If you can't own a house for less than $2k a month than you should move. Plenty of places that are much less. You can get a bi level home with probably close to 2k square footage and a 2 1/2 car garage near where I live for under a $1,000 a month (not a bad area either).
Beginning of Universal Basic Income?
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I’m retired, an extra $2k would just be gravy for me. If the young people want to vote for that, I’ll take it but they’ll be the ones paying for it.
Absolutely no to this. I bought a house and pay way less than $2000 a month. Of course, my mortgage is less than my annual salary, because I didn't feel the need to buy a $300,000 home (and I could have if I wanted to).
Average 1BR rent where I live (Bay Area) is $2500/month. You can’t even sniff a house under $4k and most are over $5k. Houses here sell for more than $1000/sf in many places.
5G will make autonomous vehicles a reality. We're only a few years away from over 3 million truck drivers losing their careers.
Try being on disability or ssi.
Yeah it’s all relative to where you live. Wife and I downsized about 4 years ago after the kids were grown and moved out. Built a new 1800 square foot home plus basement and 2 car garage. Nothing fancy, but not on the cheap side either. Cost around 200,000 total plus another 27 for a 9 acre lot. But we’re out in the country in rural Kentucky. I’m sure it’s much more near more populated places.
Lol at people telling other people what size home they should buy.
That’s the one, single thing that turned me off to SF. Even selling a house outright in the city won’t yield enough to keep living there
yep, called communism. you can tell who the commies are in these threads...
If I want to soak my money in lighter fluid and light it up with a flame thrower while listening to God bless America. so be it. it's my money. once the govt starts "giving" you money, it's theirs to full on dictate how you live.
One of my best friend’s mother is in that position. There is no motivation to sell because it keeps going up in value. But she has to borrow to pay the property taxes.
Part of the reason world will change so much. There are many other facets including healthcare, education, retail, fast food, etc.
5G is killing off all the old and sick ppl as we speak, making this push possible for universal health care, education much cheaper and attainable as well........
rode in one Vegas. It was a Leval 3 autonomous. Still needed driver to maneuver out of the hotel parking lot, but once he hit the open road the driver took his hands off the wheel and foot off the gas. Car drove itself all the way to the destination
Driver said at a Level 5, it will be fully autonomous
You realize in a few years they're going to be sending big loads out with no drivers. Boy that'll be really successful. [roll]
Nobody will steal anything off of those trucks.
This. I'd rather earn what I make now, then get an additional 24K or 66K and have the government tell me what to do. I live in KY, and I had a job offer that paid around 200K but was in California (where houses are $600K or more). I said "no thanks". That'a almost a 50% increase in pay, but a 300% increase in expenses. No thanks; I am paying about $140K for my house right now (I'm a single guy; what do I really need?). I make great money for living in Kentucky; I make TERRIBLE money to live in California.
How do you sustain it? A lot more people would go on it and a lot less people working who pays for it?
When you raise it (taxes) that much more people will go on the Dole because they'll be back down below the normal income and start to say what the heck, let me just join what the rest of people are doing and you will have a lot less people paying into it and more people taking from it. Therefore causing taxes to be raised again continuing until we go under.
It is impossible to sustain and therefore a totally ridiculous point.
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Never happen. Most will find a way not to work. How would you enforce it.
Owned. For two grand a month. 100% owned. Your *** belongs. You don't feel the chains, don't see them. But that heavy load of shame. A new slave either feels it or was born for it and just don't know what's happened to him.
Someone tell me who gets the basic income and what determines who gets it.
Yep, if this **** comes to fruition, I could see us living in a Running Man/Blade Runner type of society. No thanks.
Let me give a little perspective from my little corner of the world. I am about to retire from a civil service job that went sour so I will be retiring at a lower-than-expected income with my military retirement check, taking early social security, and then the civil service check. After taxes I will take home around $3000 maybe $3,100 a month. My mortgage is around $1,550 a month. That's about half of what I'm taking home. Then, when you factor in the other bills, I will be doing a part-time job still paying taxes into the system to make ends meet. If you give me two thousand more dollars a month for a basic income, I will not do that part-time job therefore not giving into the system. Is this anecdotal? Yes but, I will bet there are a lot more people out there like me who will do that so, you will have a lot more of them taking than giving.
When the plan is to destroy freedom, eliminate essential liberties, nullify sovereign recognition, etc. and beyond . . . socialism ALWAYS works.
I'm sure you'll do your part and keep the Chinese in business.
There are bunch of liberals on this thread that think their horrible ideas are going to get implemented.
Michigan is having a nice test run.
Why do you care what people spend it on? It's not your money and the producers of the goods they spend it on will spend it on something else. The most important thing they can do with this money for all of us is to go out and buy something with it. The worst thing they can do is save it or pay off debt.
Yes.
That is progress.
BTW, I have a source that says there were a minimum of 2.9 million cases in China. XINN may want to back off that they're doing a better job than the United States.