Benet academy vs Cary grove round 2...

pjjp

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I give Benet a legit shot in this one. The strength of the Benet defense is their DT's and MLB. They should have the personnel to limit CG's #1 threat in the triple-option, FB Pennington. Looks like the backup QB played well last week for CG. Not sure if the starter will be back or not. I'm guessing CG might find more success on the perimeter of Benet's defense.

As for Benet's offense, the QB is a nice player. He executes their short passing game very well. The LB and DB who rotate in at RB have been very effective. Benet also has a nice group of receivers....a few of whom have good size.

This is an interesting matchup. Many will not give Benet much of a chance, but they would seem to match up pretty well with CG. We shall see.
 

LakeCtyNewt

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It's simple, can benet defend the triple option? If they can it will be a tight game and likely a Benet win. If the struggle Cary wins going away.

Also it's supposed to rain Thursday and Friday. What factor will that play on an already chewed up Cary grass field?
 

illini14

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Not that CoM is CG but Benet shut them down and they run simliar offense to CG
Helps that they have seen a similiar offense, yes.
However, COM was bad this year. The level of execution, specifically the reads by the QB, are going to be at a different level by Cary Grove.
 

Bearsfan4197

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It's simple, can benet defend the triple option? If they can it will be a tight game and likely a Benet win. If the struggle Cary wins going away.

Also it's supposed to rain Thursday and Friday. What factor will that play on an already chewed up Cary grass field?
Nobody in the state runs the triple option as good as Cary-Grove and prairie ridge. That's why they always have deep playoff runs
 

Bearsfan4197

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really?

Benet out-played and out-coached JCA. If benet can do that, they can win.
Cary grove has a great coaching staff. Cary runs the triple option so well. They have Pennington who can get those extra yards down the middle and speedy Ryan Magel to run on the outside. The defense is allowing less than 14 points a game.
 

Bearsfan4197

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Helps that they have seen a similiar offense, yes.
However, COM was bad this year. The level of execution, specifically the reads by the QB, are going to be at a different level by Cary Grove.
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I give Benet a legit shot in this one. The strength of the Benet defense is their DT's and MLB. They should have the personnel to limit CG's #1 threat in the triple-option, FB Pennington. Looks like the backup QB played well last week for CG. Not sure if the starter will be back or not. I'm guessing CG might find more success on the perimeter of Benet's defense.

As for Benet's offense, the QB is a nice player. He executes their short passing game very well. The LB and DB who rotate in at RB have been very effective. Benet also has a nice group of receivers....a few of whom have good size.

This is an interesting matchup. Many will not give Benet much of a chance, but they would seem to match up pretty well with CG. We shall see.
Has benet played a triple option team lately? Teams who don't see the option tend to struggle so much against cary-grove because they run it so well. Pennington is tough guy to take down. He rushes for like 3-4 yards every run. They also have a speedy back that runs on the outside. Cary Grove has a good defense as well. The defense is allowing an average of 14 points per game. It might be lower.
 

JCHILLTOPPERS

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Nobody in the state runs the triple option as good as Cary-Grove and prairie ridge. That's why they always have deep playoff runs

I think there is something to that, especially with so many teams running the spread now. that said, it's hard to argue that anyone runs it better than MC, which is why they not only run deep playoff runs, but also have the second most titles in the state.

I can't figure out what's going on at CoM.
 

Bearsfan4197

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I hate that triple option trash
Cary grove has been running it since 2004
12 straight playoffs appearances since 2004
CG has won a playoff game every year since 2004
90-9 in the regular season since 2004
2004 7a second place finish
2009 6a state Champs
2012 6a second place finish
2014 7a second place finish
 

Bearsfan4197

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I think there is something to that, especially with so many teams running the spread now. that said, it's hard to argue that anyone runs it better than MC, which is why they not only run deep playoff runs, but also have the second most titles in the state.

I can't figure out what's going on at CoM.
True Cary hasn't been able to finish in the state finals but once
 

CGsupporter

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True Cary hasn't been able to finish in the state finals but once

QB play is not as strong as it has been at CG during their past title runs. Not to take anything away from Sullivan, but Mitz, Krebs, Baker and even Gregoire ran it better and were more of a threat to keep and run it than this team's QBs. Not sure if Sullivan will be back either for the Benet game at this point either, but it is unlikely if he does indeed have mono.

More of an outside running game this year with Magel and Pressley, and Pennington, while strong and good for 3-4 and an occasional 10+ yard burst, he isn't running behind Ruhland, Gomez and Topal this year and you can see the difference in his numbers.

If Benet can neutralize the run like Huntely did, they will win the game. Too one-dimensional on offense and while the defense is an athletic and speedy bunch who flock to the ball, we'll see how they do against a team like Benet this week.
 

Bearsfan4197

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QB play is not as strong as it has been at CG during their past title runs. Not to take anything away from Sullivan, but Mitz, Krebs, Baker and even Gregoire ran it better and were more of a threat to keep and run it than this team's QBs. Not sure if Sullivan will be back either for the Benet game at this point either, but it is unlikely if he does indeed have mono.

More of an outside running game this year with Magel and Pressley, and Pennington, while strong and good for 3-4 and an occasional 10+ yard burst, he isn't running behind Ruhland, Gomez and Topal this year and you can see the difference in his numbers.

If Benet can neutralize the run like Huntely did, they will win the game. Too one-dimensional on offense and while the defense is an athletic and speedy bunch who flock to the ball, we'll see how they do against a team like Benet this week.
I think this team will get past this week and will give Batavia a good battle in the quarters
 

Bearsfan4197

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QB play is not as strong as it has been at CG during their past title runs. Not to take anything away from Sullivan, but Mitz, Krebs, Baker and even Gregoire ran it better and were more of a threat to keep and run it than this team's QBs. Not sure if Sullivan will be back either for the Benet game at this point either, but it is unlikely if he does indeed have mono.

More of an outside running game this year with Magel and Pressley, and Pennington, while strong and good for 3-4 and an occasional 10+ yard burst, he isn't running behind Ruhland, Gomez and Topal this year and you can see the difference in his numbers.

If Benet can neutralize the run like Huntely did, they will win the game. Too one-dimensional on offense and while the defense is an athletic and speedy bunch who flock to the ball, we'll see how they do against a team like Benet this week.
Also Huntley did state that a rumor was true. That they did practice against the triple option during practice for 20 mins every practice since week 1
 

CGsupporter

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Also Huntley did state that a rumor was true. That they did practice against the triple option during practice for 20 mins every practice since week 1

I like our chances, Bearsfan, don't get me wrong. I also have no doubt that Huntley did practice it every week just in anticipation of the CG game; in fact I think Coach Hart admitted it after the game. I don't know much about Benet outside of what I've read here and online, and I checked out their scores on IHSA.org. They won some close games this year and they did beat JC this year.

I also think Sullivan has played well, and Collins did a nice job as QB last week showing an extra burst of speed at QB when he kept the ball. He also threw some nice balls when he had to. To quote Newt from 2009, Krebs was a magician as QB and we just don't have that this year as this is Sullivan's first year running the O and Krebs was a freak and Baker was not far behind him in that respect. Team has exceeded expectations this year and the coaching staff has done a great job getting the team ready. I expect they will be ready this weekend as well.
 

sundevil1988

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I can't figure out what's going on at CoM.[/QUOTE]

JCHill,

This yr as previous poster stated the qb had problems making the right read, O-line was overmatched, lost TE to season ending injury which allowed opposing defenses to focus on stopping Jamison their fullback. Interesting stat since the 2011-12 season CoM non conference record is 2-10 - IMO the run is over and CoM is what they were previous to the 2000's medicore at best.
 

UlbKA91

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Are CoM's challenges and how to address worth a thread? Maybe Lake CtyNewt can handle it.
 

illini14

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I hate that triple option trash
Really? You must not like winning. There's a lot of different ways to skin a cat. Please look at Cary Grove, Mt. Carmel, Prairie Ridge, the service academies that win games despite being completely undermanned along the lines and at the skill positions...
 

pjjp

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Really? You must not like winning. There's a lot of different ways to skin a cat. Please look at Cary Grove, Mt. Carmel, Prairie Ridge, the service academies that win games despite being completely undermanned along the lines and at the skill positions...

There is a certain mindset that exists amongst some football fans that if you don't run the spread, you are an archaic offense and behind the times. Of course, as you point out, programs like CG, PR, MC etc. prove that thinking to be misguided.
 

Oddy

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I think the spread exploits the toughest thing to play in HS football, cornerback. Plus cb's tend to be shorter than receivers. JMO of course.
 

jwarigaku

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"Mt. Carmel undermanned along the lines and at the skill positions"...WTF!

Really? You must not like winning. There's a lot of different ways to skin a cat. Please look at Cary Grove, Mt. Carmel, Prairie Ridge, the service academies that win games despite being completely undermanned along the lines and at the skill positions...
 

Dino brown

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Really? You must not like winning. There's a lot of different ways to skin a cat. Please look at Cary Grove, Mt. Carmel, Prairie Ridge, the service academies that win games despite being completely undermanned along the lines and at the skill positions...
Nobody said anything about wining I just hate that crappy Triple option and I don't know why any kid that plays any skill position would like to play in that crap.nobody is denying that is effective and successful in some programs,but IMO it's a crappy offense period.
 

illini14

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"Mt. Carmel undermanned along the lines and at the skill positions"...WTF!
I should have clarified. I meant Navy, Army, Air Force, the service academies with guys playing at 250-260 against 290-300 pound D1 lineman...

Not Mt. Carmel or Cary-Grove....There isn't a lack of talent with those programs.
 

JCHILLTOPPERS

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There is a certain mindset that exists amongst some football fans that if you don't run the spread, you are an archaic offense and behind the times. Of course, as you point out, programs like CG, PR, MC etc. prove that thinking to be misguided.
And we are all forgetting lz.