...Ignoring Alabama and Florida for simplicity's sake, and assuming Ole Miss wins their next two, then us taking the next two from LSU would mean an outright SEC championship for the rebels, their first since 1977. With that in mind...
Beating LSU vs. OM SEC Championship poll...
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...Ignoring Alabama and Florida for simplicity's sake, and assuming Ole Miss wins their next two, then us taking the next two from LSU would mean an outright SEC championship for the rebels, their first since 1977. With that in mind...
Reasoning: I would rather see us take 2 out of 3 from LSU and not worry about ole miss. Even with your assumption that they win out it doesn't really matter to me. I simply can't hope for us to lose so that OM will miss out on an outright championship or even a split. I know it isn't like actually rooting against our team but it has that sex-with-your-sister sort of feel to it.
...we can't even reach .500 now. We have nothing to play for. But I figured it would make a good poll and you would have people on both sides of the fence.
it is a tough decision since salvaging this season is not possible at this point. it comes down to me hating losing so much that i can't hope for us to lose. the ONLY time i have ever been able to do it was this past season during the damn egg bowl. i didn't like getting blown out the way we did but i had a pretty good feeling that the crooked hat would skip town with our money and stop running us further into the ground. even then i hated liking the outcome.
Say Ole Miss sweeps Arkansas and LSU loses one to us. That leaves them with identical SEC records. I know LSU would win the tiebreaker but does the SEC recognize co-champions in baseball (such as football and basketball)? Also, was Ole Miss' last overall SEC championship (football, basketball, baseball) in 1972 or 1977? Google is not my friend this morning.</p>edited to add: Can't believe I wasted such a milestone post count on this. Damn.
....but I don't know for sure. Also, somebody on here said 1977 the other day. That's what I am going by.
...during baseball season when there was uncertainty as to who would be hiring the new head coach and Polk was pimping Raffo so hard. I knew it was in the best interest of our program not to hire Raffo and tanking down the stretch would help that not to happen.
It's 1977. 1972 I believe was our last appearance at the CWS, though I'd have to look that up. We won the SEC in 1977 in baseball. That's our last regular season overall title.
And yes, if we tie LSU, we would be considered SEC Champs, with a trophy and everything, though we'd lose the tiebreaker. I've come to the conclusion that it is impossible for us to end up on the right side of a tiebreaker. It just doesn't happen no matter the circumstances.
I really don't know if it matters though. Louis Coleman is pitching today, and with the way he's pitching, he'll out-duel Routt no matter how well Routt throws. And by the third game, you'll be scraping the bottom of the barrel with your thin pitching, so I don't think you'll win that one either. I thought your best chance at winning the series or winning a game was last night's game. Then, you'd have had to have Routt throw the game of his life and hope to get Coleman out of the game early to give yourself a chance at the series.
And yes, if we tie LSU, we would be considered SEC Champs, with a trophy and everything, though we'd lose the tiebreaker. I've come to the conclusion that it is impossible for us to end up on the right side of a tiebreaker. It just doesn't happen no matter the circumstances.
I really don't know if it matters though. Louis Coleman is pitching today, and with the way he's pitching, he'll out-duel Routt no matter how well Routt throws. And by the third game, you'll be scraping the bottom of the barrel with your thin pitching, so I don't think you'll win that one either. I thought your best chance at winning the series or winning a game was last night's game. Then, you'd have had to have Routt throw the game of his life and hope to get Coleman out of the game early to give yourself a chance at the series.
I voted us to get swept which i wouldnt normally do, but given the circumstances:
1)no way to have a winning season
2)ending the season on a high note only works toward next year when you arent planning on "cleaning house" with your current players.
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1)no way to have a winning season
2)ending the season on a high note only works toward next year when you arent planning on "cleaning house" with your current players.
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What's going to happen is Arkansas gets off their butts and Ole Miss loses the next two, state win today, and the Saturday game rained out. I think if that happens Ole Miss will tie with LSU and LSU wins the tie breaker?
I have a question about the 8th spot. Who wins the tie breaker between Vandy and Ken it they are still tied at the end of the weekend?</p>
I have a question about the 8th spot. Who wins the tie breaker between Vandy and Ken it they are still tied at the end of the weekend?</p>
...Ole Miss. So if both Ole Miss and LSU lose today, then that will remain the same. If Ole Miss loses again on Saturday and LSU is rained out, then Ole Miss will finish 1.5 games behind LSU, so no tiebreaker, there is even more of a gap between OM and LSU. I don't know how you could look at that and think that they would be tied. That scenario would also open the door for Florida (currently 1 game behind LSU) or Alabama (1.5 back of LSU).
SEC Champions
College World Series Appearances
We did win the SEC title in 1972 as well, but the most recent title was 1977.
College World Series Appearances
We did win the SEC title in 1972 as well, but the most recent title was 1977.
Vandy has one rainout already. Hypothetically if Vandy loses their next two and Kentucky wins one against Florida before raining out the final game, they would be tied.
However, if they were to tie, Kentucky beat Vandy 2 of 3 to hold the tiebreaker.
That said, all that has to happen for Vandy to clinch the 8th spot is for them to win one of the next 2 against UT or have UK lose one of the next two against Florida.
I assume that one of those two things will happen. For Kentucky to make the SEC tourney, they have to have to win their last 2 and have Vandy lose their last two, or hypothetically they could make it if they win one, have a rain out, and Vandy loses the last two to UT.
However, if they were to tie, Kentucky beat Vandy 2 of 3 to hold the tiebreaker.
That said, all that has to happen for Vandy to clinch the 8th spot is for them to win one of the next 2 against UT or have UK lose one of the next two against Florida.
I assume that one of those two things will happen. For Kentucky to make the SEC tourney, they have to have to win their last 2 and have Vandy lose their last two, or hypothetically they could make it if they win one, have a rain out, and Vandy loses the last two to UT.
....I would imagine there would be quite a conflict between his hatred for Ole Miss and his sheepish "Never pull against us under any circumstances" approach.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">It's a dilemma for me as well so I went with the compromise. Ole Miss loses the tie breaker.DowntownDawg said:
</p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I really hate Ole Miss and Alabama is a close second.</p>
This would be a lot tougher for me if I hadn't gotten used to rooting against State after it was clear that we'd lost the Egg Bowl. Although I do think this is a step further.