missed a part of my post. I agree the OL caused many of his issues, but I think he struggled above and beyond that.

He missed passes badly, even when he wasn't under pressure. He ran backwards, took too many sacks, etc.

Yes, the OL was terrible. He didn't help himself though.

I also agree that there was a shift on how the coaches wanted him to be a pocket passer. And that is not conducive to success with him.

So let's take Sellers out of it for a minute. You could replace him with any QB you can name and SC still only wins 4 games. That offensive line is the worst in college football and it isn't even close.
 

Creek Snake

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I’m not sure Sellers would be Spurriers type of QB.The 2 who flourished the most under Spurrier were Danny W and Connor Shaw.
I think Sellers would do better in a Josh Huepel or Eli Drink. system.
 

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So let's take Sellers out of it for a minute. You could replace him with any QB you can name and SC still only wins 4 games. That offensive line is the worst in college football and it isn't even close.

I could argue that a different qb might have gotten us one or two of those close games.

Remember Sellers of last year? Aggressive runner? Just him running like last year could have given us a couple of those games.

Listen, I agree, the OL sucked. It hamstrings the entire offense, and team.

But I cant pretend Sellers wasn't part of the problem. He did himself no favors.
 

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If you don't think the offensive line is the problem regardless of who is back there at QB, then you are definitely watching a different game. Does Sellers make mistakes and struggle? Absolutely. Did he go backwards some? Absolutely.
But I promise you that you could have Tom Brady at QB and that would be a 4 win team with that offensive line. It is absolutely horrific. Worst since Lou Holtz first year. Worst in college football this year.l
I totally agree with you except for the point that you seem to be missing...

Sellers had alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll season to work on his mistakes. IE: running backwards out of bounds. Not throwing it away like all good QB's do. Not releasing the ball on time. Constantly looking for the deep ball, etc...etc...

No question the OL sucks. No one is arguing that. What I think we're saying, or trying to say, is that Sellers showed absolutely NO IMPROVEMENT on an individual decision making basis over the course of the entire season. If anything, he absolutely regressed. THAT is the problem - with Sellers at least. And I said it somewhere else and I'll say it again: Spurrier would have absolutely BENCHED HIM for it. It's inexcusable. Absolutely inexcusable.
 
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